Yeson voice feminization surgery 2.0

[maquillage]

They only quoted me in US$. You can email english@yesonvc.net and ask for a quote in ₩.

Thanks iKate! Will do.

Btw, I was mostly referring to your voice clip when I said I was impressed! It's simply a lovely woman's voice. Thanks for sharing it and also for all the information you've posted in the earlier threads (I went really far back!). I've been curious and interested in this procedure ever since I heard of it.

[anjaq]

The price is calculated in US$ - the price in Won is calculated by them from the price in USD with the exchange rate to Won, so it makes little sense, they do charge in USD and not in Won, so changing your currency into won and then they change it to USD is nonsense. I did that, but they basically transferred the Won I wired them to USD and then calculated how much I paid too much by that and gave it to me as a refund for the Botox treatment...

[iKate]

Thanks iKate! Will do.

Btw, I was mostly referring to your voice clip when I said I was impressed! It's simply a lovely woman's voice. Thanks for sharing it and also for all the information you've posted in the earlier threads (I went really far back!). I've been curious and interested in this procedure ever since I heard of it.

Thanks! Hope you're successful in finding your voice.

[iKate]

The price is calculated in US$ - the price in Won is calculated by them from the price in USD with the exchange rate to Won, so it makes little sense, they do charge in USD and not in Won, so changing your currency into won and then they change it to USD is nonsense. I did that, but they basically transferred the Won I wired them to USD and then calculated how much I paid too much by that and gave it to me as a refund for the Botox treatment...

That is true because they have a currency exchange sign at the front desk listing today's exchange rates.

[anjaq]

Yeah I believe they just "think" in USD a lot in Korea. Of course it would be interesting to know what price they charge for this procedure fpr Koreans in Won - if they also apply the "international price" or if they have a lower price for non-foreigners. Maybe they even have some sort of NHS system there that pays part of it if needed? Who knows.

For me it's about time for a 10 month update. It seems I am getting more relaxed in my voice. I still sometimes involuntarily push my voice too much and then it gets strained - or on other times I drop into the old phonation pattern, which then is too low and sounds not that great because also at that pitch it is more broken. But I think I begin to settle into a comfortable way of speaking - they key point for me is to relax, let go, relax, unlearn bad habits and relax
Anyways - voice samples:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UuSCwa7zFz
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Op3tFiQtdI
(for some reasons my computer seems to have had some issues, so there are some weird sound artefacts in the recordings - so no, I did not get a faulty digital voice implant that creates them when I speak - lol)

[jollyjoy]

Sounds great but the volume seems a bit low so it sounds a slightly breathy to me. Are you able to talk loudly in noisy settings after your surgery? That's my current problem, speaking with enough volume in a loud restaurant for example so people can actually hear me.

Yeah I believe they just "think" in USD a lot in Korea. Of course it would be interesting to know what price they charge for this procedure fpr Koreans in Won - if they also apply the "international price" or if they have a lower price for non-foreigners. Maybe they even have some sort of NHS system there that pays part of it if needed? Who knows.

For me it's about time for a 10 month update. It seems I am getting more relaxed in my voice. I still sometimes involuntarily push my voice too much and then it gets strained - or on other times I drop into the old phonation pattern, which then is too low and sounds not that great because also at that pitch it is more broken. But I think I begin to settle into a comfortable way of speaking - they key point for me is to relax, let go, relax, unlearn bad habits and relax
Anyways - voice samples:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UuSCwa7zFz
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Op3tFiQtdI
(for some reasons my computer seems to have had some issues, so there are some weird sound artefacts in the recordings - so no, I did not get a faulty digital voice implant that creates them when I speak - lol)

[anjaq]

To be honest, these are some of the issues i have not yet really solved for me. Breathiness/Hoarseness that I cannot really get rid of completely - and loudness. Apparently others did not always have this or it went away before the 9 month mark, but it seems for some it was not yet over with aven after the 12 month mark.
I was at a event today and had some issues speaking up enough to be understood by the others at the table. People also keep telling me I sound hoarse and as if I have a cold. So those issues have been with me since the surgery and I am not really sure what I am possibly doing wrong to not get rid of them. Dr Kim told me to take more Clonazepam to fight the hoarseness, but I do not have it now and I am not sure it helps anything in that respect - I was perceived to be hoarse when I had the pills as well...

I was told by others that it can take more than the 12 months to get volume back - some improvment was still noticed after 2 years... so maybe I will get some of that back just by healing more... same with the hoarseness, hopefully...?

But maybe it is more an issue of me not using my voice properly... I know that I still have the tendency to push the pitch up a little and that causes some problems at times... I probably am doing other things in a bad way, too. But sadly there are no really good instructions on how to find your post OP voice

[Dena]

The voice samples sound good. Feminine pitch and inflection. The breathiness softens the voice but it's not overdoing it so I think if you are comfortable with it, you have a winner.

[iKate]

I think you sound good Anja. I can understand the frustration with not sounding as good as you'd like to (sometimes I'm a bit disappointed in my voice) but I would never mistake you for a guy.

[anjaq]

Thanks - No, I do not sound like a guy, this is really in the past for sure. My issues are the remaining hoarseness and low volume (which was what jollyjoy also mentioned), that I still need to work on or maybe can hope for some more healing process...
So clearly the surgery helped me a ton. My voice is definitely female now and I seem to really have to force it in order to sound male in any ways - not sure how well this works at all. The hoarseness and lower volume are sort of side effects that are to be expected, I guess - for some they resolved within a couple of weeks, for others they stayed much longer... I guess regarding the volume, a lot is training - I rarely use the voice at a high volume, so I am not training this a lot. I guess I really should take singing lessons and thereby improve my volume
Of course both are a bit connected - if the voice is hoarse or breathy a lot of air is lost and the volume is lost as well.

[iKate]

The price is calculated in US$ - the price in Won is calculated by them from the price in USD with the exchange rate to Won, so it makes little sense, they do charge in USD and not in Won, so changing your currency into won and then they change it to USD is nonsense. I did that, but they basically transferred the Won I wired them to USD and then calculated how much I paid too much by that and gave it to me as a refund for the Botox treatment...

I did the wire in US$ because it's easier with the credit union (fee is less than a commercial bank too). They did refund me $15 though which also went to botox. I guess that had to do with fluctuating exchange rate.

[jollyjoy]

Anjaq, I hope with time, you will see the improvements that you want. Your voice does sound female so that's the most important thing. I'm hoping in a couple of months, my voice will sound less hoarse. I know I need to be patient about this, so even if it takes longer, I'm fine with it. So far I spoke with 2 friends, one said the voice sounds a bit strained as if I have talked for an extended period of time. The other friend said the voice sounded very good and feminine and didn't even mention anything about the hoarseness. I'll be meeting some more friends next week and I'm eager to hear what they think.

Thanks - No, I do not sound like a guy, this is really in the past for sure. My issues are the remaining hoarseness and low volume (which was what jollyjoy also mentioned), that I still need to work on or maybe can hope for some more healing process...
So clearly the surgery helped me a ton. My voice is definitely female now and I seem to really have to force it in order to sound male in any ways - not sure how well this works at all. The hoarseness and lower volume are sort of side effects that are to be expected, I guess - for some they resolved within a couple of weeks, for others they stayed much longer... I guess regarding the volume, a lot is training - I rarely use the voice at a high volume, so I am not training this a lot. I guess I really should take singing lessons and thereby improve my volume
Of course both are a bit connected - if the voice is hoarse or breathy a lot of air is lost and the volume is lost as well.

[anjaq]

Anjaq, I hope with time, you will see the improvements that you want. Your voice does sound female so that's the most important thing. I'm hoping in a couple of months, my voice will sound less hoarse. I know I need to be patient about this, so even if it takes longer, I'm fine with it.

Yes, the most important thing of it worked Thats really so great. I especially love the uncontrolled voice parts - like suddenly saying "hello" to someone, or moaning or squeaking - lol - they are changed totally. For the hoarseness and volume I guess you are right - one needs to be patient...

[kitten_lover]

Yes, the most important thing of it worked Thats really so great. I especially love the uncontrolled voice parts - like suddenly saying "hello" to someone, or moaning or squeaking - lol - they are changed totally. For the hoarseness and volume I guess you are right - one needs to be patient...

How long ago did you have your done?

I have mine 5 weeks ago

[Dana88]

Hey guys! So, yesterday my speech pathologist recorded me doing the Rainbow Passage. Then she opened up the session of the very first time I recorded the Rainbow Passage at my first appointment with her :-). I was floored by the difference. I guess when things happen incrementally, you don't really notice them. So I wanted to post a little vocaroo timeline! 

This was my pre-op Rainbow Passage that I sent to Yeson before going:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1S2McOd5lA2

This was my very first post the day I could start speaking again which was the opening page of my favorite book "The Pillars of the Earth":
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1mTgXYD1QQM

Then this was my first Rainbow passage recording that I did only a week later:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RFvkGn4VV8

And then this was today!:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1huBLC6J2ls

And a bonus one, this is me just singing a few lines from Adele's "Sweetest Devotion." It's just raw audio with a little bit of reverb. I did this today too:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1pPmR8C3je0

These days my Fundamental Frequency is sitting pretty consistently around 245 hz, which is a 103 hz increase from my preop voice. I still notice changes everyday. Gaining more clarity and resonance, but the fundamental frequency has seemed preeeettttty settled for a while.

That said, I had been sitting more around 237ish, and in the last few weeks my mom told me my voice started sounding higher. And it had raised to 245ish which seems to be where it sits consistently now. That said, I'm now just over 5 months post-op, so I'm still not even half way to "final result." But needless to say, I'm already thrilled :-).

I have my SRS with Dr. Suporn in just over 9 weeks, and since my layover was going to be in Seoul anyway, I'm staying in Seoul for 5 days before heading to Bangkok and then Chonburi and doing a postop checkup with Dr. Kim.

Anyway, that's all for now!

[kwala]

Thanks for the update, Dana.  Sounding soooo good!  And up to D5 on that Adele sample?  Amazed!  You must be so thrilled.  I hope I sound half that good when this is all said and done.

[Dana88]

Thanks for the update, Dana.  Sounding soooo good!  And up to D5 on that Adele sample?  Amazed!  You must be so thrilled.  I hope I sound half that good when this is all said and done.

Thanks! And yup :-). And I can sustain that D with vibrato on it too!


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[iKate]

How much does Dr Kim charge for the post op checkups? I may be headed to Japan early next year and do a stop over in Seoul.

[Dana88]

How much does Dr Kim charge for the post op checkups? I may be headed to Japan early next year and do a stop over in Seoul.

Free within one year of the surgery ;-). It's in the initial info email that Jessie sends.


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[iKate]

Free within one year of the surgery ;-). It's in the initial info email that Jessie sends.


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Oh right lol.

My brother is changing station to Japan and I might go visit him before the 1 year is up. I get good deals to NRT via ICN.