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Started by sakuranbo, October 10, 2007, 06:12:55 PM

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sakuranbo

Yeah I'm a MTF, so I'v just started my HRT yesterday which is great. But I've gotta go "undecover" for 1.5 years because there are some conservative people in my school and I dont wanna get picked by them, this is my second last year in high school, getting sweet grades. I plan to be in full time when I attend university. So ive gotta be prepared when my breast grows to a noticeble size. And especially during summer, that would be a nightmare. How does binding affect your breast growth? And if anyone have simular expierences or have any advices please leave a comment thx. ;)


sakuranbo
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gothique11

Well, binding growing breasts isn't a good idea.

Why are you starting HRT if you want to hide?

I think that it would be hard to hide for a year and a half. Besides breasts, your face and body will change and you will change mentally. I don't know of a lot of people who have lasted too long on HRT without people noticing that something is up.

And there is one more thing: conservative people are all over. Don't live a life of fear because of them; don't give your power to them by being who they expect you to be. Living in fear is no way to live.

Why do you wan to take HRT if you only want to hide yourself for so long? Are you talking to a therapist and doctor about your HRT and plans?
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kalt

One: wear exceedingly baggy clothing.
Two: wear hoodies, baggy hoodies.  Even in summer.
Three: wear more than one shirt.  baggy shirts.
Four: try to dress like a black gang banger.  baggy.  baggy. 
Five:  I don't know if I mentioned it, but baggy clothes could save you from hate crimes.

:-)

Six: working out won't be detrimental to your form.  In fact, lower bodybuilding(leg training) helps balances out the weight from upper body to lower body.  A bigger chest CAN possible help provide an excuse for the boobs.  Despite what other members say, I close to live in the gyms and I know plenty of guys with saggy boobs that jiggle, but it's all muscle seeingas they bench in the 400 range.
A muscular chest will not effect breast growth.  It will however, give you an excuse for boobs. "dude, I bench 225, of COURSE I gots boobies."
If you'd like some excellent advice on working out to match a MtF regimen, ask me.  I need to write up a memo/FAQ and post it on here.
Seven: Wear something thick and form hugging underneath your BAGGY clothes, like a thick vest.  This will add size to your shoulders and waist, making whatever breast development much less prominent.

As far as your hair and other appearances you have two choices: attempt your best at not being noticed whatsoever, or just deal with what people can think.  Not many people can suspect something as far out as transsexualism and hormone therapy, so if you look like a girl you might be suspected of being gay but not of pursuing being female.
You can choose to keep your eyebrows bushy, hair short, face unshaved, or you can gradually start tweezing your eyebrows, shaving, and doing everything you can now to get into the feminine hygiene routine.
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shanetastic

Quote from: kalt on October 10, 2007, 09:07:37 PM
One: wear exceedingly baggy clothing.
Two: wear hoodies, baggy hoodies.  Even in summer.
Three: wear more than one shirt.  baggy shirts.
Four: try to dress like a black gang banger.  baggy.  baggy. 
Five:  I don't know if I mentioned it, but baggy clothes could save you from hate crimes.

:-)

Six: working out won't be detrimental to your form.  In fact, lower bodybuilding(leg training) helps balances out the weight from upper body to lower body.  A bigger chest CAN possible help provide an excuse for the boobs.  Despite what other members say, I close to live in the gyms and I know plenty of guys with saggy boobs that jiggle, but it's all muscle seeingas they bench in the 400 range.
A muscular chest will not effect breast growth.  It will however, give you an excuse for boobs. "dude, I bench 225, of COURSE I gots boobies."
If you'd like some excellent advice on working out to match a MtF regimen, ask me.  I need to write up a memo/FAQ and post it on here.
Seven: Wear something thick and form hugging underneath your BAGGY clothes, like a thick vest.  This will add size to your shoulders and waist, making whatever breast development much less prominent.

As far as your hair and other appearances you have two choices: attempt your best at not being noticed whatsoever, or just deal with what people can think.  Not many people can suspect something as far out as transsexualism and hormone therapy, so if you look like a girl you might be suspected of being gay but not of pursuing being female.
You can choose to keep your eyebrows bushy, hair short, face unshaved, or you can gradually start tweezing your eyebrows, shaving, and doing everything you can now to get into the feminine hygiene routine.

Haha during my huge denial days I used to go to the gym Kalt.  I benched 130 when I quit!!! I got up to my weight YAY!!! Haha.  Then I got made fun of too much so I quit :P
trying to live life one day at a time
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J.T.

best not to bind... yeah you can go the baggy route.  i did the sports bra, two t-shirts, and a sweatshirt route.
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kalt

Quote from: shanetastic on October 10, 2007, 10:20:32 PM
Haha during my huge denial days I used to go to the gym Kalt.  I benched 130 when I quit!!! I got up to my weight YAY!!! Haha.  Then I got made fun of too much so I quit :P
Wow.
130.
>.<

Hehehe, everyone is so crazy about bench!  As soon as someone sees you they're like, "yo, how much you bench?"
You don't ever get asked, "yo, how much you snatch, how much yo squat, what's your 3 mile run?   what's yo military? how many pullups ya do bro?"
Always about bench...men care about their boobs as much as we do.  Srsly.
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seldom

Word of advice.  HRT acts quickly usually at a young age, not for everybody, but for some.  You may not be able to hide this in a few months no matter if you bind or do not because your face will change. 
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kalt

Quote from: Amy T. on October 11, 2007, 10:18:25 AM
Word of advice.  HRT acts quickly usually at a young age, not for everybody, but for some.  You may not be able to hide this in a few months no matter if you bind or do not because your face will change. 
Grow hair.
Brush hair in face.
Learn to see through hair.
Problem solved:-)
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seldom

sorry it doesn't work that well if you have a fundimentally feminine face.  If you look like a girl there is no getting around it.  Especially if you have long hair.  Then there gets to the point that HRT starts to effect you in ways were guys clothing starts looking silly.  I could go on, but hiding these things are not always easy Kalt.  If she is 130 as she suggests it will be REALLY hard to hide any changes.
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gothique11

I agree with Amy about the face. Also, being female is more than looks! HRT isn't just a physical change, and you will change mentally. HRT affects the brain. And no matter how male you try to look, the feminine is going to come out after several months. Girls will probably notice first, and then guys (they will probably just think your gay, and then beat you up for that, too).

I know too many people who decided to go on HRT thinking they could hide things just to find out that they couldn't. People notice. Your body changes, your mental changes, and even the way you smell. Believe it or not, people are going to pick up on your smell and realize something is going on. I have one friend who just started HRT a few weeks ago and isn't full time, going in boy mode at work -- people keep looking at her weird, noticing that there is something different about her.

But yeah, you can try the baggy thing and all of that for a year and a half. It's going to be very hard. And as you go along you'll keep waking up in the morning wondering why you're living your life for everyone else and yearning to be the woman you are. HRT doesn't help you hide. HRT will only make you want to come out faster. And honestly, bad people will be their after you graduate and for the rest of your life. Do you want to live your life in fear of them and give them that kind of power? Or do you want to take control of your life and be all that you can be?

It's really upto you, and it's your life. Talk to a doctor/therapist about this and your hormones. Consider other options of you choose HRT (like another school, etc). If you feel that you can get away with things with baggy clothes, emo hair, and facial hair, and being someone you're not, go for it. It's up to you to decide what you will do. I have my opinions, but those are just my opinions -- it's up to you, not me.

Good luck in what ever you choose,


--natalie :)
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Keira

At that age and with your frame, I think no matter how baggy your clothes are, your face and the rest, will look very female inside 6 months unless you've got a serious beard or moustache already going on (that's the only thing that could "save" you.

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LostInTime

When I started to get noticeable I wore a bra and then a tight sports bra. After that I did layers. It is amazing what people will not notice if you put even a flimsy covering on. I was known for a leather vest but also wore button down shirts, unbuttoned and not tucked in. Tight=bad

If you are doing sports, you will probably get noticed. I took a few hits to the boobs in a martial arts class and was grabbed there by mistake as well. No one ever said anything though. With an ace bandage you can claim some sort of injury.

Be careful with binding though as it will eventually destroy the support infrastructure for your boobs and that does not look attractive (altho YMMV on that point).
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kalt

Quote from: Amy T. on October 11, 2007, 11:49:54 AM
sorry it doesn't work that well if you have a fundimentally feminine face.  If you look like a girl there is no getting around it.  Especially if you have long hair.  Then there gets to the point that HRT starts to effect you in ways were guys clothing starts looking silly.  I could go on, but hiding these things are not always easy Kalt.  If she is 130 as she suggests it will be REALLY hard to hide any changes.
Not really.
I mean seriously, there's plenty of feminine guys and there's plenty of butch girls.
I don't think anyone but someone currently on HRT would start suspecting others of being on HRT based off of not fitting into gender stereotypes.
If she can hide her budding breasts, then that's all she should be worried about.
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shanetastic

Quote from: kalt on October 11, 2007, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: Amy T. on October 11, 2007, 11:49:54 AM
sorry it doesn't work that well if you have a fundimentally feminine face.  If you look like a girl there is no getting around it.  Especially if you have long hair.  Then there gets to the point that HRT starts to effect you in ways were guys clothing starts looking silly.  I could go on, but hiding these things are not always easy Kalt.  If she is 130 as she suggests it will be REALLY hard to hide any changes.
Not really.
I mean seriously, there's plenty of feminine guys and there's plenty of butch girls.
I don't think anyone but someone currently on HRT would start suspecting others of being on HRT based off of not fitting into gender stereotypes.
If she can hide her budding breasts, then that's all she should be worried about.

What if she's young enough to where she grows some rather large breasts and isn't going to be able to hide it.  You can always postpone transition since you don't seem like you want to go through with it for the time being.  Or just do anti-androgens until you want to continue further.
trying to live life one day at a time
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seldom

Quote from: kalt on October 11, 2007, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: Amy T. on October 11, 2007, 11:49:54 AM
sorry it doesn't work that well if you have a fundimentally feminine face.  If you look like a girl there is no getting around it.  Especially if you have long hair.  Then there gets to the point that HRT starts to effect you in ways were guys clothing starts looking silly.  I could go on, but hiding these things are not always easy Kalt.  If she is 130 as she suggests it will be REALLY hard to hide any changes.
Not really.
I mean seriously, there's plenty of feminine guys and there's plenty of butch girls.
I don't think anyone but someone currently on HRT would start suspecting others of being on HRT based off of not fitting into gender stereotypes.
If she can hide her budding breasts, then that's all she should be worried about.

Except budding is kind of an off base term Kalt.  As much as I hate to say this, you are pretty misinformed about how easy it is to hide when you are young.  I was having problems hiding things two months into a low dose of HRT at 29.

How fast or slow HRT works will not be up to her.  It can work very very quicly, and  I have seen it with people in their teens, especially of her frame.  I have seen the opposite as well.
The point being is she be prepared as if it were to ask fast, anything else would be naive, and dangerous. 
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sakuranbo

Quote from: shanetastic on October 11, 2007, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: kalt on October 11, 2007, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: Amy T. on October 11, 2007, 11:49:54 AM
sorry it doesn't work that well if you have a fundimentally feminine face.  If you look like a girl there is no getting around it.  Especially if you have long hair.  Then there gets to the point that HRT starts to effect you in ways were guys clothing starts looking silly.  I could go on, but hiding these things are not always easy Kalt.  If she is 130 as she suggests it will be REALLY hard to hide any changes.
Not really.
I mean seriously, there's plenty of feminine guys and there's plenty of butch girls.
I don't think anyone but someone currently on HRT would start suspecting others of being on HRT based off of not fitting into gender stereotypes.
If she can hide her budding breasts, then that's all she should be worried about.

What if she's young enough to where she grows some rather large breasts and isn't going to be able to hide it.  You can always postpone transition since you don't seem like you want to go through with it for the time being.  Or just do anti-androgens until you want to continue further.
But i've seen in somewhere you'll get osteoporosis if you have no hormones in your body, but i really gotta stop these T form "damaging" my body further. I've seen some really feminine boys at my age, so I think I should pass if I find a way to hide my boobs, I'll try the baggy clothes method. By the way how does your face changes when you have been on HRT long enough? Anyways thanks for the suggestions of how I should dress ;)
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Keira


The front cheeks really beef up and all the fat below the jaw line disapeers.
The skin texture, pore size and color, changes a lot, which alone makes you look female.

Within 3 months you will see what I'm talking about.

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Lori

Quote from: sakuranbo on October 10, 2007, 06:12:55 PM
Yeah I'm a MTF, so I'v just started my HRT yesterday which is great. But I've gotta go "undecover" for 1.5 years because there are some conservative people in my school and I dont wanna get picked by them, this is my second last year in high school, getting sweet grades. I plan to be in full time when I attend university. So ive gotta be prepared when my breast grows to a noticeble size. And especially during summer, that would be a nightmare. How does binding affect your breast growth? And if anyone have simular expierences or have any advices please leave a comment thx. ;)


sakuranbo

I just started my fith month and I started wearing a sports bra two days ago. I am by no means out and at 39 I'm not to worried about changing too fast. I plan to cacoon this winter and emerge this spring as ...something else?? :icon_yikes:
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shanetastic

Quote from: Keira on October 11, 2007, 05:27:17 PM

The front cheeks really beef up and all the fat below the jaw line disapeers.
The skin texture, pore size and color, changes a lot, which alone makes you look female.

Within 3 months you will see what I'm talking about.



I'm at a month and a half in!  I don't see any facial changes yet.  But I guess that's because I have another one and a half to go hehe. 
trying to live life one day at a time
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kalt

Quote from: shanetastic on October 11, 2007, 03:57:34 PM
What if she's young enough to where she grows some rather large breasts and isn't going to be able to hide it.  You can always postpone transition since you don't seem like you want to go through with it for the time being.  Or just do anti-androgens until you want to continue further.
Highly unlikely.
And if that does happen, there's a program most public schools endorse called, "home bound."
It's for students who have medical issues making them incapable of attending school.
I was on it for a long time because of mental health.  I didn't feel like going to school with scars and cuts all over my wrists.
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