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Started by Tristyn, February 26, 2016, 01:30:18 PM

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Tristyn

I dunno. I just get pissed off coming on here sometimes constantly talking about the same things over and over. I am thinking about having my account deleted. At first I really wanted to meet other trans people but now I don't cause it would be so awkward since I am the only person I know like me. Talking about gender all the time pisses me off. Sorry for this useless rant that probably won't get any replies anyways.


-Phoenix
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Mariah

Never be sorry. It's not a useless rant. I can  totally understand and it is your call. Although I might recommend that you leave the account open in case you decide to come back eventually. Regardless good luck and Hugs
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Mariah

King Phoenix, I forgot to mention this, but it is important to note. Each of us is unique and different. None of us are exactly like another. It's those differences and diversity that make this community special. You are more than welcome to always stay. Hugs
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Tristyn

I got jealousy problems too. I am such a heartless, jealous and wicked human being that I can't stand to see other trans people doing much better than me. I wish I never felt these feelings but I can't help it. I cannot understand why they have friends and lovers even before transitioning and got the nerve to talk about how hard their life is. I ain't got no one but yet I want to stay by myself. Coming here isn't getting me anywhere. I hate myself for this jealousy towards things I do not want yet wish I had. A contradiction.

I despise men, both cis and trans. I never want them laying a finger on me. I can't trust anyone. I'm paranoid all the time. This is no way to live but I never asked to be born anyway.  Coming here was nice while it lasted though. I guess.

Thanks for the support everyone. Not sure I'll ever come back. Probably better that way.
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Elis

I can't help being jealous too. I don't understand how other trans people manage to have friends and relationships with all the dysphoria they go through. I can't say two words to someone I don't know. I think we're sort of similar. Social anxiety problems and family members who just don't get it. Plus no one at all to talk too. I haven't got anywhere else to go so I may as well stay.
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FTMax

There have been times where I've taken a vacation from Susan's. But at the end of the day, I'm glad for the company, for the resources, and for the incredible amount of experience that our forum members have and are willing to share. Especially while I'm still medically transitioning, the benefit of having all of these folks at my disposal is huge. And of course, I'm also able to offer help and my experience to new folks and other people with questions. For every question I've ever asked, I hope I'm able to answer twice as many.

I think the issue a lot of people have when they think they want to start socializing more with other trans people, is when they realize that being trans is only a small part of who someone is. Just like cis people, trans folks all have different personalities, likes, dislikes, hobbies, etc. It's nice when things overlap and I meet other transguys who have similar hobbies or live nearby, but it's a rarity. Think of it this way - would you go out of your way to befriend someone just because they were the same ethnicity as you? Probably not. Socializing with anyone is much easier and more meaningful when you have something in common to bond over that you've chosen to enjoy.

Maybe consider commenting in some threads that don't pertain to gender. We do have several hobby boards. You could also just take a break and come back when you need to talk. I wouldn't recommend putting your account up for deletion.
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Mariah

When I first came her King Phoenix I was jealous of others too and sometimes still am.They were on hormones and I wasn't. They had there surgery, I haven't. The list goes on and on. It's perfectly normal to be jealous. Your not the only one. It's a very common regardless of if a person is trans or not. I know your lonely and feel on the outside of things and I hope things change around for you so you have others around you were you live. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: King Phoenix on February 26, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
I got jealousy problems too. I am such a heartless, jealous and wicked human being that I can't stand to see other trans people doing much better than me. I wish I never felt these feelings but I can't help it. I cannot understand why they have friends and lovers even before transitioning and got the nerve to talk about how hard their life is. I ain't got no one but yet I want to stay by myself. Coming here isn't getting me anywhere. I hate myself for this jealousy towards things I do not want yet wish I had. A contradiction.

I despise men, both cis and trans. I never want them laying a finger on me. I can't trust anyone. I'm paranoid all the time. This is no way to live but I never asked to be born anyway.  Coming here was nice while it lasted though. I guess.

Thanks for the support everyone. Not sure I'll ever come back. Probably better that way.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.
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stephaniec

there is also the matter that not everyone tells about all the pain.
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janetcgtv

King Phoenix:

Living alone is NOT a good decision. I know that for a fact.
Everyone gets frustrated and angry and jealous.
Just be permanent sick like I can't have even  have an orchi because I am on blood thinner because of DVT.
If I have could have one, I have to be on hormones so I don't get a hunched back. Estrogen goes contra against DVT(deep vein Thrombosis) and testosterone would go against having an orchie in the first place.

Please stay here as you can vent out your frustrations and have the wonderful support you get from here.

Please remember everyone is different that's why we have diversity

PS I'm white but my best friends(Women) are Mexican and I don't speak Spanish.

Bye for now,

Janet
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autumn08

Hi Phoenix,


1) When you feel exhausted from writing about gender issues, write about something else or do something else.

2) Could you tell me some of your interests, so in order to not feel as lonely, I could help you find a group.

3) There is nothing wrong with feeling envious, as the way we perceive ourselves is relative to our environment. In order to alleviate your envy, focus on productive action.

4) Have you ever spoken with a mental health expert about bipolar disorder?
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Kylo

Quote from: King Phoenix on February 26, 2016, 01:37:26 PM
I got jealousy problems too. I am such a heartless, jealous and wicked human being that I can't stand to see other trans people doing much better than me. I wish I never felt these feelings but I can't help it. I cannot understand why they have friends and lovers even before transitioning and got the nerve to talk about how hard their life is. I ain't got no one but yet I want to stay by myself. Coming here isn't getting me anywhere. I hate myself for this jealousy towards things I do not want yet wish I had. A contradiction.

I despise men, both cis and trans. I never want them laying a finger on me. I can't trust anyone. I'm paranoid all the time. This is no way to live but I never asked to be born anyway.  Coming here was nice while it lasted though. I guess.

Thanks for the support everyone. Not sure I'll ever come back. Probably better that way.

How do you know they're doing better than you? How do you know they're not smiling in their pictures but crying themselves to sleep at night? It seems like people are doing better than you because I often feel that myself but I also know that's crap. I don't know how many times I've heard friends or family talk about how great everything is for them and then the next thing is they're breaking down over some huge problem or other they'd been dealing with alone and in secret. I thought my best friend was enjoying being an aspiring writer but it turned out he was slowly killing himself with alcoholism because caring for his crazy mother was doing him in. I thought my aunt and uncle has the perfect marriage but it turns out they barely speak to one another. I thought my sister was doing well but turns out she's in massive debt. There's always more to the story than you might at first think - people often put on happy faces!

As for those of us who had lovers and friends before, you think that wasn't difficult? It was hell to try to build a love life whilst also being trans and hell to break someone's heart over it. Have the nerve to talk about hard their life is? If they're trans it probably is hard - I know mine is. People may make it seem easy because it's easy to write a few sentences that pare it all down to something simple that someone will have the patience to read - shouldn't assume so much about people.

If you actually want someone to share your life with you then you need to drop some of the attitude. It's hard to tell what you want if you say you want what other people have but then you don't want anybody, don't trust anybody, and despise people. You want what others seem to have have? Then you have to sort yourself first, man, and play the game. You have to change if you want something, the world isn't going to change for you or hand everything over on a plate.

If you construed what I said in that other thread about never being short of friends or people who were interested as it being "easy" for me, it wasn't. It's because I tried my ass off to be a better person. Despite the distrust, anger, shame and disgust that I feel inside. 100% Every day, try and try again.

"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Laura_7


*hugs*

Just feel yourself hugged...

well sometimes its necessary to leave the PC and go out and do a few things...

so you might keep an eye on that ... doing something in the world and doing a few things on the PC...

its not necessary to delete or to leave ... just simply trying to solve a few things, not only talking about it...

well next don't beat yourself down...
you have the capacity to be a nice person...

this is also the core of being jealous imo...
you have the capacity to be what you are jealous of ...
so don't be, strive a bit to get there and eventually you will reach it.
There is a moment for everyone, it sometimes takes a bit of time and effort.
But its possible to get there, with tenacity.

If you want to PM you are welcome.

Wish you a nice time in the meantime...

*hugs*
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JenniferLopezgomez

Trans people are people just like people in general. It is a strong bond often, but sometimes jealousy and attacks develop between trans people. When I first was coming out it was mostly online I found other trans people. So I wanted to meet as many trans people in person as possible. When I finally developed the contacts and knowledge to finally meet hundreds of trans girls in person, some have resulted in great friendships that continue to now. Other relationships haven't worked out for various reasons as one would expect when dealing with other human beings, trans or cis. The reasons for this have been varied -- sometimes someone is jealous of me, sometimes they don't like  my manner of female dressing, or claim I don't pass well enough even though I have been a Contestant in a nationwide Pageant, or some other aspect of how I choose to conduct my life. You might be sensing some of this online in this or other groups you might be a member.  I recommend seeking associating with those in the trans world who accept you for who you are. You can certainly compatible people in THIS group, as you can find compatible people in other groups. Depending on which country or region in which you live, it is possible there are trans support groups in person face-to-face you can seek compatible people for YOU.  :)

I was somewhat dismayed and even depressed when my idealized version of meeting other trans girls online and in  person was met sometimes with disappointment when someone verbally attacked me. But true friends will stand by you always. So now I have a more realistic attitude about my interactions with other trans girls both online and in person. Simply disregard those who you don't feel comfortable with or don't treat you with respect. And have as great friends fellow trans ladies who stand by you and respect you even if they don't also agree with every aspect of how you conduct your life. Hope all works out for you. :)
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cindianna_jones

King Phoenix,

I think you can see that people here do care enough about you to respond. No matter what is going on in your life, we are supportive of your decisions. Just remember that if you are having a tough time, please let us know. Okay?

Cindi
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Tristyn

Quote from: Elis on February 26, 2016, 01:42:13 PM
I can't help being jealous too. I don't understand how other trans people manage to have friends and relationships with all the dysphoria they go through. I can't say two words to someone I don't know. I think we're sort of similar. Social anxiety problems and family members who just don't get it. Plus no one at all to talk too. I haven't got anywhere else to go so I may as well stay.

Yeah, Elis. I know how ya feel, man. Seem like other trans people can talk, make friends and relationships without so much of a stutter. I feel anxious even just from talking online sometimes. I spend more time talking to myself than anyone else. I might as well be a ghost.

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SueNZ

Quote from: King Phoenix on March 04, 2016, 03:12:19 PM
Yeah, Elis. I know how ya feel, man. Seem like other trans people can talk, make friends and relationships without so much of a stutter. I feel anxious even just from talking online sometimes. I spend more time talking to myself than anyone else. I might as well be a ghost.
Hi King Phoenix,
I agree with a lot of the opinions here about staying and you should. If you need a break just don't log on but when you may need all of the varied opinions just hop back in.
I also highly agree with T.K.G.W. From the outside looking in others always seem to be doing better or look better or have more. I try to show a positive side but battle insecurity, low self esteem and massive jealousy. Your posts show a massive awareness of the world and its barriers. It is up to you to tackle these in your own way and as you do, please put your successes in here as there are those that visit but don't have your strength to post or interact.
I envy you with your ability to say it how it is, it's a great honest trait.
Please stick around as you raise some awesome topics that have helped me see a different angle on where we all are.

Treat life's difficult times as if they are normal moments, this makes the normal and special ones even more fantastic.
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leacobb

Hello king Phoenix, I know how hard it can be sometimes. Looking at other people and saying to oneself why can't I have that, do that, life that. And it can eat away at you.. I grew up with loads of friends then when I told them I was transgendered. They ganged up on me and made me suffer... I was sent to hospital... I was isolated for years because I couldn't trust people.. And I even lost my job because of these reasons.... Now 6 years later I do have a partner and now a life.. I had to work so hard emotionally and physically for this.. And now I'm proud of what I have got...

I guess what I'm saying is that life can knock you down. Very badly but if you work hard you too will get what you want.. Take care and I wish you all the best xxx

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Tristyn

I think I went off my medications around when I made this post. I had to go in the hospital last weekend. I'm taking something else now and even though I feel stable mentally I do feel physically awful like all the time and I can hardly sleep. Seems like there is a trade off for everything.

But I still feel anxious. I guess that's never going away.
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Midnightstar

When i first came here i thought the same thing that i spoke about to much over and over
some people got tired of it and others stuck beside me and put up with it. But i think its normal
to doubt, to question to debate yourself for months years as long as it takes you.
I came to learn something about many places many people and many websites you have to be you speak as you and know when you need to take a break sometimes backing away even when you don't want to back away will be something that'll help you clam down. Balance it out someday's speak about it some days don't make sure you vent but also make sure you don't overwhelm and upset yourself.
it's about you remember that, it's your health. Do what you feel is needed i think that is important.
And if in the end you think it isn't working find away around it or find someplace that makes you happier
that's what matters. And i learned that the hard way but iv'e always learned things the hard way..
it gets better.
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IdontEven

Hey, I'm sorry things are so rough for you, but I'm glad you're out of the hospital.

While I don't have everything figured out, drugs are something I feel I'm pretty good at. I'm going to offer up some of the lessons I've learned, but if you feel they don't apply to you or you weren't looking for advice on this subject then I'm sorry, just ignore me.

But I'm assuming a psychiatrist is prescribing whatever you're on, and not just a general practitioner? If not, that's where you should be going. GP's are pretty clueless, in my experience. Mine leaves the room to google it every time I ask a question :/

Once you've got a psych, if you don't already, come up with a list of symptoms you're trying to address and ask them to recommend as many different things to help those symptoms as possible. Write down the names of any drugs they recommend. Then go home and look up each of the drugs on wikipedia or wherever else. Consider if you're prone to certain types of side effects, or if you tend to be sensitive to all of them like me, and decide on each drug on a case by case basis.

If the side effects are acceptable, check out how long the drugs have been around. Try to avoid brand new drugs that just hit the market in the last few years if you can, though sometimes you just can't. The longer the drug has been on the market the better. If something has the potential for addiction or interacts with other drugs or alcohol in a dangerous way you should probably stay away from it if you can help it.

If you start something on a trial period, keep an eye on exactly what it's doing to you. You might even consider starting a journal of how you feel, mentally and physically, to more accurately track the changes. If you don't like what it's doing then talk to them about tweaking the dose to minimize side effects or coming off of it and going to the next thing. Always start on a low dose of whatever it is. You can increase it later, with their supervision.

Psychiatrists are legalized drug pushers, nothing more. Don't take something just because they recommend it, try to objectively weigh if it will do any good versus the potential for harm it brings.

Your anxiety can be controlled with medication. And so can your insomnia. I take stuff for both of those things, but it took forever to get those two problems even somewhat under control. I used to just take whatever the psych recommended and then react horribly to it because it wasn't right for me. I stopped taking anything at all for years, and just lived with the symptoms. But these aren't things you have to live with, it just takes using your psych as the tool they are.

Be careful with things to help you sleep though, they tend to be very dangerous. The stuff I take every night so that I can calm down enough to sleep has no potential for addiction and is pretty much impossible to OD on. Try to find things like that if you can. Before I got this prescription I'd be up for 24+ hours a lot and could never keep steady, normal person hours. Now I go to sleep every night no matter how bad my day was or how much I have to worry about. It makes all the difference in the world for my ability to function in the day to day.

Anyway, I hope this advice is somewhat useful, and that I'll continue seeing you around the forums. You have a really interesting perspective on things :)

Be well.
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All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
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