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Dr. Phil talks to a father of a Mtf child

Started by CaptFido87, September 16, 2015, 08:23:08 PM

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CaptFido87

So I was watching TV around lunch time today and they showed part of dr. Phil's show. The topic in question was about how a father felt of his son becoming a woman. He was basically in tears for the whole thing from what I saw. He said he blames himself for his son being transgender and that he failed as a father. It honestly was a little hard to watch.

Heres my thoughts on it. Obviously we all have reasons on this site as to why we are transgender. Whether you knew naturally from birth or through events taking place in your life. Wouldn't be on here probably lol. I pose the question to you all if you think the father should blame himself. I don't really know the premise of the episode as I switched channels right after it.

I don't think he should be so hard on himself but maybe he in some way directly caused it. Maybe he forced his son to be so masculine and naive that it could have been what made the child to think this way. Or maybe the father never was there as much as he should have been for his son that caused the son to feel neglected and not want to be a male like his father. I'm just curious to hear what you folks think.

Before I sign off, I don't blame my parents for me wanting to be transgender, but they raised me in a way where it could have had an effect on me. I was raised hardly having to work hard and got to become very lazy. My pain tolerance is low and hardly masculine. So when I attempted to play sports, I would get hurt easily and didn't like it.  I can relate to woman more now as they are typically less likely to partake in such activities. This to me could be seen as a partial blame to my parents for not raising me to be more manly. So you never know. The blame game is tough to play.
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Claraaa

I don't agree with your premise that parents or anyone else can make someone trans.   I think people and events can make it harder or easier to discover the truth.   It seems to me that thinking like that is what has led people to believe that trans-ness can be fixed. 

Sorry if I am misunderstanding you and jumping on my soapbox.

Clara
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suzifrommd

Oh, heavens no. Being trans is wired into our brains from before we are born. It's no one's fault. That poor man. He has been blessed by heaven with a perfectly wonderful daughter and he can't appreciate her.
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cindianna_jones

I would say "No." The kid may be screwed up in all sorts of ways, more numerous to count, from the father's dealings with the child. But GD? I don't think I've ever seen anyone attribute their feelings and blame them on Mom and Dad. I had a "good Mormon" shrink who blamed it on my Dad not being around enough or bonding with me while I was young. Nope. Dad worked two jobs but I spent quality time with him every week. We enjoyed being together. It was NOT his fault.

In all the postulations and "theories," we still just don't know. I attribute it to entropy and in that assessment, I can not be wrong. ;)

Cindi
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Deborah

I don't think so either.  I also don't think being poor in sports  or unmanly has an effect either.

I knew I was trans before high school.  My parents said I was crazy and gay and all sorts of other things.  So when I went to high school I compensated and beat up the bully that picked on me and became a multi sport jock culminating as the football team capt my senior year.  At the end of all that I was still trans.  It's just I had invented a very good avatar to hide behind. 

I am certain that trans is innate and is not something caused by parenting of any kind.


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stephaniec

I cant blame anyone. I knew at 4 , who the heck am I supposed to blame.
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Dena

I think nearly all of us were transgender at birth but there is an exception. Some intersected children have been surgically altered to be the wrong gender.

The parent should never be blamed for a child being transgender. Most parents do everything they can to encourage the child to grow up as their birth gender. The exception being the exceptional parent who sees the transgender characteristics in their child and gets them the treatment they require early in life.
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stephaniec

Tearful Dad Sees His Transgender Child as a Woman for the First Time

http://news.yahoo.com/tearful-dad-sees-transgender-child-205220038.html

Yahoo News/By Inside Edition

"A father whose son came out as transgender broke down as he opened up about the experience on Dr. Phil - before seeing his child as a woman for the first time."
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Laurette Mohr

 I'm a Des Son so if anyone is to blame for being Transgendered it would be me even though I had nothing to do with it.
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Batmanlovr

I agree with everyone else it's not the parents to blame this is not something anyone is really to blame for, it's just who we are and who we were meant to be, tho I do recall blaming my mom at a very young age well pointing at my junk and saying '' mommy you gave me the wrong parts'' but hey I don't blame her for having a ( cringes ) ''Daughter'' I have no one to blame at all this is who I am, I am a male!
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Paige

I don't blame my parents for me being transgender.  I knew at a very early age.  But, I still hold quite a bit of resentment because of the way they treated me when I showed my feminine side.  They're probably the prime reason why I've never transitioned and it still annoys the hell out of me.

Paige :)
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BunnyBee

I feel like I was born with it, that is what science is leaning toward also. It's hard to parse the emotions of a parent in this situation, there's a lot going on inside their minds and with their emotions.

I didn't watch it, has Dr. Phil evolved at all? He used to be a piece of sh** on trans issues.

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TheMissingM

I highly disagree as well like everyone else, from the get-go I was trans.. my parents 'tried' to make me be masculine but ended up giving up mid way. I also resent them somewhat for how they acted toward my coming out and the fact they couldn't tell their own child was painfully lying.

Anyways, I don't know if this is a factor but my mother told me rather recently that before I was born she was told to expect a baby girl.. Well, I guess it kind of happened.  :angel:
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Batmanlovr

Quote from: TheMissingM on September 16, 2015, 10:49:12 PM

Anyways, I don't know if this is a factor but my mother told me rather recently that before I was born she was told to expect a baby girl.. Well, I guess it kind of happened.  :angel:


This happened to my cousin her whole pregnancy she was told that her son was a girl and was quite shocked that her son came out a boy instead. Sometimes even medical doctors or the people that run those ultrasound things make mistakes. 
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CarlyMcx

Trust me, raising a trans girl to be more manly does not work.  My father and an older male cousin he took in did everything they could to teach me to be manly.  I was taught how to throw and catch a baseball when I was seven, I got jujitsu lessons at ten, and I pushed my little four foot ten inch body to and beyond its limits to prove myself in junior high school P.E. and on the endurance runs in Boy Scouts when we were prepping for the 50 mile hike award.

I slowly learned how to fight back when I got picked on.  I got that from mom, who grew up in Brooklyn.

I topped out at five foot eight and took up bicycle racing in my twenties, and golf in my late thirties.  I learned how to walk like a man, get fitted for a business suit, smoke cigars, tie a necktie, and constantly outmaneuver those manipulative people who thought they perceived some vulnerability in me.

The simple fact is, I have been pretty successful at being a man.  The problem is, a lifetime of fighting has taken its toll on my health.  I started having anxiety and panic attacks around ten years ago, and after a lot of thinking and trying different things I had that magic moment when I pulled on a pair of my wife's shorts at home one day, and it stopped a panic attack dead in its tracks.

Dressing female cured my high blood pressure, and now that I have health insurance set up, I am getting ready to get a referral to a gender therapist.

Bottom line is, when you are a girl in your heart and in your head, no amount of learning to be macho is going to make you a man.  You can learn to put on a pretty good imitation of one, but at best, you are a very good actor portraying a character, and doing that all the time will eventually wear you down and kill you.
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leacobb

What a poor man, he cant blame himself for his transgendered child. I agree with most here. Being trans is not a choose. You are or your not, it is just the way your born. My parents raised me when i way younger the same way as they did my brother, no differences. But he grew up as a male and i well didnt. It is just that simple..

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warlockmaker

Just saw the preview clip and I'm quite disappointed in Dr Phil comment that we concentrate so much on those transitioing but have little regards for the feeling of others. We all have a close family member that have heartbreaking emotional reactions, but if there is love it will overcome. Hopefully the father will pass this mourning period and accept his child who has found happiness being who she has always been. All my closest relatives only wish for my happiness and that's LOVE. I don't want to use words that describe the fathers reaction which I find shameful.
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Dee Marshall

I find it telling that Dr. Phil gave up being a therapist to be a TV personality. Other therapists in similar situations have kept their practice.
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KatelynBG

No, my parents had nothing to do with it. There were only 3 three sport athletes at my high school and I was the only one that didn't play golf in the spring. And I played golf all summer and became a golf pro eventually. My father was a physical ed teacher and I love physical activity. I grew up in a house where the only woman was my mom. My parents were loving and there for me at all times. I'm still transgender and there's nothing anyone could have done about it.
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Traci New

I believe its not the fathers fault or anybody else's its just a natural thing that happened.  I dont have much use for Dr. Phil.
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