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Started by nessa, September 18, 2015, 04:05:23 PM

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Laura_7

Quote from: nessa on September 28, 2015, 03:32:29 PM

Thank you what is bioidentical  progesterone?

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Its like estrogen a hormone.
Quite a few people say it complements estrogen.
In cis females it occurs for about 10 days in larger doses every month.
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nessa

Quote from: Laura_7 on September 28, 2015, 03:41:35 PM
Its like estrogen a hormone.
Quite a few people say it complements estrogen.
In cis females it occurs for about 10 days in larger doses every month.
Where do you get that stuff at?
And its ok to take it with my estradiol ?

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Laura_7

Quote from: nessa on September 28, 2015, 03:44:21 PM
Where do you get that stuff at?
And its ok to take it with my estradiol ?

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You can talk to your doctor or endo about it.
Yes its ok to take it together with estradiol.
Its just another female hormone.
Its not exactly proven but many say it can help with breast growth, and many report help with mood.
Its available as capsules, topical gel or implants.
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nessa

Quote from: Laura_7 on September 28, 2015, 06:46:51 PM
You can talk to your doctor or endo about it.
Yes its ok to take it together with estradiol.
Its just another female hormone.
Its not exactly proven but many say it can help with breast growth, and many report help with mood.
Its available as capsules, topical gel or implants.
Iam just so happy anymore, surprised with whats happening in such a short time.
Now this may sound like a dumb question, but in breast growth what exactly am i looking for like i read stuff of buds? What exactly is that. Lol

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Laura_7

Quote from: nessa on September 28, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Iam just so happy anymore, surprised with whats happening in such a short time.
Now this may sound like a dumb question, but in breast growth what exactly am i looking for like i read stuff of buds? What exactly is that. Lol

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Well its tissue growing under the nipples...
its the slow forming of breasts...
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nessa

Quote from: Laura_7 on September 29, 2015, 10:35:59 AM
Well its tissue growing under the nipples...
its the slow forming of breasts...
My nipples use to be flat with my chest but now they kinda point out a little. Is this what your talking about?

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Laura_7

Quote from: nessa on September 29, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
My nipples use to be flat with my chest but now they kinda point out a little. Is this what your talking about?

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Yes. It starts from under the nipples so take your time... there will be growth  :)
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nessa

Quote from: Laura_7 on September 29, 2015, 05:05:19 PM
Yes. It starts from under the nipples so take your time... there will be growth  :)
Thank you ☺

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nessa

Quote from: nessa on September 29, 2015, 05:45:52 PM
Thank you ☺

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I have been on hrt now for 5 weeks.
I had a hormone level blood test at 4 weeks. And my estrogen level is really high. Is this normal?

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Laura_7

Quote from: nessa on October 13, 2015, 07:22:39 PM
I have been on hrt now for 5 weeks.
I had a hormone level blood test at 4 weeks. And my estrogen level is really high. Is this normal?

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Well could you specify high ?
You may talk about lab results...
its just not possible to talk about exact dosages of intake because of possible misuse, people react differently.
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nessa

Quote from: Laura_7 on October 14, 2015, 02:24:08 AM
Well could you specify high ?
You may talk about lab results...
its just not possible to talk about exact dosages of intake because of possible misuse, people react differently.
827 pg/ml estrogen
74 ng/dl testosterone
For only 4 weeks on hrt i thought that is a bit high?

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Laura_7

Well its possible it comes down a bit over time.
Did you have a pill shortly before the lab test ?
Do you use oral/sublingual intake ?

Testo seems to be ok:
SEX
  ng/dl

  Females  6 - 86
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nessa



Quote from: Laura_7 on October 14, 2015, 03:12:07 AM
Well its possible it comes down a bit over time.
Did you have a pill shortly before the lab test ?
Do you use oral/sublingual intake ?

Testo seems to be ok:
SEX
  ng/dl

  Females  6 - 86

The estrogen level seems ok at 827 ?
I take oral intake. I took it before my test but it wasnt right before it was a while before i had the test done.

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Laura_7

Quote from: nessa on October 14, 2015, 01:01:10 PM

The estrogen level seems ok at 827 ?
I take oral intake. I took it before my test but it wasnt right before it was a while before i had the test done.

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Well if its pg/ml it is high...
if its pmol/l its ok...

here is a graph showing how intake influences levels:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,186946.msg1665088.html#msg1665088

if used sublingual there are spikes for a few hours...
if simply swallowed not... but sublingual is supposed to be less straining on the liver... and lesss causing clotting factors...

one way to avoid spikes a bit can be spreading the daily dose in a few small doses instead of two big ones...
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nessa



Quote from: Laura_7 on October 14, 2015, 01:20:24 PM
Well if its pg/ml it is high...
if its pmol/l its ok...

here is a graph showing how intake influences levels:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,186946.msg1665088.html#msg1665088

if used sublingual there are spikes for a few hours...
if simply swallowed not... but sublingual is supposed to be less straining on the liver... and lesss causing clotting factors...

one way to avoid spikes a bit can be spreading the daily dose in a few small doses instead of two big ones...

Its pgml. I let estrogen pill dissolve under my tongue.
Thank you

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Sharon Anne McC

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Welcome to the world of female, Vanessa.

Yep, ERT can work a number on your emotions.  That's okay.  Enjoy them as a new experience.  This is living.

How's your body temperature doing?

I have been hot-flashing since this past Saturday - no matter that I am inside the air conditioned Library, or grocery store, or elsewhere.  Then when that passes, I go into the dry cold feelings - skin so cold, even at 100 degrees here at my home town.  You go to your office where the men set the AC to freezing while we women must wear sweaters to keep warm.  I commiserated that cold skin with other female co-workers at my former job.  It's that female thing - no guys complain about hot flashes or being cold.  You feel the skin of a woman and it is cold.  Are you there yet?  You will be.

And then there is the connected hyper sense of smell.

I was at jail visitation Saturday.  There is a grim reality to this environment; yet I, ever the one looking to lighten the mood, had to make my remark as I exited that video visiting room.  I good-naturedly commented to the guards something as, 'I smell a submarine sandwich - turkey, chicken, ham, roast beef.  What is it?'  I smelled the aroma of that sandwich.  The guards in the lobby said they smelled nothing.  I went to the guards behind the armour glass and asked about the sandwich as I enrolled for next week's visit.  A guard behind the heavy glass in their sealed room confessed - he was eating a turkey sandwich.  Ha!   Those male guards were oblivious to what was obvious to me.

Your body scent will definitely change.  You will surely notice your own self changing. Others around you - whether they know or not - will notice your new scent - especially other females.  Some might compliment you. Your clothes will hold your new female scent and that is not necessarily a bad thing.

What you eat will taste differently - depending upon your established likes / dislikes that could be good or bad.  Explore those new tastes and smells at the grocery store and spice department.

If you are romantically involved, well, um, your partner will notice all these changes about you - your smell, your taste, um...

Your new, sensitive anatomy can become sore if not protected from abrasive rubbing from your shirt.  If you are presenting as male, you will do well to wear a soft cotton T-shirt or under-shirt to protect your sensitive areas.  Once you present as female, wearing a bra will provide that protection.  Enjoy the tingles and jolts.

My endo's initial prescription to me was all at once in the morning with breakfast.  I did that at my start and was ill much of the time; he allowed me to scatter them equally throughout the day and I felt better.  A few years into ERT I had a different endo and a different prescription - one lump-sum dosage in one pill - and it was back to being ill many mornings.  The difference that second time was that I was now female full-time forever.  My female co-workers recognised what I was experiencing, approached me on their own, and asked about my pregnancy, due date, and whether I was hoping for a boy or a girl.  Hmm?  They did not know my change but I suddenly realised why I was ill - it was 'morning sickness'.  No wonder I had night-time dreams about being pregnant when I was ill; my body told my brain it had 'morning sickness' so my brain thought I was pregnant.  Wow!

If you are on one large-dose pill, request your endo change it to smaller-dose pills and scatter them equally throughout your day to maintain your level.  My generic low-cost prescription dissolves fine under my tongue.

You are at age 31, still young to have many years of enjoyment.  My opinion holds that no one is too old to attain their identity goals.  Certainly, your body has had half its lifetime making bad with the T and now you are trying to make nice with the E to overcome those years.  Yep, those of us who began young have less accumulated T to attain our results.  Changes will take time.  Learn your options; discuss all options with your medical team - different ERT blends, pre-op options, pre-GCS surgery, etc.  Take an active role in your course of treatment.

If all these things are not happening to you yet, well let this be a lesson of what lies ahead.  You will come across them daily such that they will eventually become part of your new you.  Nevertheless, enjoy them as you continue your life as female.  It's a wonderfull experience!

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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JessieA

Hi!

I am now almost halfway through week 4 of HRT. And wow! There is a lot of new things to get used to already.

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on October 14, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
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Enjoy them as a new experience.  This is living.

I have been trying to embrace my new found emotional responses. It seems like I am not having new emotions, so much as having them be much more powerful and vivid. If that makes any sense. :)

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on October 14, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
How's your body temperature doing?

I have been hot-flashing since this past Saturday - no matter that I am inside the air conditioned Library, or grocery store, or elsewhere.  Then when that passes, I go into the dry cold feelings - skin so cold, even at 100 degrees here at my home town.  You go to your office where the men set the AC to freezing while we women must wear sweaters to keep warm.  I commiserated that cold skin with other female co-workers at my former job.  It's that female thing - no guys complain about hot flashes or being cold.  You feel the skin of a woman and it is cold.  Are you there yet?  You will be.

You don't know how happy I was to read this. I thought I was loosing my marbles. The hot flashes are killing me, even with the onset of Wyoming winter. My wife was sure I was trying to freeze her this weekend, only for me to turn around and be under an afghan wearing a fleece.

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on October 14, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
And then there is the connected hyper sense of smell.

I also thought this was my imagination. But just like with my emotions, it feels like my senses are just on overdrive! Everything is more vibrant.

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on October 14, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
What you eat will taste differently - depending upon your established likes / dislikes that could be good or bad.  Explore those new tastes and smells at the grocery store and spice department.

I am loving trying all sorts of foods. I have found many new things that I never used to like are great now. I haven't found anything that I used to like that I hate now, but there are things that I no longer find myself drawn to.

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on October 14, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
Your new, sensitive anatomy can become sore if not protected from abrasive rubbing from your shirt.  If you are presenting as male, you will do well to wear a soft cotton T-shirt or under-shirt to protect your sensitive areas.  Once you present as female, wearing a bra will provide that protection.  Enjoy the tingles and jolts.

I am noticing some, um, discomfort shall we say? My nipples are very sensitive and almost always hard. I have been wearing a bra under my male clothes for awhile now, and boy am I glad to have them now. I would never get anything done. :)

Quote from: Sharon Anne McC on October 14, 2015, 03:12:53 PM

If all these things are not happening to you yet, well let this be a lesson of what lies ahead.  You will come across them daily such that they will eventually become part of your new you.  Nevertheless, enjoy them as you continue your life as female.  It's a wonderfull experience!

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It really is a wonderful experiences so far. I am feeling so happy, and content. It is nice to start to have things be matching up.

Jessie






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Jessika

I got this small area where my hips should be forming a fatty lump (2 inches wide, maybe 1/4 inch thick). Looks like Cellulite(sp?)
Is that my Hips forming maybe?
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