5 weeks of Estrodot and feel EXACTLY the same...!?

[Squirebuffy1990]

Hi Everyone,

Is this 'normal' to feel so different at all after being on the patch for 5 weeks?
I never suffered from the dysphoria side of things as much as others but I thought being on an estrogen patch would have some emotional or mental affect on me but it hasn't. 

I have noticed my arm muscles changing and breast tissue development but other than that, nothing. My doctor assures me I dont need any T-blockers right now either.   I'm 24 if that helps at all? 

Did anyone else find this?

Thanks,
Happy New Year too!

[AnonyMs]

I'm not sure this is applicable since you have physical development, but I got poor results from patches, and my endo told me that some people don't absorb estrogen very well though the skin.

I changed to implants. Big big difference.

[Tessa James]

We all respond as individuals and I hope your provider is basing your treatment plan on how you feel and your lab data.

You are relatively young and perhaps you are so adept at coping with change that you may not feel it yet?  Not suffering from dysphoria "much" could mean you have less to fix?   It is a very slow process for some of us and that you are getting secondary physical changes seems promising.  Hang on

[Maybebaby56]

Hi Squirebuffy,

Do you know the results from your bloodwork?  A healthy 24-year old male should have very high testosterone levels, and that will greatly diminish any effects from that dosage patch.  I am really surprised your doctor has not put you on T-blockers.

I am 58, and my testosterone levels were low even before I began HRT, around 370 ng/dL, and after 6 months of being on spironolactone it is now around 36 ng/dL.  On that same dosage of estradiol you are taking, I experienced a noticeable mental change (decreased dysphoria) within days.  My estrogen levels are not high - around 37 pg/mL - but that is probably typical for the patch.  It is designed for post-menopausal women.

Since you don't have any great degree of dysphoria, the effects are probably more subtle for you. I would definitely ask your doctor about your hormone levels and why he or she is not prescribing an anti-androgen.

With kindness,

Terri

[Ms Grace]

Five weeks is fairly soon to be expecting any major physical changes, besides the effects are so incremental we often don't notice most of them. If you weren't overly dysphoric to begin with that would most likely explain why you don't feel much difference emotionally.

[Shannon morgan]

I know that when i started estriodol. i didnt really see any effects for a while. I did get far more once a Testostorone blocker was introduced. However at least where i am they will be reluctant to move forward too fast with blockers due too the risk of osteo perosis and such. they tend to prefer to build up your estrogen levels to a sufficient enough level to counter this then introduce a blocker. but you will eventually see results, beware the mood swings though can for some me included take some getting used too.

[Squirebuffy1990]

I think thats what is going to happen with me Shannen? Who was your doctor out of interest?

[Shannon morgan]

I think thats what is going to happen with me Shannen? Who was your doctor out of interest?

Dr Mepham. nottingham gneder clinic.

[JoanneB]

E has been known to help lessen the GD but is not guaranteed. I used low dose E with and w/o an AA in the past, as far as emotional effects I can't say there was a big difference back in my late 20's. Today for sure creeping higher T will worsen the GD far more then lowering E

The delivery method, which also ties into the type of E, does make a difference. Another YMMV factor. In my support group there are those that swear by and swear at patches, same for pills, same again for shots, and same for Premarin vs estradiol valerate.

[Deborah]

The one thing I've learned reading this forum for a year is that everyone's mind seems to react a little bit differently.  That would make for an interesting scientific study to figure out why.

For me, I don't think I've had any major emotional changes in a year.  However, it did eliminate most of the GD very quickly which lifted a spirit of negativity I always carried around. So I am much happier now.  Maybe that is a major emotional change?  But other than that I didn't start crying or exhibit other changes that some report.


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