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HRT and changes after the 3rd year

Started by galaxy, August 03, 2015, 07:22:16 PM

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galaxy

Hello,

ive a question and please you to be honest. It make no sense to have wrong hope ...
I think most "change" will come since the first 2-3 years. So as i said, ive much changes in that time. Maybe it takes longer, i dont know, nobody knows.

So whats your experience: Will changes hold on after 3 years of HRT or do it have a more subtile character?

Thanks Galaxy
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JLT1

Hi!

They seem to be more subtle although the breasts just keep changing.  Personality seems to settle down.

Hugs

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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stephaniec

there's a girl in my neighborhood that I've seen for the past 20 years. She started transitioning when I moved into the neighborhood 20 years ago. Her changes have be quite small incrementally , but she continues to change after 20 years. her face is getting more soft and feminine on a continuous bases .
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JLT1

Quote from: stephaniec on August 03, 2015, 07:34:43 PM
there's a girl in my neighborhood that I've seen for the past 20 years. She started transitioning when I moved into the neighborhood 20 years ago. Her changes have be quite small incrementally , but she continues to change after 20 years. her face is getting more soft and feminine on a continuous bases .

And so is yours......

Hugs

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Violet Bloom

Quote from: stephaniec on August 03, 2015, 07:34:43 PM
there's a girl in my neighborhood that I've seen for the past 20 years. She started transitioning when I moved into the neighborhood 20 years ago. Her changes have be quite small incrementally , but she continues to change after 20 years. her face is getting more soft and feminine on a continuous bases .

  Wow - 20 years?!?  It would be awesome to know I had a shot at on-going improvements well into my 50's!  Maybe I don't, but it would be pretty cool.

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Jenna Marie

I'm sure it varies from person to person, but I'm still seeing changes at 5+ years. They are, however, much more subtle, which  makes sense; all about fat redistribution now, so mostly very gradual shifts towards more female curves.
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Joi

Would it be correct to presume that if the changes continue as long as we are on hormones and andro blockers that it would be foolish to spend a lot of $$'s on lipo type fat redistribution surgeries.  As I read it,  one need to have patience and the curves will come albeit slowly.


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KristinaM

I've heard that breast development in cis-girls continues to happen over the course of about 10 years.
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kittenpower

at 3 years, I think you have seen most of the feminization that you will have; in the future you will notice only subtle changes. So, waiting five more years to see if you get the curves you want doesn't make sense if you have the money for fat transfer, because that could very well be five wasted years.
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Angieisalone

Depends on your genetic makeup.
I got no changes except pointy boobs, but that's life.
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Rejennyrated

Quote from: KristinaM on August 04, 2015, 08:21:59 AM
I've heard that breast development in cis-girls continues to happen over the course of about 10 years.
It did for me too... I did transition young, but I don't think that really makes much difference. I went on developing for at LEAST ten years - matter of fact I often wonder where this "only two to three years" myth comes from, because it is a complete myth.
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Carrie Liz

I have a couple of trans friends who are in their mid-30s who started hormones back around the year 2008ish, and they both say that they're still seeing improvements even 4+ years after starting hormones... namely in the form of their fat distribution looking more and more womanly with each passing year.

Speaking realistically here, the way that fat redistribution works is not that fat is stored in different places as you gain and lose weight... it happens when fat cells die and are replaced, which happens at a rate of about 10% per year. When a fat cell dies, hormones play a part in deciding where a new fat cell will be born, so slowly fat repositions itself to more feminine areas. So it takes a LONG time for all of the fat cells in the body to die and replace themselves in gender-appropriate areas. It also depends on age and health, since younger healthier bodies tend to be better at repairing themselves than older or less healthy bodies.

To the person who said that lipo transfer is unnecessary, though... here's the thing. Cis women still have a biological advantage since at the time they're going through puberty, their bodies are still growing. So new fat cells are being born not only to replace dying ones, but also because the body is still adding fat cells as it grows to its adult height and weight. We're usually already at our adult height and weight when starting hormones, so we still have a bit of a disadvantage there. Also, even though our fat cells do eventually come very close to cis women in terms of where the fat is stored after many years, we will still inevitably have a slight disadvantage in bone structure, which makes our feminine fat stand out a bit less. Boobs look smaller on a bigger frame, even if ours are technically the same volume, and hips and butt stand out less when you have a narrower pelvis and wider upper body. So yes, our fat distribution is, for all practical purposes, female in the same way that a cis woman's is female. It just might take a little longer and not look quite as traditionally-feminine though, even though it's the same fat in the same area.
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stephaniec

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Joi

Thanks Carrie Liz!
Your description of how the fat thing works was very thorough and enlightening.  As I am in my late 60's, I may not experience much.  There's always hope though.


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galaxy

Quote from: Carrie Liz on August 05, 2015, 12:34:05 AM
Speaking realistically here, the way that fat redistribution works is not that fat is stored in different places as you gain and lose weight... it happens when fat cells die and are replaced, which happens at a rate of about 10% per year. When a fat cell dies, hormones play a part in deciding where a new fat cell will be born, so slowly fat repositions itself to more feminine areas. So it takes a LONG time for all of the fat cells in the body to die and replace themselves in gender-appropriate areas. It also depends on age and health, since younger healthier bodies tend to be better at repairing themselves than older or less healthy bodies.

I mean i had this theory too but is it a theory only or reality?
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