SRS/GRS the propriety method hype

[warlockmaker]

Before srs I assume we all check out the surgery in detail. For those of us who check it out I wonder why more don't question some surgeons who claim they don't do a penile inversion technique simply because they use the scrotal skin for the vaginas depth. Today all surgeons use the scrotal skin for vagina depth.. to do this they have to have a very effective method to scrape off the hair follicles. For many this is their propriety method.. this would include propriety methods that now all surgeons use including use of all the different parts of the penis ...in Thailand all the top ones have their so called propriety method and they all seem to be excellent. To keep any secret for a long time would require them to keep their operating room staff to a minimum ...at the expense of the patient who has to be under GA for much longer.

What makes an srs or GRS surgeon good is practice and the best ones have lots of it. They all have excellent aesthetics and functionality. There seems to be a surge in SRS globally as the world awakens to us.

[AnonyMs]

Another new photo... did you just get younger?

I don't think its really possible to evaluate surgeons in a rigorous way. You really need to see lots of post-op results, and how many people can do that? You'd also need statistics on complications, again not available.

I've seen a bunch of photo's of results from Suporn (and one in person), some from Brassard, and possibly none from Dr Chett, PAI, McGinn, Bowers, UK/Australian surgeons apart from whats on their websites. It makes it difficult to compare them.

As far as I understand it Suporn has the major claim to something different, and Dr Chett is copying some of it. I think in Dr Suporn's case at least it goes far beyond just using scrotal skin, as he also reuses as much of the existing material as he can. I don't think Dr Chett does this, or at least to the same extent.

Dr Suporn keeps it a secret, but its unclear to me why. I'm sure others could work it out if they cared. Perhaps its some cultural or personal thing. Perhaps he's just very careful with his work and doesn't want to entrust his patients to anyone else - I could personally relate to that kind of thinking.

You had really good reasons to get the time under GA down, but that doesn't apply to me or probably even most people. People don't seem to be dying because of GA. Maybe there's an increased incidence of post-op depression from GA?

Perhaps I'm being pedantic, but are really some bad surgeons in Thailand with plenty of practice. Its kind of like saying McDonalds have good quality food, which is actually true in the technical sense.

[warlockmaker]

Just a pic I took today.  The ffs is doing its thing as the swelling subsided.

You are so right...its really hard to evaluate srs surgeons without a real look at their work..they all keep detailed pictures. But we will never get a look. PAI took tons of pics.

I visited Suporn twice and really discussed his process to the point that he got quite irritated. That was the same with Chettawut. So Dr Sutin at PAI described his surgery. He uses all parts and was the same as Suporn and Chettawut. I'm sure there are minor differences.

Also I have seen some really bad jobs. I've seen them on the website.. ladyboy pussy..and great one there and also ... DanielleFox

[AnonyMs]

I find the problem with most results you see in porn is that you've no idea who the surgeon is. I've looked a a fair lot of them and only managed to discover the surgeons for a few. I agree about Danielle Foxxx, really nice result from Suporn. Her's is in a completely different class to most of the Thai ones you see; its a poor country, I assume they afford to go to any of the the top class surgeons there.

[warlockmaker]

I was talking with another forum member who has met and talked with the tg post op in Pattaya and Patpong and they recommend a surgeon that i never see mentioned. I assume it's the Thai language barrier. I'm starting my intense Thai conversation class tomorrow for 3 months. ....

I'm off to visit Keri at Vertical Suites today...

[stephaniec]

congrats you look good

[AnonyMs]

I was talking with another forum member who has met and talked with the tg post op in Pattaya and Patpong and they recommend a surgeon that i never see mentioned.

There's heaps of SRS surgeons in Thailand most of us have never heard of. This is a paper from 2014 (one of the authors is Dr Preecha)

The Development of Sex Reassignment Surgery in Thailand: A Social Perspective
"To date, there are about 20 Thai surgeons able to perform SRS. However, the highest number of the procedures (MTF only) in concentrated among 6 major groups are as follows: PAI (Preecha's Aesthetic Institute) (Bangkok), Suporn (Pattaya, Cholburee), Chettawut (Bangkok), Kamol (Bangkok), Sanguan (Phuket), and Yanhee (Bangkok)."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3977439/

[Serenation]

You look like you are glowing in your new avatar pic warlockmaker. I always wonder about what you said in the topic. As someone that has a scrotal graft and penile skin inner labia (is there any other way to do it?) , it can be weird reading you have to go to certain surgeons to get these 'special' things

[AnonyMs]

Assuming we're talking about Thai surgeons I don't think its hype in the dictionary definition of the word. They don't do enough self promotion to make that true. It may well be proprietary, but its us who are making a big deal out of it.
There's not enough information available about surgeons, so we look for whatever we can. Its human nature.

I look at subjects that I know well and there's a huge difference in people's ability. I have no doubt at all that the same is true of surgeons. I absolutely believe there's a select few who are going to be far better than the others, but which is which?

So when I look at these propriety techniques I also look at how much marketing they do. I can't really evaluate the truth of what they have with a propriety method, but if they don't do any marketing I'll tend to believe they do it because they think it has benefits. If they did a lot of marketing I'd wonder if they were doing it for hype value, and that would be a big negative.

I don't think Dr Preecha does much marketing, or if he does its not targeted at western English speakers. Suporn's also particularly bad at it and he does have a lot of western English speaking patients. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they are doing it for reasons that are not negative - perhaps they are in competition with one another, or its cultural, or its aimed at stopping foreign surgeons learning anything. Just so long as its not aimed at tricking me I'm ok with it. I'd hate to go to Suporn and have all the extra difficulty in recovery for no reason

[Rachel]

Yo look beautiful and I am glad the surgery's went well for you.