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When you wake up next day, would you like to wake up as cisgender...

Started by Sebby Michelango, January 17, 2016, 01:00:07 PM

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When you wake up next day, would you like to wake up as cisgender and be cis rest of your life?

Yes, I want to be cisgender
No, I'm happy about being trans
I don't know
No, I'm happy about being genderfluid/genderqueer/other non-binary...etc...
No, I'm happy about being intersex

Violets

To wake up cis would definitely be a dream come true because I've been wishing for this for most of my life. Being cis would've saved a LOT of heartache and confusion.


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diane 2606

Can I turn the question around just a little?

Given a choice, I'd rather have lived my entire life as cisgendered, not just from tomorrow morning. Otherwise, I'm pretty satisfied with my life as a retired post-op lesbian.

If I could make a change it would be to suddenly find myself where it's sunny, 75º F, and I'm walking up to the first tee, rather than 19º and snow on the ground.
"Old age ain't no place for sissies." — Bette Davis
Social expectations are not the boss of me.
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Devlyn

Quote from: green27 on January 21, 2016, 02:02:27 AM
Absolutely,

I'd love to sit down and have a long conversation with someone who is glad they have a trans identity. I'm honestly curious about their perspective because it is so different than mine.

My life would have been significantly different if I was born a boy. So much of my childhood was difficult because of the way that I fought the feminine role I was being forced into.

Sounds like a good idea for a topic! I'm thrilled to be transgender and would answer any questions you have. I don't want to derail this topic, though.

Hugs, Devlyn
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Asche

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on January 21, 2016, 09:36:08 AM
Quote from: green27 on January 21, 2016, 02:02:27 AM
I'd love to sit down and have a long conversation with someone who is glad they have a trans identity. I'm honestly curious about their perspective because it is so different than mine.
Sounds like a good idea for a topic! I'm thrilled to be transgender and would answer any questions you have. I don't want to derail this topic, though.

Hugs, Devlyn
Same here!

The short answer: I suspect my life would have been harder if I had been cis all my life.
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Sebby Michelango

Quote from: Asche on January 21, 2016, 12:49:09 PM
The short answer: I suspect my life would have been harder if I had been cis all my life.

I don't understand what you mean. Can you please explain me how being cis in your whole life would maybe be much harder for you? I thought cis was the normal privilege, but being trans, you faced more problem in many cases. I want to learn more about the difference in our community.
I wish I could be cis. Gender dysphoria, discrimination and all these things are a real pain in the ass... a Hell for me.
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Kellam

For me it could have been harder because my grandparents from both sides would have imposed super girly stuff on me. I sincerely believe I would have been a tomboy trans or cis. So I would have had roles forced on me either way. Also, yes I wish my hips and chest were a bit bigger but they would have been huge if I had been cis. Also I would not have been provided the decades of deep soul searching. I would have had an entirely different life. Because I was seen as a big scary man I was able to do so many badass things that would be so much harder if I were a cis girl.

I have such a great sense of myself as I am. I learned so much in the closet that now that I'm out, I can apply to my new confidence. I am the independent woman I always wanted to be. I never wanted to be prom queen. I wanted to be an adult tomboy who lived alone and did everything for herself. Living as a man made it easier for me to gain the manual labor skills I need to live my life. The future opens up to me because I am a non binary trans woman.
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DanielleA

Quote from: Sebby Michelango on January 21, 2016, 02:21:30 PM
I don't understand what you mean. Can you please explain me how being cis in your whole life would maybe be much harder for you? I thought cis was the normal privilege, but being trans, you faced more problem in many cases. I want to learn more about the difference in our community.
I wish I could be cis. Gender dysphoria, discrimination and all these things are a real pain in the ass... a Hell for me.

I would like to answer this too. My life would have been much worse. My big sister told me about how the biomother would stand idley by and allow many men to abuse my sister. I have every reason to believe that biomother would have done the same to me. As for the whole gender dysphoria and all that, I can manage it through transitioning and I am very good at standing up for myself.
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Tamika Olivia

Psh... I dunno. Probably? Like, I wouldn't have to shave tomorrow morning and that would be cool. I wouldn't have to spend a lot of time and money transitioning, and I could do all the cool genetic girl stuff I'll never get to do, like have children. My odds of being murdered or discriminated against in housing and employment would go down, not to cis-guy levels, but down from where they are. That would all be nice, and desirable.

On the other hand, I like being trans. Discovering who I am, looking into queer politics and history, has created an empowering sense of awe and respect for what that means. Yes, as a cis woman I could be an advocate for trans people, but I wouldn't be trans anymore. I couldn't speak with the authority of that status, couldn't stand in complete solidarity with people who were like me before this magical change. I would feel like I selfishly abandoned this community.

Now, if the tide rose all boats... If this magical transformation hit everyone forever and for always, that might be better. Still, I'm not sure if it's ideal. Being trans offers a unique perspective, and it's an important component in the fight against institutionalized societal oppression. It challenges the gender binary in an important way, and could be a key element in realizing a new societal outlook on gender, sexuality, and non-conformity. If our part of the movement against these toxic norms was removed or lessened, how would it weaken the fight? How many would suffer if trans wasn't there as an alternative to the standard narrative? I dunno, I just don't. It doesn't seem right to have a magical escape hatch to privilege for one, or some. It seems better to tear down the privilege altogether.

If faced with the choice, I think my selfish desires would win out against my politics in the end, but part of me hopes not...

But then again, I'm probably WAY overthinking a fun hypothetical... sorry 'bout that  ;D
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deja-entended

If there were surgeries for trans masc people that made it so that you would have pretty much the same body as a cis man to the point where there would be nothing about your body that would be a giveaway as trans, then no, I'd stay trans. I like being trans, I like the community and I like the sense of finding yourself that it brings. I however, cannot stand the dysphoria that comes with it for me.

I will never have genitalia just like a cis man's and I'll never be able to have sex without having to have an awkward conversation explaining my status as trans beforehand and I'll never be able to honestly, truly feel at home in my body. And that fact is absolutely suffocating. At best I can get a phallo or a meta but those are a poor substitute for a full sized and fully-functional penis. And top surgery scars; I really don't want them. So, as much as I love being trans, I can't stand the dysphoria and I'd give it up in a second if I could have the body I want. 
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cindianna_jones

Uhm... let's see. Give me a moment.

Are you kidding? My answer is an unqualified YES!

This thing at the very least has placed a hardship on me that is at best overwhelming for most of my life. And it doesn't end. It never ends. I can tell you that I think of being CIS at least once a day. I'm not obsessed with it but every time I run into something like a financial statement or log on to this site, I am reminded that I am considered less by our society for who I am. Everyone here, of course is wonderful and supportive. That doesn't mean that I am not reminded.

Cindi
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Tyran

I voted 'I don't know' because there are days when I wake up and I feel it would just be easier, easier for me to have been born AMAB because I would never have to put my family through all the bull I will eventually put them through, easier because simple things like using the restroom would be less complicated, etc.

However at the same time I appreciate the view of the world the being AFAB has given me. I doubt I would ever have been able to truly understand them on the level I do, I doubt I would care as much about all the inequalities, I doubt I would be able to relate to the simple fears, etc.
So it's really a toss up.
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blink

Absolutely. Sure would make my life less complicated. There are other things I could spend several thousand, potentially upwards of $100,000 on. All the lessons learned stay learned. But, I'd do it even if that weren't the case.
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Futurist

Quote from: Sebby Michelango on January 17, 2016, 01:00:07 PM
When you wake up next day, would you like to wake up as cisgender and be cis rest of your life?
If you could be cisgender when you wake up next day, all the papers, ID and passport match your gender and your family suddenly only remember you as the gender you always have been, would you like it? When you suddenly become cisgender, your body anatomy would suddenly match your gender identity. That would say a trans man becomes a cis-man and a trans woman become a cis-woman.
As a male-leaning genderqueer person (or demi-guy, if you prefer), I would certainly prefer the status quo over either being a (full) cis-man or a cis-woman. However, I would probably prefer be(com)ing a trans-woman to the status quo. Seriously--after all, I certainly cross-dream a lot about me being a trans-woman.
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Futurist

Quote from: blink on January 28, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Absolutely. Sure would make my life less complicated. There are other things I could spend several thousand, potentially upwards of $100,000 on. All the lessons learned stay learned. But, I'd do it even if that weren't the case.
Frankly, if it makes you feel better, I wish that you could have my own testicles. After all, I myself certainly don't want them! :(
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Cathrine

This sounds like what I used to prey for to happen when I was younger.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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Endless Rain

I don't care what my gender is as long as it gets rid of the dysphoria. I'd rather be a cis-woman or a cis-man than be transsexual.
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Futurist

Quote from: Endless Rain on February 03, 2016, 01:23:09 AM
I don't care what my gender is as long as it gets rid of the dysphoria. I'd rather be a cis-woman or a cis-man than be transsexual.
Out of curiosity--do you identify as male, female, or something else?
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Endless Rain

Quote from: Futurist on February 03, 2016, 04:35:48 PM
Out of curiosity--do you identify as male, female, or something else?

This is kind of complicated and I don't care enough to figure it out. I seem to lack a gender identity completely. I didn't care about anything gender related until I started getting body dysphoria after I started growing facial hair. I didn't even realize gender meant anything other than physical characteristics, like I did for eye color or skin color. I've had people consider me an agender transsexual before, but I just find all of this gender identity stuff confusing. All I care about is making the dysphoria go away.
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Stella Sophia

I hate being transgender I absolutely hate it. I wish I could just wake up from this relentless nightmare in the cisgender female body I was meant to have.


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Adchop

If magic were real & I could go to sleep and week up in a cis girl body, I would absolutely do it. I think part of the reason why is that when you are 100% female from the start, there is no transition period, & thus people really don't have much choice than to recognize you as female from the get go.

Part of whats so frightening to me about transition isn't the outcome, but instead the process of getting there. It's a long arduous journey that takes tons of money, patience, & unfortunately sorrow.

Becoming female on day 1 would take much of that away.
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