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My life, past and boyfriend

Started by Cathrine, January 29, 2016, 02:25:38 PM

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Cathrine

Hi!

My main concern right now is about my boyfriend but before I get to that I would like to explain my life situation.

Typing this I'm now 18 years old, 19 in 20-ish days.

I never thought I was any different from anyone else.
I'm transsexual. I knew concretely who I was from about age 7 even though it was noticeable before that.

I got bullied in primary school for having mostly female friends, I got called a female name as a way to be mean to me because I had mostly female friends - even some adults called me that. Then when I moved in 4th grade I still got bullied in that way, but another name - and instead of just having female friends, I just didn't have friends.

From age 7 to 17 I had bad adrenal chords because of the stress caused by the transsexualism. I slept about 14 hours each day, I had daily problems with nausea and diarrhea. I'm not 100% certain if all of it were symptoms of bad adrenals or caused by something else. I had a school attendance of like 15%.

I first started going to doctors because of my transsexualism at age 10/11, but they just checked me for a ton of different mental diseases, which I apparently didn't have. They seemed to do those tests because they didn't really know what to do. I quit going to the doctors about this at age 12 and lied about my transsexualism having "passed" because they didn't help me.

Attending secondary school I started to (the little time I was at school) adjust to societies expectations of me (because by my experience at the time - if you don't you'll get bullied and hit) I controlled how I carried bags, walked, talked, laughed, moved my arms.. you get the point. If you ever feel like having a very masculine way of walking imitating a gorilla is pretty accurate.  Not really, but almost.

Then my life took a positive turn for once, I started getting medical treatment as soon as I turned 18. It still wasn't too late to get good results as I stopped growing at about age 13. I took a year off of any education so I didn't have to confront society whilst going through the process. I got estrogen, testosterone blockers and other medications I needed; And with help of my parents I surgically privately altered some facial bones and vocal chords.

I started school August that year (I have birthday in February). I still didn't look 100% "female" because estrogen does a lot, it moves around fats, makes the pelvis wider and some other bone changes if you're young enough (like it did for me), makes breasts develop obviously - but it takes time. And more than anything (especially during a puberty caused by them) it makes your mood generally unstable and often really crappy.

I moved about 4 hours (with car) away from where my parents lived for that school year. I got some study grants, loans and I rented an apartment. School went Ok even though I still struggled with social anxiety. The anxiety got better as I felt and looked better.

I had the first relationship in my life with a guy that was extremely tall and slim. I traveled to London together with him for a week (for some botox injections on my vocal chords to help rest the voice after surgery) one week after first meeting him, I did that  because my mother threatened to join if I didn't find someone else to, which is the main reason I started to date him in the first place. 
During that week it we went along for about 3 days and then.. I'm sure we both were on the edge of fantasizing about killing each other.

He started complaining about that I didn't like any activities that didn't involve spending money - I just wanted to go shopping and to the theater to see musicals whilst he was more interested in museums and sights (which is something I really don't want to join).

That relationship didn't really last very long. The three last days during my stay in London I didn't sleep in the hotel just to avoid him. I had told him to stay away from me, so I actually went around London on my own (using the subway and the GPS on my phone because I really don't own a sense of direction). I found some London chat on the internet, and from there I met two random guys (kisses, cuddles, expensive wines and free food. Yay! Which is something I actually also got from the guy I had to ditch. I didn't mention my past to the guys I dated in London.)

A few months after that trip London to I found the guy who's my current boyfriend, we live together occasionally.
He's actually a muslim that's grown up in Egypt! He loves me. The only times I see him cry is when I'm sad or I cry. He's a bit homophobic, but he likes me. I was open with before we got together him, I actually explained science behind transsexualism, and my past. I think something that matters a lot to him (even though he hasn't mentioned it) is that my past isn't common knowledge so it doesn't have any social consequences for him, so his family and friends don't have to know. He's about 10 years older than me (because I have a preference for a bit older guys).

My concerns about him is that he gets mad at me if I raise my voice or just softly jokingly slap him (which is made him slap my arm once which really hurt, he's about three times stronger than me.) because it's a disgrace to be raised voice at / hit by women in his culture.

Sometimes if I'm mad at him and I try to go sleep somewhere else to get away, he physically drags me back to bed. If I say no to have sex with him he almost ignores it unless I'm really consistent.
To top it he once had sex with me when I really didn't want to - he held me down so I couldn't move, and I said no about 50 times. That incident almost made him lose me. He was extremely sad about it.

Even after that when he gets mad at me he says loudly to himself that "you shouldn't hit women" the thought that he actually thinks about hitting me really scares me. He hit my arm once so I don't know what could happen if he just loses it like he did when he raped me. I'm scared. But I REALLY want the relationship to work. I love him. He loves me. I don't doubt it. I just don't know what to do.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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Angélique LaCava

Must be Nice, I wish I had a bf to do all that lovey dovey stuff with. Unfortunately I can't find a guy who wants anything more than a sexual relationship. Consider urself lucky but sorry bout the whole rape incident.
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stephaniec

personally I would of said goodbye
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JLT1

I would have said goodbye as well.  I've heard this before with cis women.  Rarely does it turn out well. 

If it happens again, you should probably leave. 

I'm sorry to say that....

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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itsApril

Wow, I've gotta say what you're talking about sounds a lot like me in my early to mid 20s, pre-transition.  Most people would have considered me gay at that time, though inwardly I felt female.  You're a lot farther along in transition now than I was then, though I often crossdressed and dated and had sex with men at that time.

Looking back, I accepted a lot of things that I now think were abusive.  Guys sometimes slapped or struck me, and once I was seriously beaten by a drunk guy.  I often felt coerced into sex that I wouldn't have chosen to engage in.  I was raped once.

Since then I have transitioned pretty completely to female, and a lot has changed about my outlook.  Looking back on when this stuff was happening to me, a lot of my behavior was caused by low self-esteem.  Like everybody, I wanted to feel loved and desired.  But at the time I felt like I was some kind of pervert or freak who didn't deserve it.  I also really wanted sex, as much because I was seeking personal validation as because of straightforward desire.  This made me a target of guys who really took advantage of me at the time.  I used to feel pathetically grateful that a man would ask me out, or spend money on me.  That felt like I was being valued, when it often just meant that I was being bought.

Gender transition was a big step in the right direction for me.  I made peace with my female self and let her take over.  Today, I would never put up with the same kind of abuse from a man.  I'm still physically attracted to men and love having sex with them.  But I've turned out to be pretty independent person.  I can take guys or leave them.  I don't let them get inside my head, and I don't let them push me around.

Looking at what you've written through the eyes of my 25-year-old self, I'd say, "life is tough, but that's just how it is."  Looking at it as my 34-year-old fully female self, I see all sorts of red flags in what you have written.

I'm concerned that he slapped you.  But the fact that he forced you to have sex when you told him "no" is a giant red flag in this relationship.  I understand that he felt bad about it afterwards.  But that doesn't make it any better.  Abusive relationships often settle into a repeating cycle: tension, violence, repentance, "honeymoon," tension, violence . . . over and over again.  Cis-women experience this just like we may.  The cycle usually doesn't get better.  Often, it gets worse as it repeats over and over.  Too often it ends up with a woman (whether cis- or trans- makes no difference) dead at the hands of an abusive lover/husband.

You're still young and have a long life ahead of you.  As time goes by, the hormones will further feminize you and your increasing experience presenting as female will give you increasing confidence in your command of the female role.  Time is on your side.  You're going to become more comfortable in your female skin and therefore more attractive as time moves forward.

I say that, because I fear that you may be staying with this guy because you worry that he's the best you'll ever get, and that if you leave him there may not be anybody else.  But he's not the best you'll get.  Don't sell yourself short.
-April
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Cathrine

Hi @itsApril . Thank you for your response!

I look okey now, much more than I did a while ago. I look female. That's not a problem.

I stay with him because I love him.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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stephaniec

You have your own life to live and obviously you are free to do what you want. Take no offense please , but a lot of woman who say they stay with someone because they love them end up in the hospital or worse.
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Wild Flower

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on January 29, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
Must be Nice, I wish I had a bf to do all that lovey dovey stuff with. Unfortunately I can't find a guy who wants anything more than a sexual relationship. Consider urself lucky but sorry bout the whole rape incident.

Why did I had the same thought???????????


We need to get out here lol!!! nothing in the french quarter lol
"Anyone who believes what a cat tells him deserves all he gets."
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lostcharlie

RUN !!!! Run fast run far. don't care what this jerk tells you he doesn't love you. honestly this is the kind of "relationship" were YOU end up DEAD. did I already say RUN.......
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Cathrine

Quote from: lostcharlie on January 29, 2016, 08:53:59 PM
RUN !!!! Run fast run far. don't care what this jerk tells you he doesn't love you. honestly this is the kind of "relationship" were YOU end up DEAD. did I already say RUN.......

I don't know, if I ever appear sad it's like a physical pain for him.
He literally gives me everything.

The problem is his culture sometimes.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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stephaniec

If your being abused it's not going to stop.
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Cathrine

Quote from: stephaniec on January 30, 2016, 01:01:53 AM
If your being abused it's not going to stop.

I talked to some specialist on the field, and they thought - in my case it might help to try to improve communication so he better understands what hurts me.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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cheryl reeves

#12
He is not going to change. If I was you I would wait til he's elsewhere and flee, I would never allow anyone too do that to me period,if they tried they would die a horrible death. I may be trans but that doesn't mean I'm weak.

Mod edit: keep the Muslim bashing to yourself.
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Cathrine

Quote from: cheryl reeves on January 30, 2016, 01:33:53 AM
He is not going to change. If I was you I would wait til he's elsewhere and flee, I would never allow anyone too do that to me period,if they tried they would die a horrible death. I may be trans but that doesn't mean I'm weak.

Mod edit: keep the Muslim bashing to yourself.

Usually he treats me very well and gives me everything.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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lostcharlie

Quit making excuses for this jerks behavior. It's not cultural. Don't care if he's usually nice to you. Don't care if he gives you everything. You are describing the behavior of serial killers and men who murder their wife of girlfriend and throws their cut up body parts along the highway. How do I know this you ask ? I had a previous career in the criminal justice system and dealt with these butchers everyday. If you stay with this dude you WILL be abused and raped on a regular basis and one day you will do something that triggers him and YOU WILL END UP DEAD!
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Susan Baum

But I Love him. 


I am sure you think you do. In my past life as an emergency EMS responder, I heard those words from an untold number of battered, beaten, bruised (and even more severely injured) women twice, three or more times. These women were young and old, highly educated and not so much, wealthy and poor. 

If you are at all in fear of another incident, do yourself a favor and contact the nearest battered women's center for information, help and solace. You deserve better than to live in fear of another outburst.

Susan
Aging is inevitable - growing up is optional.
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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. My roommate of 30 years had a temper much like that. Much of it was caused by her living with being transsexual but some of it was from her family. We were not emotionally close and I had my own space when an outburst occurred. In addition, I was emotionally strong enough to deal with it. It took years for her to gain control over the temper and the deal breaker would have been if she ever struck me as she was far stronger than I was.

You should very carefully evaluate this relationship because unless he starts to make a real effort to control the outburst, both your physical and mental health are at risk. The homes for battered women are full of women who loved their boy friend/husband and stayed with them through this type of treatment before it broke them.

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Cathrine

Quote from: Dena on January 30, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
Welcome to Susan's Place. My roommate of 30 years had a temper much like that. Much of it was caused by her living with being transsexual but some of it was from her family. We were not emotionally close and I had my own space when an outburst occurred. In addition, I was emotionally strong enough to deal with it. It took years for her to gain control over the temper and the deal breaker would have been if she ever struck me as she was far stronger than I was.

You should very carefully evaluate this relationship because unless he starts to make a real effort to control the outburst, both your physical and mental health are at risk. The homes for battered women are full of women who loved their boy friend/husband and stayed with them through this type of treatment before it broke them.


It's not like violent outbursts, it's just something that happened and most of the time we go very well along. I've been talking to him, and I try to improve our communication so he understands how things are for me. He's very sorry about hurting me and it won't happen again.
Some aspects of the way he treats me is something he culturally or religiously believes in, and if he believes in them he defends his beliefs. If he realizes what he did was wrong he apologizes.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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stephaniec

so not to sound cruel or uncaring , what your saying that if God is telling him to abuse you it's ok you can deal with it, I don't know the person so I reaslly can't say what's going on , but to say he won't doing again and is sorry is the typical behavior of an abuser.
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Cathrine

Quote from: stephaniec on January 30, 2016, 01:09:09 PM
so not to sound cruel or uncaring , what your saying that if God is telling him to abuse you it's ok you can deal with it, I don't know the person so I reaslly can't say what's going on , but to say he won't doing again and is sorry is the typical behavior of an abuser.

I think it would have been worse if he said that he would do it again. I don't think he will though.
"Cheese doodles made with real cheese." The thought of fake-cheese doodles scares me  :(
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