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Federal judge jails Rowan County Clerk Davis for refusing to issue marriage lic

Started by iKate, September 03, 2015, 12:27:18 PM

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RaptorChops

I agree if Cheney transitioned that would be her!! haha

AND it Looks like her buddies got her out. If you have a federal job then you need to follow federal laws regardless of your beliefs. Now, this goes to show other people that have these types of jobs that they can go ahead and discriminate all they want and just get a slap on the wrist. You know, if I discriminated against people at my job I'd be out of one. What ever happened to separation of church and state??
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stephaniec

I don't know too many people that can tell their boss to go screw it
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stephaniec

sorry, had to share , got this from Facebook
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Beth Andrea


Quote from: EmmaMcAllister on September 03, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
I know this won't be a popular opinion, but I can't help but admire Kim Davis just a little bit. I don't support Davis' beliefs, but I respect her commitment to them. When a law goes against my values, I willfully break it, so I can't reasonably judge Davis by a different standard. However, for the sake of all interested parties, I wish she had chosen to exercise her dissent by resigning her post.

I'm all for standing for what one believes in. I don't think that's the major issue here...its that she wants to stay in a position of authority while refusing to perform duties related to that position.

Out in the street or in a church, one can believe whatever they want, and most people won't complain and protest.


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EmmaMcAllister

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 08, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
I'm all for standing for what one believes in. I don't think that's the major issue here...its that she wants to stay in a position of authority while refusing to perform duties related to that position.

Out in the street or in a church, one can believe whatever they want, and most people won't complain and protest.

I do wish she had chosen to resign, but I can understand why she didn't. Imagine the situation in reverse. It's 2025, and a Republican stacked Supreme Court overturns Obergefell vs Hodges, arguing judicial overreach. Many states, including Kentucky, reintroduce legislation limiting marriage to one man and one woman. The elected clerk of Rowan County, a supporter of same sex marriage, continues to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. They choose to stay in their elected position to fight for what they believe is right.

Would you feel more positively about this hypothetical clerk than you do about Kim Davis? If so, it is not Davis' unwillingness to apply the law, nor her decision to stay in her post, that is the issue. Rather, it seems to be a matter of what is right. Here, I believe it important to remember that Kim Davis believes that she is doing what is right. Understanding that, I can disagree with Davis, but I can't condemn her.
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Sigyn

Quote from: EmmaMcAllister on September 08, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
I do wish she had chosen to resign, but I can understand why she didn't. Imagine the situation in reverse. It's 2025, and a Republican stacked Supreme Court overturns Obergefell vs Hodges, arguing judicial overreach. Many states, including Kentucky, reintroduce legislation limiting marriage to one man and one woman. The elected clerk of Rowan County, a supporter of same sex marriage, continues to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. They choose to stay in their elected position to fight for what they believe is right.

Would you feel more positively about this hypothetical clerk than you do about Kim Davis? If so, it is not Davis' unwillingness to apply the law, nor her decision to stay in her post, that is the issue. Rather, it seems to be a matter of what is right. Here, I believe it important to remember that Kim Davis believes that she is doing what is right. Understandi?ng that, I can disagree with Davis, but I can't condemn her.

or maybe when Gavin Newsome continued to issue licenses despite an order from the California Supreme Court to cease and decist? Or even after Prop 8 passed?

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cindianna_jones

The "table turned" argument is a difficult one to navigate. I think that we all agree that Equal Rights IS the correct thing to do. If I were asked to discriminate against anyone for any reason because a new law were passed, I would protest and resign, regardless of my beliefs. I see so many of the atrocities committed in the name of just following beliefs or orders and I know in my heart I could not condone or accept the responsibility to do something so morally wrong.

Cindi
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