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Request for Information on Implantable Estrogen Pellets

Started by Harley Quinn, December 04, 2015, 07:50:57 AM

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Harley Quinn

Does anyone have good links or information on Implantable Estrogen Pellets? The best I have found is a couple TG Medical centers that mention them. They don't cover what type of hormones the pellets consist of. Researching pellet implants 90% of the sites speak of Bio-Identical hormones. Is that the only kind? Additional research material, or first hand knowledge would be great. Even the information from other posts here are pretty vague.

Thanks!
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Laura_7

here is enough info for you and an endo or doc to get started:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,192044.msg1713877.html#msg1713877

There is bioidentical estrogen,
bioidentical progesterone... which is more given to extrusions than estrogen pellets. One remedy is intramuscular implantation.
And there is bioidentical testosterone, which might be necessary after srs. A low level of testosterone can help with orgasm capability and overall drive.

All are available in smaller doses and larger doses.
Smaller doses for example as testosterone, which is a quite usual supplement for menopausal women.
Doses above menopausal level in estrogen might help a healthy neovagina. The neovagina reacts to estrogen like a vagina, and high enough levels might help avoid atrophy.

There is also non bio identical stuff which I would not touch.
Bioidentical is supposed to have the least side effects.


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Harley Quinn

Thank you so much Laura! I like my research prior to talking to anyone... I like to have informed questions ready when speaking to Medical Professionals. I feel they're less apt to brush off my concerns, if I'm well informed and can carry on an intelligent conversation.  :)
At what point did my life go Looney Tunes? How did it happen? Who's to blame?... Batman, that's who. Batman! It's always been Batman! Ruining my life, spoiling my fun! >:-)
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Laura_7

Quote from: Harley Quinn on December 04, 2015, 08:27:07 AM
Thank you so much Laura! I like my research prior to talking to anyone... I like to have informed questions ready when speaking to Medical Professionals. I feel they're less apt to brush off my concerns, if I'm well informed and can carry on an intelligent conversation.  :)

You have enough to even talk about levels. This info is quite rare, how much an implant might produce in serum levels.
A level of well above 200-300 pg/ml might drive down t into the female range as well, without anti androgens.
Some endos use this form of hrt to avoid side effects of anti androgens.
Its a well known effect which is considered safe only with implants and injections.
With injections in the first days levels are usually also well above that level.

Internal applications like implants and injections are considered quite safe.
Cis women usually have also high levels during pregnancy, so its nothing unheard of.

Bioidentical progesterone might additionally be given, it might help with breast development and rounding of the breasts and also might have some anti androgen effects.

There are even training materials available for docs concerning trocars etc. Its in the link to one pharmacy as example.

So it should be enough to get a doc or endo started if they are not aquainted with it.

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Harley Quinn

At what point did my life go Looney Tunes? How did it happen? Who's to blame?... Batman, that's who. Batman! It's always been Batman! Ruining my life, spoiling my fun! >:-)
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Laura_7

Quote from: Harley Quinn on December 04, 2015, 09:29:45 AM
Thank you so much!

You're welcome.
Implants are considered one of the best methods of delivery.
Many say its the closest to ovaries.

Additionally there is no hassle with meds.

So imo its good to get spread around.


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AnonyMs

I think you're best off finding an doctor who does them. You won't have any trouble persuading them to do it if you do, and if they don't already they may not want to start. It's not like a syringe, there's a small amount of equipment and perhaps skill they need.
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Laura_7

Quote from: AnonyMs on December 04, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
I think you're best off finding an doctor who does them. You won't have any trouble persuading them to do it if you do, and if they don't already they may not want to start. It's not like a syringe, there's a small amount of equipment and perhaps skill they need.

Well its not much equipment... compounding pharmacies provide it, often together with sheets how to use it.

Its possible endos doing menopausal treatment or birth control do pellets, too.
Maybe they would need to order larger ones for hrt.


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Harley Quinn

Well, it will all remain to be seen. I can always request a referral if they're unable to accommodate me. However, for insurance purposes, I need to see the doctor they assigned me initially. Once he says he can't do it, I can go elsewhere.  A great reason to be able to speak intelligently.

I am almost recovered from my recent motorcycle accident; which among numerous broken bones and internal injuries, caused liver and kidney trauma. That coupled with multiple surgeries had me off hormones for a while. I believe that it would be easy to convince them that pellets would be preferable.

Push comes to shove I'd gladly come out of pocket. The fact that I wouldn't have to do the billions of pills would be icing on the cake, and worth the cost.  ;)
At what point did my life go Looney Tunes? How did it happen? Who's to blame?... Batman, that's who. Batman! It's always been Batman! Ruining my life, spoiling my fun! >:-)
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Ms Grace

Quote from: Laura_7 on December 04, 2015, 01:27:48 PM
Well its not much equipment... compounding pharmacies provide it, often together with sheets how to use it.

Well it does also require a local anaesthetic injection, incision and stitching (one or two). It's not brain surgery but you definitely want to have someone who knows what they're doing.
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Laura_7

Quote from: Ms Grace on December 04, 2015, 03:20:09 PM
Well it does also require a local anaesthetic injection, incision and stitching (one or two). It's not brain surgery but you definitely want to have someone who knows what they're doing.

Yes but its not rocket science  :)


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