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Discussing coming out timeline with HR this afternoon

Started by KristinaM, October 07, 2015, 02:00:07 PM

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KristinaM

I can't stand it anymore.  Maybe it's my emotional/hormonal state of mind, but I'm tired of living a double life.

The head of my HR department is in the office this afternoon from out of town, coincidentally, and I was thinking I'd go talk to her if she had time...  I'm tired of having to take off my bra when I am at work and use the men's room...
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Jacqueline

Kristina,

You are a little ahead of me and gaining on your journey. I'm not out in public yet. Thought I would be starting HRT very soon but it looks like it won't be till late January,ugh :P. However, I have had these urges as well. I keep thinking I should tell my boss and a few other folks at the HR office(our company is all in a block of each other). Yet, when push comes to shove, I am still moving glacially slow.

Let us know how it went.

With excited hope.

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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Emjay

I know how you feel Kristina, the double life is like being stuck in limbo. 

I hope it goes well for you, good luck!




Start therapy:                            Late 2013
Start HRT:                                 April, 2014
Out everywhere and full time:      November 19, 2015
Name change (official):                            February 1, 2016
I'm a Mommy! (Again) :                             January 31, 2017
GCS consultation:                        February 17, 2017
GCS, Dr. Gallagher (Indianapolis, IN)  February 13, 2018
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KristinaM

Well, for all intents and purposes, I'm out everywhere in my life except at work now.  I have a tiny handful of friends that don't know, but only because I don't talk to them often anyways, and only my immediate family is aware (and that's a whole 'nother bag of worms!).  So, grandfather, 3 friends, and work, and that's about it.  Even my in-laws know, and of course ALL of my doctors now as of today.  I have also told 5 people at work that I trusted, but still present as some psuedo-feminine-male conglomeration, so I'm already visually preparing people, haha.

I had already notified HR that this change was coming down the pipeline like 5 months back, so she wasn't shocked by any means.  I have just gotten to a point this week where it pisses me off that I have to censor myself when I come to work, and I feel distracted and preoccupied by thinking about how I'd like to be living at work, so I took the opportunity to address that with her this afternoon.

Once again, it went surprisingly well I think.  My original plan was to come out at work next April/May, coinciding with my annual performance review, but I don't think I can wait that long now.  So I'm thinking about coming out for like, January 1st.  I need to put together a plan, what I want to do and what I think needs to be done and give that to her.  From there we can pick a date and work backwards on developing a timeline and how to proceed at each step.  She just asked that I don't catch her off guard and give her more than like, a week's notice to start the ball rolling, lol.  I figure I'll need a meeting with upper management and I want to have a meeting with my department (only 6 of us, 5 of which work within 20 feet of me, so they see me everyday).  Other than that, maybe a company wide e-mail and possible departmental training with each manager to discuss terminology, pronouns, sensitivity training, and what this all really means to them, my presence may or may not be optional for that.

She is surprisingly on-board though, so I'm happy.  The CEO of the company is also aware and on-board, as well as the rest of the HR department apparently, she told them, not me.  I was a little caught off guard by that, but it eases my stress a little to know that what's done is done.

So there you have it.  Yay, one more ball rolling, slowly, but rolling, hehe.
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Emjay

Sounds like you've had a productive, and positive, day!  Congrats, I'm glad it went well!

It's a great feeling getting the ball rolling, the waiting is the really hard part!




Start therapy:                            Late 2013
Start HRT:                                 April, 2014
Out everywhere and full time:      November 19, 2015
Name change (official):                            February 1, 2016
I'm a Mommy! (Again) :                             January 31, 2017
GCS consultation:                        February 17, 2017
GCS, Dr. Gallagher (Indianapolis, IN)  February 13, 2018
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KristinaM

I think I'll set the date for my birthday in January. :)

And thank you for being here. I just needed somewhere to unload my feelings. I think it kept me from taking a Xanax before going to that meeting!

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KristinaM

Now I need to work on a plan, an order of events, procedures, etc... Our company has nothing in place to handle this. It's not like being gay, most people don't wear that outwardly to work everyday!

I have downloaded a couple of samples from other companies that I'm hoping to adapt. I'll also be talking to a lawyer to discuss changing my name as I hear that can take a couple months in NC!

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Emjay

Haha, I know that feeling.  I posted my thread about meeting with HR and the second one with management the same day as each of those meetings too.  I was going crazy waiting!  It definitely helps to have somewhere to let that out.  :)

My plan has been fairly straightforward so far.  HR has done most of the facilitating here.  I've met with them, then a small meeting with my immediate manager, our department manager and the operations manager for my shift (along with HR) to discuss a further plan.  The next step will be pretty much it:  I'm going to have a meeting with my guys (I'm in management) to let them know what's going on, then the same day a larger meeting with all of the other management on my shift followed by diversity training.  From then it will be left up to the respective managers to share information with their groups while I'm away on vacation.  (I'm taking my last week of vacation for the year immediately after the big day as a buffer between presenting male and coming in as me to allow them to handle whatever they need to handle as far as additional training and addressing whatever they need to).  Right now we're planning for November 4th.

I filed for my name change last Friday, I'm not sure what the difference is from Indiana to North Carolina but here it's pretty easy.  The form I downloaded from the state's website, filled it out and filed with my county clerk.  Its a PDF file that fills itself out as you answer questions on the top half.  She gave me a court date (December 7th!).  Here you have to run an ad in the paper once a week for three weeks at least 30 days before the court date then they'll send me an affidavit confirming that I did it to take to court with me.  Once I have my hearing and it's granted my name change is done the same day.  Then comes the process of contacting *everyone* to update my records....  That should be fun.....  It'll be worth it though, I can't wait to have a bank card with my real name on it again so I don't have to carry cash everywhere I go anymore!  :D 




Start therapy:                            Late 2013
Start HRT:                                 April, 2014
Out everywhere and full time:      November 19, 2015
Name change (official):                            February 1, 2016
I'm a Mommy! (Again) :                             January 31, 2017
GCS consultation:                        February 17, 2017
GCS, Dr. Gallagher (Indianapolis, IN)  February 13, 2018
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KristinaM

I don't even look like the photo on my driver's license anymore. I had a beard and was 35 pounds heavier and it shows in my face!  While that makes me happy, I worry it'll get me in trouble someday.

I think the time issue on name change is like yours, we just have a longer wait for court dates.  No ad in the paper though, but we have to post, "a notice on the courthouse for ten days" prior to the court date, just not sure how long before.  It may not be hard, but I'd like a lawyer to help facilitate the paperwork and with the judge. Just for peace of mind.

I really hope I'm picking the right name too since you can only change it once in NC, except for marriage/divorce.

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KristinaM

December 28th, that's my plan, the week between Christmas and New Year's when the office is mostly empty anyways.

And I'm planning to talk to my boss about it this afternoon. I know he's seen things and probably heard rumors, now it's time to let the whole cat out of the bag with him so he can prepare over the next two months.

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