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Started by Amoré, January 09, 2016, 07:29:21 AM

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Amoré

I have been on here with my journey a couple of times and you know my story. :)

She applied for divorce on Tuesday and I was sort of shocked bud glad something happened instead of the constant threats that drove me insane and pushed me into deep depression and over the edge. I think I caught her bluff and she realized Oh gosh I can't pull back now otherwise I am going to look weak.

I spoke to my therapist and she told me she was just waiting for the day when I stop putting my wife on a trone and see that she is not an angel. She said if she told me that I was being emotionally abused before I would defend my wife. So she kept it secret until I came to the realization.

Then she opened up pandoras box of her assessment of my situation. So much is making sense now I can see it every day. I can cope with the crap she is giving me and I am sort of at peace with reality. I still try negotiating with her for meeting her half way but to no avail she is just who she is. She wants her way and tantrums if she can't get it. I know some people have ideas of how life must go but to life to strict ideals really no husband can life up to the standard of husbandry she want not even Ken of barby.

I left my well paying job to try and give her more money because I was not making enough. I was the example of the perfect husband I really was. I tried my best and once I leveled up the next stage and check points started. I was so imasculated by her at the end and for a person struggling with gd there whole life this is a resepy for disaster.

The problem is she may not change her emotional abusive ways. If I am not there then my child is going to become her next victum. Like she will yell at my child and scream and then turn around and tell me look what you made me do? Really I made you do that? She can't take responsibility for anything. Her cousin says it was like this there whole life. She can't even take responsibility for the divorce she is telling me I made her do it then I told her then I tell you to stop it and lets get you help and help for our marriage.

When I tell her this she is telling me I won't control her then I say to her but really you just told me I made you divorce me. There is just no winning she switches so fast between stories and excuses. I told her I think she might be bipolar she is going to ask her therapist to test her. I know her she is just going to come back and say nothing is wrong.

So is this divorce really because I am transgender or does it look like some sort of underlying mental disorder and abusive controlling wife that is in a power struggle?

All I know that getting divorced sucks it hurts it feels like death of someone you loved.
on This may be how people with transgender family members feels like when the person transitions.

I don't know I will continue my transition once I am divorced. For now it is only trying to life each day and find happiness in something and myself.


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Dena

Non of the above. A marriage is a partnership between two people and both have to give and take equally. In your marriage, you were the giver and she was the taker. You weren't getting what you needed and she was getting everything that she could get.

The was bound to happen at some point in time and it was only a question of when you had enough. The fact that you are transgender only made it happen sooner.

It's your decision, but you should consider the future of your child at this point. You may be a better care taker than your wife so you should talk to your lawyer about custody of your child to ensure the abuse you have received doesn't happen to your child.
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Catherine Sarah

Dear Amoré,

I'm inclined to think your marriage died some time ago. It's really been held together with manipulation and control. Fortunately you are now becoming aware of it and taking the appropriate course of action.

Your wife has instigated the process, it's now time for you to move on with yourself and do what you have to do for yourself.

Little bit lie what they tell you on vp every flight you take. Make sure your oxygen mask is firmly attached BEFORE you attempt to help anyone else.  Once you've got yourself "right," you then help others.

People who cannot accept responsibility for their own actions, need to seriously find counselling. it's a major character flaw, that needs to be remediated to ensure emotional and intellectual maturity.

Keep on keeping on. Your doing a great job under the circumstances

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Amoré

It is really crap having someone say to you in your face I don't love you anymore and you mean nothing to me. I doubt nt know if this is just a way of hurting me and trying to break me because I did not break down like usual. Then she comes and tells me today she always gave everyone what they wanted from her now she is just looking after herself. She is just going to worry and care about herself now. I told her what about your daughter then yes me and my daughter. I can't see the correlation between caring for yourself means caring for your daughter. My mother also just cared about herself and her happiness. She did not care about our children our grades how we are doing she left me with my younger brother and sister alone at night and went out to get boyfriends. I was 12 years old my brother 8 and sister 7 at that stage.

This is what putting your happiness above everything else means to me bad parenting.

With coming out as transgender and being diagnosed as a transexual I never in my life wanted to divorce her and the proof in this is in the amount of times I stopped hormones to save this thing. I stopped for the third time now already.

What she is doing now is playing on my conscious that the damage I will do to my child with transitioning will be much worse than divorce. I say it would still be better to have both parents in one house even if the one transitioned and know both are your parents. So if I pack transition on the divorce will I that much damage to my child?

Is it fair that she wants to divorce but I must stay happy being a man because of the damage I will do to my child. My deal is you divorce me I transition you stay I don't. That is sort of meeting each other in the midel now for me.


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bobbisue

   Amor'e the more you describe your wife and marriage the more it sounds like my ex and marriage the abuse would be there no matter what you do eventually I left because the abuse went from emotional to physical as well we had 3 children at home at the time when I left I was unable to take them with me  my lawyer advised me to set up a home where the was a place for my children giving them an option to move when they wanted to as children know where it is best for them and will make this choice when the opportunity arises this was some of the best advice I have ever received and now i have a wonderful relationship with all of them   

    Live your life well and be happy its the best thing you can do for your daughter

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Rachel

Can you imagine what life will be like with your wife for the next 5 years if you stay together. Next imaging your life divorced from your wife for the next 5 years. Which one feels better? Now imagine if you had joint custody of your daughter and are able to give her love and stability. When she gets older she can determine which parent she can stay with more.

It sounds like you know what is best for yourself and what may ultimately be best for your daughter. I did not mention transitioning above. Did you think about transitioning?
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Amoré

The problem is my wife wants to control everything.This including how my child is raised she sees me as the source that all evil sprouts from so she only wants to allow me to see my child every second weekend and said there is no way she will allow 50/50 joint custody.


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WorkingOnThomas

Amoré, I've been following your posts for a time now, not had a lot to say, but just going to throw my two cents in. As far as I can tell, your marriage ended a while ago. Your wife sounds like an emotionally abusive manipulator and you deserve better. As to damaging your child, sorry - but that is bs, start to finish. Your kid is young enough to love and accept you for who you are, provided that you learn to do likewise. Get a lawyer, protect yourself, guarantee your custody rights, and move on.
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JoanneB

I have to agree with others that said your Partnership, your marriage, ended a long time ago, assuming there ever was a true partnership at all.

One of the sad facts of life is that many people, male & female, will go into a marriage figuring, Yeah, I like them. They have some issues. AND I CAN CHANGE THEM. In that process you can wind up killing the very thing you want to change and perhaps loved. (A MUCH bigger philosophical debate). At best you can set and live an example of your own vision of an ideal life, perhaps a little nudging. But that's it. People only change if they want to change. The reasons for wanting to can vary from fear of loosing the other person, or desperation; to seeing that the change just may be better for you. That you see a real benefit.

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Amoré

I feel bad for breaking up my child's home it is not fair towards her. But you can't work with someone who won't cooperate. That can't admit to being guilty or doing anything wrong. It won't work out with someone like that I will agree


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KathyLauren

It sounds to me like the divorce is happening.

If so, then it is time to stop thinking about what she will allow and start thinking about what you will demand.  Start talking to your lawyer now about your requirements, especially when it comes to child custody and arrangements. 
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Amoré

I guess it is happening she wants an uncontested divorce but I will get lawyer for myself and my rights. Especially sinse I am going to transition after the divorce. I hope a make a cute woman ;D what do you think?


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JoanneB

Quote from: Amoré on January 09, 2016, 11:28:35 AM
I feel bad for breaking up my child's home it is not fair towards her. But you can't work with someone who won't cooperate.
My wife will gladly tell you how much she wishes her parents divorced rather then stay together "for the kids" and to drag yet another poor soul, aka the "Starting Over" kid, into that entire sick dysfunctional family.
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Amoré

I know how it feels my mother and father was also very dysfunctional together. It sucked and was an constant arguing. But they could not sort it out they never went for help. I won't say I can do it better or that I am different it also depends on the person that you share your marriage with.

The only thing we are arguing about at this stage is to get divorced or not which is so stupid. That is all that we are arguing about for 5 months actually  >:(


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DuckyAlexis

I agree with others who said get a lawyer before you do anything. Don't agree to an uncontested divorce.  Speak to a lawyer and get help with getting fair visitation rights with your child and division of property etc.  Hard to want to fight when you are so emotional and drained and upset, but that is precisely WHY you need a lawyer.
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Rachel

Your wife wants to control you. She is using the marriage and your daughter to control you.

The love is long gone and most likely is unsalvageable.

Get a lawyer and get shared custody, support and fair division of property. Move on ASAP and start a new life.

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Adena

Amoré, everyone it seems is telling you that you need to fight for your rights and your child. To me, you seem to hate conflict so much it is paralyzing you from doing so. Fight for your right to be you and for at least equal custody with your child, and get the legal help you need to do the right way in your country, and please don't delay any further. There are times in life when conflict avoidance no longer can give you peace but will only result in further grief for you and your loved ones. Now is that time.

That's what I think anyway, hope it helps you a bit.

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Maybebaby56

Quote from: Amoré on January 09, 2016, 11:59:41 AM
I guess it is happening she wants an uncontested divorce but I will get lawyer for myself and my rights. Especially sinse I am going to transition after the divorce. I hope a make a cute woman ;D what do you think?

You are already a cute woman, sweetie. I wish you all the best.

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Marienz

Hi
My words will most likely have little impact but I hope things work out well for you down the road:)
I to am separating from my partner who thinks he is TG, I guess the difference is I would of done anything to save the relationship. Gender means little to me in the love I feel for him.
Your situation sounds hurtful, you appear to be an amazing person fighting for your rights to be who you truly are.
For the sake of your child, do talk to a lawyer to find out your custody rights:)
I wish you the best of luck on both your transition and your family situation.
Marie :)


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Amoré

Quote from: Rachel Lynn on January 09, 2016, 10:06:17 AM
Can you imagine what life will be like with your wife for the next 5 years if you stay together. Next imaging your life divorced from your wife for the next 5 years. Which one feels better? Now imagine if you had joint custody of your daughter and are able to give her love and stability. When she gets older she can determine which parent she can stay with more.

It sounds like you know what is best for yourself and what may ultimately be best for your daughter. I did not mention transitioning above. Did you think about transitioning?

Hi I did think about transitioning and still do a lot! What hurts me the most was that I promised my wife that I would stop if she wanted me too and I did. It sort of put me in a depression when I did but I was fine with it. The only reason why I started transition is because she told me she was bisexual she even went to my therapist and told her all this things and sayd she could be with a woman. She just had a change of heart one weekend treated me like crap pushed me over the edge. I ended up in rehad because I attempted suicide and all fell apart from there.

After that I stopped hormones to try and save my marriage she gave me a chance but from her side really did not make much effort to make things better.

She tried but you can see she did not like it much.

The person I really worry about is my little daughter and what divorce means for her. I am a child of divorce and the ripples still lasts to today.

I will sacrifice my own happiness for my childs and won't transition if my wife is willing to cooperate. This I will promise and put on paper if I have too.


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