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Started by transjoe, October 02, 2015, 02:29:14 AM

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transjoe

Hi alltogether,

although I already have made some posts I thought I might as well give a short introduction.

I am a 42 year old Western Europe Male and here is my story so far:

Some ten years ago I have been experimenting and taken Estrogen for 2 months. I liked the feeling of the nipples, but as I had fear to end up as a man with tits (at that time looking for a job and girlfriend) I stopped. What I had experienced was nipple tenderness and it was harder to achieve an erection and orgasm.
After I stopped I met my now wife and everything went back to normal, I just did not seem to have the same high desire as before, but nothing to worry.

Three years later for other medical reasons I was pumped full of the hormone prostaglandin for a few weeks – whereby I do not know if this has any relevance with the further development.
In the following years I noticed a gradual decrease in libido, which I did not mind, as my wife was two times pregnant in this period and sex was not in her mind anyway that much.
Now four years ago in the course of a routine check they also did hormone state and they found my testosterone was very low (1,7 where the normal male range would be 2.41-8.30 and SHBG 17.2 (normal 16-76)). Though the endocrinolist told me I might see a urologist she saw no further need for action on her side.

To be honest I did not see a urologist till now. I told my wife the outcome of the check and that I have low testosterone – so she knows and she knows that this is why I have a low sex drive. We once discussed if I should go to see an urologist, I told her I had fear of prostate complications as my father had prostate cancer if they would prescribe testosterone and she did not push me anymore in this direction.

We do not have that much sex nowadays and she plays with my nipples, which are very sensitive. My erections are weak and she has to be on top so my penis does stay in – I can come though if she plays with my nipples and I play with her clitoris to satisfy her needs. It however was enough to get her pregnant once again.

I am quite content with the situation sexually as I am rather calm, have no big need and we do not argue and fight that much anymore as we did when I supposedly had more testosterone. Fertility is no issue for me as we already have two children.

However – although due to having not much time – I did not care and read a lot about the matter.
Over the time I have gained a lot of weight (15-20 kg) especially in the belly area, had problems sleeping, lot of sweat which seem to be symptoms of low testosterone.

I now have done a lot of reading – also here in the forum – and I now think, that doing nothing might not be the best, as all these symptoms are not nice to have and there is a risk of Osteoporose.

So what should I do now?
If I go and see an urologist he might prescribe testosterone. However I would not like to have that sexual need any more to ->-bleeped-<- any women around (it's also cheaper as my hunting colleagues pay for prostitutes on hunting excursions while I go to sleep ;-) )

I now actually did a saliva hormone T test out of couriosity and it came back with Testosterone 29 pg/ml where the range for a male my age would be 30 - 98 according to the lab - so again - after the period from the last test - I got a very low T Level tested! As I am not taking any anti-androgens or any hormones or medications else at the Moment, this seems to be a hypogonadism.
I don't know how I fit in here as I do not to be really trans and have no real intention to transition, however I hope this is a rather open minded community.

Thanks for your thoughts and input
Joe
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Jera

It's a pleasure to meet you!

You're as welcome here as anybody else. There's no one thing any of us can say about what any trans* person even is, much less whether or not somebody else is "really trans." That's not anybody's business but your own.

You don't have to transition, either, to be welcomed here. I am not transitioning (although I am trans), and nobody has given me grief about it.

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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. Pretty much anybody is welcome here including people who are CIS. A doctor really needs to do a full workup on you and advise you on this. At 42 you could be suffering from a natural drop in hormone productions. While hormones help prevent bone problems, Calcium, vitamin D and load bearing exercises slide help protect the bones. Hormones are very important when you are young and building bones but not as much when you are older. The doctor shouldn't give you T unless you desire it and may be willing to substitute estrogen if it's really something you want. As for the weight gain, again, that can be caused by aging or a drop in T. Our body need less food as we get older. When I was young, I could put down two plates of food. Now I eat less than one in order to remain at the same weigh.

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Cindy

Hi Joe and welcome,

I know we keep saying it but it does work. Go and see a good gender therapist. They really can help sort out your thoughts. A therapist doesn't make you do anything, but can help you sort out your thoughts.
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transjoe

Thank you for your replies so far!

I know meanwhile that direct discussion of hormones or medications is not allowed on this board - however I appreciate to get more Information about this subject and I think you Folks have the most experience with these matters.

What makes me "deviant" is that I am quite content with my Situation and low Libido and practically no erections- I only have concerns with osteoporosis and don't like sweating and weight gain. A "normal" man would mostly want to do something to get higher Libido again.

I will however contact an urologist check all my parts and get a full hormone status so I have more detailled Information.

Joe
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katrinaw

Warm welcome to Susan's Joe,

I would suggest that a) you need to see a Gender Therapist and b) when you go see your urologist you should be open about your history and desires. The therapist will help you determining your situation regarding transgender feelings and desire/emotions etc... When you were seeing the Endo had you shared your inner emotions?

But in reality, inside you know what your true callings are, how we hide it for whatever reason does not make it go away, the emotional tides will always return until you cannot hide or deny anymore. As far as loved ones go, always hard, after 40 years of marriage I am still struggling with opening up and of course more and more my emotion's are getting more intense  :-\

I wish you well health and journey wise and I look forward to seeing you around the forum's

L Katy  :-*
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transjoe

Hi,

thank you for your replies so far - as announced I will try and see a urologist to get further details.

@ Katrina: No, with the Endo it was only about the lab results, she just suggested to see an Urologist of choice but made no real pressure about it.

A bit of my Problem with health professionals is, that I myself hold a higher position in our health care system and my Name is very well known in almost all our hospitals in the country. Though I am not a doctor of medicine myself I am the legal advisor for medical Research in hospitals in our Region. Especially all Endos and specialists in our Country know me by Name and I have a Reputation an Job in this field (like Scully in Dr. House ;-))

So whenever I Need medicine advice in a personal matter I have to go and see a small district doctor in the Country that does not know me - otherwise i fear for my reputation and I am not anonymous in the medical Society. So for special Treatments I would have to move to another Country.

On the other I have no Problem with "Standard" procedures and testings as I know all the Department Chiefs and they know me - one call and I get what I think i Need, but it is not anonymous - as stated above.


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Welcome to Susan's.

We are opened minded.

Seeing a Urologist would be a good move. You do not need to take T if you do not want to. Also a prostate exam. Make sure you have a prostate exam prior to any HRT, it some day you change your mind.

Seeing a gender therapist can really help you sort out your thoughts. Low does HRT may be something you may want to investigate.
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transjoe

Quote from: Dena on October 02, 2015, 02:47:44 AM
Welcome to Susan's Place. Pretty much anybody is welcome here including people who are CIS. A doctor really needs to do a full workup on you and advise you on this. At 42 you could be suffering from a natural drop in hormone productions. While hormones help prevent bone problems, Calcium, vitamin D and load bearing exercises slide help protect the bones. Hormones are very important when you are young and building bones but not as much when you are older. The doctor shouldn't give you T unless you desire it and may be willing to substitute estrogen if it's really something you want. As for the weight gain, again, that can be caused by aging or a drop in T. Our body need less food as we get older. When I was young, I could put down two plates of food. Now I eat less than one in order to remain at the same weigh.

Hi Dena,

thank you for your Kind words and thoughts - especially your comment about hormones not being so important when being older makes me hope that there is not too much damage as far as osteoporoses is concerned. I however will see to get a bone scan done.

As for the low T I already have the low T since 37 and it is almost a female Level so I don't think it is just the Age.

Joe
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transjoe

Quote from: Cynthia Michelle on October 02, 2015, 06:52:31 PM
Welcome to Susan's.

We are opened minded.

Seeing a Urologist would be a good move. You do not need to take T if you do not want to. Also a prostate exam. Make sure you have a prostate exam prior to any HRT, it some day you change your mind.

Seeing a gender therapist can really help you sort out your thoughts. Low does HRT may be something you may want to investigate.

Hi and thank you for your Input - seeing the urologist will be the next step to get things checked.

I was already thinking to avoid further risks from low T that maybe a low dose would be a possibility, as I really do not plan to Transition.

Joe
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