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Started by KatelynBG, September 12, 2015, 09:51:00 AM

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KatelynBG

Thank you everyone. I truly appreciate it. It's comforting knowing that so many people are rooting for my happiness. Also, KristinaM congrats on the new baby! Omg so exciting. I know heads won't really be clear but at least my wife will be back on her Meds at that point. It's important for her.

I've been dealing with my own issues outside of my transness and I reached out to family for support. My marriage is crumbling and that's before any of the transness gets thrown in. I'm realizing I've been emotionally abused for years by my wife in subtle ways and all these people I've talked to about were like, "Yeah we knew already." It's been a really hard week.

I'm essentially estranged from my brother already and I reached out to him to say I'm in trouble and need his support but I wasn't ready to talk about my issues (meaning marriage problems) and he searched my twitter follows and comments for clues. Well I follow a few trans people on Twitter like Jenny Boylan and Avery Edison (comedian) and he started jumping to conclusions. That was kind of scary but I straightened him out for now but it has me stressing about that coming out in the future.
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ChiGirl

Katelyn, I'm sorry to hear about your marriage falling apart.  I know that feeling.  The abuse part sounds a lot like my marriage. 

It's good you're reaching out to people.  Do you think your brother would understand if you told him?  Maybe start telling him about the marriage issues first? 

I know it's hard to be there for someone you feel responsible for, but you feel doesn't respect your feelings.  Good luck and keep us up to date.  Hugs!

Charlotte

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KatelynBG

Not a good day today. I tried to bring up other concerns with my wife today and she was completely dismissive and minimizing. I've been talking about going back to grad school and she's just completely opposed to it. I showed her how I could do it and still afford it and she said it wouldn't work. I told her I'm feeling lost and hopeless and she blamed me for bringing up a lot of crap in the last year (that comment referenced my gender issues, it's her code phrase). I'm in a very bad place at the moment with the darkest of thoughts. I don't know what to do anymore. What's the point of it all? I hate this feeling, it has to stop. This is not me.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: KatelynBG on September 17, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
Not a good day today. I tried to bring up other concerns with my wife today and she was completely dismissive and minimizing. I've been talking about going back to grad school and she's just completely opposed to it. I showed her how I could do it and still afford it and she said it wouldn't work. I told her I'm feeling lost and hopeless and she blamed me for bringing up a lot of crap in the last year (that comment referenced my gender issues, it's her code phrase). I'm in a very bad place at the moment with the darkest of thoughts. I don't know what to do anymore. What's the point of it all? I hate this feeling, it has to stop. This is not me.

Hugs, Katelyn. Sounds like a tough place to be. A question to ask yourself: How bad would it have to be before you conclude that submitting your life plans to your wife for approval would no longer be best for everyone involved?
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KatelynBG

Ouch. But the statement is true. The time is close, but I'm holding out stubbornly. The reality is I'd be done already if it weren't for the pregnancy and the fact that if I wasn't handling everything with my 5 yr old daughter, a stranger would be. I get it, I really do. But doing what you all suggest is just so scary, and I doubt my own ability to run my own life because someone else has been running my life for as long as I've been alive. This is what has led to my dark place.
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JoanneB

What's the point of it all?
Why do I bother?
I do all this work and it just seems things are getting worse.
I wish I was never born. I was a mistake to start with and still am.

I know all them, and then some, all too well. A lot more then I'd like to be these past few weeks. What keeps me going. What gives me hope. What sustains me, is seeing Joanne in the mirror. I know things are really really bad when I see "the sad old man".

It is all too easy to blame ourselves for the ills in our relationships. It is extremely difficult for us to see through the fog of shame and guilt to perhaps see that our partner is the one being irrational or unreasonable or .....

I wish I had answers. Or really, the answer you want to hear. Marriage is a partnership. Marriage is sharing eachothers lives. Marriage involves compromising without giving your soul away.
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KatelynBG

Fantastic session with my therapist today. I wish it didn't have to end. We talked through a lot. She explained why she thought I needed to wait until after our child's birth to tell my wife I plan to transition. I like her reasoning and without getting into it, it's to protect me in a roundabout way. We talked about my plans for the conversation and what I needed to get I to place first.

1) A credit card only in my name. Easy enough, I have excellent credit and work at a bank.
2) Have a conversation with a family lawyer with experience or understanding of trans impacts on divorces.

She suggested I seek advice here for other things to consider.
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Dena

I am glad you received an explanation and a starting point. One though comes to mind is make sure none of this paper work is where your wife might discover it. One though would be a credit card bill received through the mail. Stuff might disappear after she talks to her lawyer.
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KatelynBG

I thought about that too. A PO Box would solve that probably.
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Rachel

Hi, sorry to read about your marriage and delayed transition issues.

If you move out eventually then you will need the ability to secure a place to live. keep in mind the cost of child support when you look for a place to live.

As far as transition you can do laser and then electrolysis as well as schedule the HRT appointment and get the blood test to start HRT when you feel it is the best time.
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JoanneB

I was very young when I first saw Bridge on the River Kwai. That was the first and very few times I heard "Plan for the worse and hope for the Best" outside of my wife. It really hit me back then. As a kid, you usually do the opposite, only plan for the best and hope nothing bad happens.

Perhaps that is why I am the way I am today. But expecting the worse has given me a good career. Eventually other aspects of my work ethic made their way into my personal life, especially the one about always having a Plan B if not a C or a D.

To put it another way, be flexible while always keeping the end goal in mind. As they say in sailing circles, it is not about the destination, it is about the voyage
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KatelynBG

Had a lot of job pressure today and kind of unloaded my stress to my wife. We both agree the marriage is not good, especially the last 2 months. She cried, I cried. Then she goes, "What will make you happy right now?" I said "I don't know." She kept repeating it over and over again. I know what she wanted me to say, I know what I wanted to say and I didn't say it.
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Dena

You have to respond "you already know" or "I have kept no secrets from you" if you can't say it to her face.
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JoanneB

Quote from: Dena on September 25, 2015, 12:08:19 AM
You have to respond "you already know" or "I have kept no secrets from you" if you can't say it to her face.
But do you REALLY know what will make you happy? What will you gain in the long run vs what you know absolutely for sure you'll loose?

I know I cannot answer that question with absolute certainty. Do I? Don't I? How much? How Far? My wife?, My career? My financial stability? Vs exactly what? The opportunity to perhaps maybe feel more genuine? But if I loose so much that means so much to me, how can I feel more genuine loosing so much that is a part of me?

I do a lot of crying also  :(
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KatelynBG

Geez Joanne, get out of my brain already. You nailed it for me. Though I have reached the conclusion that I cannot live much longer without transitioning.
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Qrachel

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Is it possible that the most loving thing you could do now is to be honest, open and transparent while making sure to take care of yourself too?  For sure, this is not a suggestion in anyway  to permit any kind of abuse.

Rachel
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"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow."
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Lady Smith

It's never going to be easy, - I transitioned when both my children were only small and I only did so because I couldn't bear living a lie anymore.  Believe me I tried very hard to keep it all going, but it essentially came down to be me or be dead and I knew in my heart I wasn't going to choose death not when I was a parent to two small children.
My wife had a severe mental illness which was barely controlled at the time because she wouldn't take her meds so it was never going to be a good time to come out.  Caring for my children when my wife was ill (raving mad - forgive me for saying so, but it was the truth), was simply wonderful and I think that was one of the things that helped to bring my true self to the surface.  This was over twenty four years ago now and at the time nobody in my country really knew anything about gender dysphoria so it all got to a crisis stage and turned into a great unholy mess as you would expect.
In light of my experience my advice is as others have said is to plan for the worst and hope for the best.  Facial hair was a major source of dysphoria for me and if it is for you too then you can begin right now to do something about that.  Low dose HRT is likely to help as well as it will overcome some of the effects of T so you will feel more yourself.  Take legal advice and plan what you want to happen to any property you have in common with your wife.  In my case I made up my mind that I wasn't going to take out my share of the house and property because I wasn't going to make my children homeless, but I warn you that option is only for those who want to play the transition game on the difficult setting because while my now adult children love me very much and have always been my best friends the first two years of my transition were a living hell.  At the time my lawyer said I was nuts by the way, but all these years later I know I did the right thing.  Later on my 'share' paid for my children's education which was absolutely fine by me when my 'ex' made the suggestion.

Most importantly remember that when you do come out everybody is going to have an opinion on it.  I was constantly told, 'How could you do this when you've got kids,' by angry folk who looked like they wanted to hit me.  I lost friends, my two brothers still won't have anything to do with me and I shed bucket loads of tears, BUT despite all that I still remain 100% certain that I did the right thing.  At the end of the day the only person you can be is yourself.
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JoanneB

Quote from: KatelynBG on September 25, 2015, 02:28:24 PM
Geez Joanne, get out of my brain already. You nailed it for me. Though I have reached the conclusion that I cannot live much longer without transitioning.
I have my paperwork filled out but have not yet posted my application to the "Transition or Die" club. Pretty much everyone of my support group members were also members. I think I am the only holdout today. I am still able to otherwise manage my dysphoria.... most days.

It seems to me, that if you aren't, you are soon to be a dues paying member. Your wife may become more supportive when you totally, brutally honestly, lay things out to her as to how it is. As much as my wife would rather not deal with "bumps on my chest", it still beats finding me swinging on the end of a rope from a rafter. And just perhaps as you try doing things for yourself, for Katelyn, you will find joy.
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KatelynBG

Having a dark day today. Frustration, and a feeling of being stuck are battling hopelessness to launch me into depression today. Not sure how to break free today...

-Katelyn
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suzifrommd

Quote from: KatelynBG on October 07, 2015, 08:38:27 AM
Having a dark day today. Frustration, and a feeling of being stuck are battling hopelessness to launch me into depression today. Not sure how to break free today...

-Katelyn

Sometimes it helps me to focus on the joy I bring other people.

Hugs, Katelyn. Don't give into depression. It's an illusion, fooling you into thinking the world is hopeless. I hope you find a way to look past the facade.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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