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Started by swedish.rw, November 24, 2015, 09:30:48 AM

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swedish.rw

I recently found out that my OH is transgender, now I have nothing against that at all. He lied to me on multiple times, telling me that the makeup, clothes etc; was from an ex and at first I believed him.
I'm as confused as he is because he tells me he wants to start a family and move in together, but I'm honestly not ready to commit. I don't really know what to do about this whole situation because he is interested in becoming a woman. (I sorta checked his Internet history)
What do I do?
I don't have the guts to sit him down and talk about the situation as it is a sensitive topic. I just need help , please anyone.

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It's a classic move to deny what we feel. It is a form of self protection. He's probably set up defenses like this his entire life. You must talk to him and tell him how you feel. I know it is an uncomfortable conversation to have but you must have it. You can't have a relationship unless you are totally honest with each other. He'll be happy if you are supportive. Give him a little time to come around. But you must realize that this can be a powerful thing for us and we become hellbent on following through. I wish you the best.

Cindi
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Laura_7

Concerning their hiding you might have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,198887.msg1771036.html#msg1771036

I'd suggest you read through the entire thread, maybe you could get a few viewpoints from there...

You might even point your SO to this thread, so they might read a few of the options and opinions there...

and here are a few resources that might help:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,198887.msg1768428.html#msg1768428

Well in your country as far as I know people go either to a doctor or a psychologist and state they are transgender.
They are then referred to special psychologists and centers.
Your SO might look up on the internet how the process works in your country.
There is additionally the option to go private abroad, to london for example.

Being transgender is a spectrum. There are people who dress as women from time to time, there are people with androgynous looks and hairstyle, and there are people who want to transition and live fully as women.
Its up to each person to find out where they are happy.
This might help:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,188309.msg1674885.html#msg1674885

I'd say it might be a good idea to invite them to have a look at this thread, and maybe join susans and ask questions of their own.
Its anonymous.


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sparrow

It's pretty normal to lie about this stuff -- this is a dealbreaker in relationships so often; we lie to our selves and our partners just to keep it together.  If you can make it feel safe for your partner to open up about this stuff, they might be more honest.

Also, lots of transwomen have kids.  Some forego or delay surgery and go the traditional route, some freeze sperm, and some adopt.  You've got options. 
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swedish.rw

Quote from: sparrow on November 24, 2015, 12:10:26 PM
It's pretty normal to lie about this stuff -- this is a dealbreaker in relationships so often; we lie to our selves and our partners just to keep it together.  If you can make it feel safe for your partner to open up about this stuff, they might be more honest.

Also, lots of transwomen have kids.  Some forego or delay surgery and go the traditional route, some freeze sperm, and some adopt.  You've got options.
It's hurt me the most because he felt the need to hide it from me,he still does.
I feel like I can't settle down and start a family yet until he has decided what he wants. I'm scared I would settle and he wouldn't want to be a man anymore. As I said I don't have anything against trans,  it would just be weird and confusing seeing him as a woman as I've got use to him been well him.

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Laura_7

Quote from: swedish.rw on November 24, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
It's hurt me the most because he felt the need to hide it from me,he still does.
I feel like I can't settle down and start a family yet until he has decided what he wants. I'm scared I would settle and he wouldn't want to be a man anymore. As I said I don't have anything against trans,  it would just be weird and confusing seeing him as a woman as I've got use to him been well him.

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Its well possible they are also a bit undecided.
So they might read this thread, and opinions and views and experiences of other transgender people.
There are quite a few recurring issues, to do with shame, self acceptance, maybe bad experiences in the past...
so they might understand they are not alone and not the only one experiencing this.
And there is no need for shame etc.

You might then talk about it... about your viewpoints...
and imo it might help if they would go to a gender specialist...
there are also online therapists if you would rather go private...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,187135.msg1666871.html#msg1666871

Well I'd say you might talk about it.

You might reassure each other, and help each other through this.
Just watch out for yourself, too.

Well concerning an image of them... some people compare it to a male/female twin, with still the same sense of humour.. so parts stay the same in any case...

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Christy76

You could always drop hints and see what your SO says about it. For instance if you share a PC or use the same smart phone or tablet you could leave a google search open about transgender people. You could make lighthearted comments about how it would be fun to put make up on them and see what they say. Kind of break the ice gradually and more easily and they may be honest about their feelings.
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Obfuskatie

Bah, I'm all for being blunt and asking him in a kind manner what his immediate and 5 to 10 year plans are. The window of opportunity to have Hormone Replacement Therapy work at its best closes a little every year they wait. If your SO decides to have children and transition they will probably want to start soon. Whether or not you remain attracted to them as they become more outwardly female depends on your preferences.

All of this supposition necessitates you seeing what your SO wants to do, and their plans. You can mention finding the breadcrumbs they left on their internet history and collection of feminine accoutrement. It makes sense that you'd worry, because this is kind of a life changing endeavor and you probably didn't plan on being perceived as gay. But you need to talk, ovary up girlfriend, (if I may borrow the expressions from Dan Savage), and have that hard conversation.

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janetcgtv

As a judge in the USA says it's time to put your big girls panties on. YOU need to have a heart to heart talk with him.
Is he just going to cross dress only some women accept this as well as some women don't. It is your life as well and you must decide if you will be happy with the arrangement. tell him that you will always be his friend no matter what he does just as long as he is completely honest with you. ask him if he thinks about hormones and having surgery. Remember if  he says er or what. that is a hesitation sign  meaning he does not know, self denial, or is lying to you.

I wish the best for you both,

Janet
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sparrow

Quote from: swedish.rw on November 24, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
It's hurt me the most because he felt the need to hide it from me,he still does.
When I say "It's normal," I mean that your partner's actions make sense.  I don't mean to suggest that it shouldn't hurt you.  When thinking about how to approach this, it's good to take your partner's perspective into account.  Sounds like you're doing that... you're really brave to be here and looking for support.  Thank you.

Quote from: swedish.rw on November 24, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
I feel like I can't settle down and start a family yet until he has decided what he wants.
Well, that isn't really true.  Suppose your partner is still interested in staying together with you, but wants to live as a woman.  As I mentioned before, you have options to start a family... and your kid(s) will have two moms.  It seems relatively rare for transition to change one's sexual orientation, so if I were to make a wager on this, I'd say that your partner wants to stay with you.  In fact, if you're supportive of their gender choices, their loyalty towards you will likely increase dramatically.

Quote from: swedish.rw on November 24, 2015, 01:25:28 PM
I'm scared I would settle and he wouldn't want to be a man anymore. As I said I don't have anything against trans,  it would just be weird and confusing seeing him as a woman as I've got use to him been well him.
Yeah.  You'll want to seek therapy.  You're likely going to have some grief to deal with.  In the interest of your relationship, it is best for you to deal with that grief out of sight of your partner.  In time, you two will be able to share what you've gone through... but when we share raw emotions, it can be a huge blow to the relationship.

It will definitely be weird and confusing.  Also, it's fairly normal for transgender folk to make strange clothing decisions early on... which has the unfortunate effect of making their appearance all the more jarring to people who aren't used to seeing us.  As you're well aware, finding an outfit that works with your figure can be a challenge for cisgender women -- and you've had a lifetime of practice!  Filling a wardrobe with clothes that work together and work for a masculine body-shape is daunting beyond belief.

My wife identifies as heterosexual, and she had huge fears about all this stuff when I started discovering my gender variance.  I've been on HRT for a number of months now, and my body is starting to show effects.  My skin has gotten softer, I have a new subcutaneous fat layer, and tiny breasts.  We were pleasantly surprised... she likes my body better this way!  A little sex can go a long way to making a couple feeling warm about each other.
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TG CLare

Keeping it from you I think is a normal reaction. Before I eventually let the cat out of the bag, wearing female clothes was my deepest darkest secret and no amount of torture would have made me reveal it to anyone.

Once I did tell my dearest companion about how I felt because she found some clues, everything went south. She didn't leave me out in the cold but she moved back to her place and all long term plans such as marriage etc went right out the window. She is now my closest friend and ally but everything changed because as she told me, " I thought I was going to be with a man not a woman. I cannot be a lesbian." Case closed.

I am not defending his actions about lying, but I can totally understand them.

Best of luck to you.

Love,
Clare
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sparrow

Quote from: TG CLare on November 25, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
... "I thought I was going to be with a man not a woman. I cannot be a lesbian." Case closed.

I'm really sorry to hear that, Clare.  My wife said that too, but as I mentioned, she eventually opened her mind.
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coldtea

I'm a female-to-male, but I can say that many people feel VERY scared about telling ANYONE. Even if they're not scared to tell you, they might be scared of something else that's hard to explain. When you're transgender you're usually extremely depressed (even if it doesn't show). Depression causes a lot of irrational fear, and intensifies your normal fears. I've known multiple people who really wanted to transition but were too scared to even look up any info about how you actually begin the process.

I met my wife online and knew her for three years before we ever met in person, and soon after we started dating. For those three years I had thought she was a guy because she refused to tell me her gender (and hadn't ever corrected me). So I was really surprised when we met of course, but that didn't change anything about how we were friends. I like her so much that I assume I'd still have been willing to try dating her even if she had been male - since her looks and gender isn't the reason why I like her, it's her personality. Your general personality doesn't change after you transition, but I think you normally become a better person because you're much happier. For example, I help out around the house more, I eat better, I'm much less grouchy, but I'm still me.

My wife says "I don't think about your body, I just think about the fact that it's YOU" so the transition doesn't bother her in that way. Probably someone who met in person from the beginning and always had a fixed idea of what someone looked/sounded like has a harder time, I don't know.

When I told my family it was because I had already started the therapy process and had been living as a male for a year. I thought I could hide it until after I had started hormones, but I could no longer stand it that they called me "she" and so on. It felt like a knife to the gut every time. It got so bad (because I was so depressed), that I felt "do they want me to kill myself?" and at that point I had to just tell them, otherwise perhaps I really would have killed myself.

In fact there was no reason for me to hide it, really. They had never been against gay people, and they knew/assumed that I was gay. My mom was pretty sexist and also tried to put me in a dress a few times, but I lived with my dad so the situation wasn't all that bad. But it was like my brain had decided "this is how things have always been; they've always called me female" and I was deadly scared about the whole thing because it would disrupt what was "normal" for us. The specific topic of what they thought about ->-bleeped-<- had never come up and that's where the fear stemmed from.

I had seen how people treated stuff like male-to-female crossdressers on TV that aired where I lived - they were always ugly and were essentially just a joke. That was all I knew of transgender people (since they never appeared in books) until I began researching myself, and that was how I assumed my parents thought of transgender people. Actually, in the end I was right to hide it for as long as I could from them but I won't go into that here lol!

Some transgender people who want kids desperately want to transition before their kid is old enough to be able to remember them as the wrong gender.

As for talking or not talking to your partner about it... I remember that when I was telling my father, I had so much pent-up emotion and I was so depressed that I just said some really weird things. The further I got into my transition (especially after I had my first chest surgery) the more sympathetic I became to other people and the more emotional feelings I got when GLBT topics came up. As in nowdays if someone talks about growing up as transgender on TV I actually end up crying. I also end up crying at stuff talking about the end of adolescence, probably since that's when I realized I was transgender and realized "ah, THAT'S my problem" and nowadays I feel sort of like I "missed out" on my entire childhood or something. Me crying would have been unheard of before, so you should prepare for possible weird stuff like that I guess...

I think it helps to go out and read/watch media with transgender stuff in it, you can do it together if you'd like. I tend to do this with my wife, then she can ask me "Is it really like that? I don't get it at all" and I can say yes or no. In the meantime, I feel like I don't have to give her a big speech or anything because we can both "experience" things through the movie.

If you want some fiction recommendations and don't already know about these, "Hourou Musuko" is a comic about both a boy who wants to be a girl and a girl who wants to be a boy (the boy-to-girl is the main character), it shows them beginning to realize their feelings in elementary school and follows them all the way until the start of university. Out of everything that I've ever read and watched I think this is the thing that has treated ->-bleeped-<- the most nicely and realistically. The part about simply wanting to transition but all of society being so against it is the biggest thing.

"Peacock" is a movie about a guy who dresses up as a woman for half the day or so - having to hide that he does this from the whole town. It slowly grows into more and more of the time that he's dressed up (if I recall). I won't say more and spoil it. It's not specifically about ->-bleeped-<-, but the guy is really good at acting the female part, and it's not one of those American movies where you're supposed to just laugh at the guy in a dress. The part about "hiding" things is the biggest theme.

"Cockpit" is the only other one I remember right now, where a guy starts living as a woman because he can't get a job as a man. It's a sort of feminist comedy as I remember and the ending gets kinda crazy, but it's okay. Since it's a comedy, I don't know if it'd be best or worst to watch first if you do decide to watch anything together.

(My wife's personal favourite is "Some Like It Hot")
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stephaniec

all I'd like to say is you have every right to live the way you need to live which is exactly what your SO wants.
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Quote from: swedish.rw on November 24, 2015, 09:30:48 AM
I recently found out that my OH is transgender, now I have nothing against that at all. He lied to me on multiple times, telling me that the makeup, clothes etc; was from an ex and at first I believed him.
I'm as confused as he is because he tells me he wants to start a family and move in together, but I'm honestly not ready to commit. I don't really know what to do about this whole situation because he is interested in becoming a woman. (I sorta checked his Internet history)
What do I do?
I don't have the guts to sit him down and talk about the situation as it is a sensitive topic. I just need help , please anyone.

Stay fabulous
~ Confusedsince95

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Hello
How are you feeling today? I suggest talking to your SO as well.... I am in a similar situation to you.
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nocgirl

This is a huge dealbreaker in most relationships honestly. Can you handle him slowly transistion into a woman? You are not married, if you choose to stay with him prepare for some major changes. I don't blame you for being upset. Does he intend to continue to date women or is he interested in men? Good luck in whatever you decide.
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Qrachel

I am truly in awe.  You are an amazing woman for reaching out as you have.  You gotten great suggestions here and I'd just repeat them . . . ditto that!  However, this turns out you're on the right track.

With humble admiration and genuine love for the example you set,

Rachel
Rachel

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swedish.rw

I cannot thank each and every one of enough. I have had so many amazing comments that have helped me understand what a transgender person must go through on a daily basis and how it affects said person.
You all have some serious guts I'll give you that! I'm scared to tell my mum that I'm looking at flats! Each and every one of you are amazing and thank you again for all the amazing suggestions.


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