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Started by RetroFuture, March 15, 2016, 01:46:08 AM

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RetroFuture

Hi everyone,

It might be a long shot, but I'm having a really hard time finding a job. And its not even because I'm trans.

Does anyone in Melbourne maybe have any opportunities for me? I live in the CBD and I am really hard working. Or maybe someone has an idea of a place that could help me find work? The trans part comes into this that its starting to be pretty noticeable now, and I'm an awkward between genders phase and so I'm worried if I find a job that they might not want me.

Thank you all so much.
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AnonyMs

What kind of job are you looking for?
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RetroFuture

Anything really, I'm not very qualified for anything in particular. I have some hospitality experience, customer service, food prep, etc. I am very technical and have creative skills, also pretty good with computers. If anyone is willing to try, I could do anything and do it well.
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Ms Grace

When you say you are having trouble getting a job, why exactly do you think that might be? How are you responding to adverts or applying for jobs? What shape is your CV/resume in?
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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AnonyMs

I think you may need to look at the way you're going about it.

Imagine if you'd posted your skills and someone here was looking and had an exact match - only you didn't so you missed it?

As an example you're very technical and have creative skills. I've no idea what that really means. You can program a computer? Graphic design? Word processing? Excel? If I knew of a job (which I don't and I'm in Sydney anyway) I wouldn't think to mention it because I don't know what you mean.
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RetroFuture

Thanks for the responses :)

I can totally see what you are both saying, and I have had trouble with writing stuff that sounds good or makes sense before but here is my current CV so have a look at that, I took away all my personal info at the top (Name, availability, address, phone and email) and all the black bars aren't supposed to be there, I just didn't want to put too much personal info online.

I was pretty vague in my last posts, I guess I'm more looking for employment agencies that help trans people find work, or organizations, etc. Or on the off chance that someone here may be able to get me in somewhere trans friendly. I said I was having trouble and it wasn't because I'm trans because I've been applying online on Seek and some other websites so they cant see what I'm like (still using old name). But I am scared that when they meet me in person they might not choose me over other people because I look different than most people, or if I do get a job that I will have to come out soon because I wont have a choice (HRT is changing me fast). So I guess I really do need to find a trans friendly job.




Thank you so much for looking :)
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Serenation

I'm going to be moving back to Melbourne, so if there are any services that help trans people It would be nice to know. Though not being openly trans I guess that wont even work.
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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Cindy

Hi Hon,

I read your CV and I have to admit it does nothing for me.
I do employ people and regularly interview people. So the CV. Skills; There is nothing in there showing me you have the skills. What have you done in those areas? Do you have a food hygiene qualification? Why experience have you had?
A CV sells you. I want to be interested in you, I want to talk to you. You give me no reason to do so.

CV's can be over the top but they are a sales pitch and you are selling you. Where in your CV does it make me say 'Wow' I have to meet this person and see if they are real.

So some ideas: I have experience in food preparation: I worked in Al's Sandwich deli and I am use to the pressure of a busy lunch time schedule. I easily remember orders and I have passed a basic food hygiene qualification. In this position I was use to making 100 sandwiches a day and loved to engage the customers in small talk. Indeed I had regular customers come to me as a preference.
Supervision: I looked after and supervised x staff and was the person they turned to for advice.
Problem Solving: I have great skills at this and would think ahead and notice when supplies where running low and would either contact suppliers or put staff onto preparation of salads so that the frontline staff had ingredients to hand.
Time management: I knew when our busy periods where and ensured I had staff available to serve and back up staff when peak activity occurred.



Do you see the difference? You are giving examples of HOW you used your skills. That separates you from the others. As far as being TG so what. If the owner of the place knows you are nice and friendly have proven people skills, that is what they want to know.

You want to show yourself as interesting and capable. But you have to tell them that you are and to show that you are.

You can do this Hon.

I'm happy to help out with a CV if you wish.




Quote from: RetroFuture on March 15, 2016, 09:19:31 AM
Thanks for the responses :)

I can totally see what you are both saying, and I have had trouble with writing stuff that sounds good or makes sense before but here is my current CV so have a look at that, I took away all my personal info at the top (Name, availability, address, phone and email) and all the black bars aren't supposed to be there, I just didn't want to put too much personal info online.

I was pretty vague in my last posts, I guess I'm more looking for employment agencies that help trans people find work, or organizations, etc. Or on the off chance that someone here may be able to get me in somewhere trans friendly. I said I was having trouble and it wasn't because I'm trans because I've been applying online on Seek and some other websites so they cant see what I'm like (still using old name). But I am scared that when they meet me in person they might not choose me over other people because I look different than most people, or if I do get a job that I will have to come out soon because I wont have a choice (HRT is changing me fast). So I guess I really do need to find a trans friendly job.




Thank you so much for looking :)
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Ms Grace

Yeah, I'm with Cindy. Having worked in recruitment I can yell you that most employers won't even look once at an application that doesn't sell the applicant. Sure you've worked in those places, but as Cindy says, what did you do and how did the work you do contribute to the organisation plus how might it be of use to the prospective employer's organisation. Gotta sell your passion/enthusiasm for the position and a CV by itself won't do that even if you do have lots of experience. Where you don't have much relevant experience you'll have to see yourself even more.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Serenation

Can you mention qualifications you had if you have no proof of having them. Do employers ever ask to see the certificates?
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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Cindy

Quote from: Serenation on March 16, 2016, 02:24:49 AM
Can you mention qualifications you had if you have no proof of having them. Do employers ever ask to see the certificates?

I ask to see all qualifications.
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Serenation

Quote from: Cindy on March 16, 2016, 02:28:10 AM
I ask to see all qualifications.

So I would just leave those qualifications off CV ?
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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Cindy

Quote from: Serenation on March 16, 2016, 02:30:38 AM
Quote from: Cindy on March 16, 2016, 02:28:10 AM
I ask to see all qualifications.

So I would just leave those qualifications off CV ?

I presume you have qualifications under your dead name?

I do as well and just showed my name change certificate. I then said that my name change is confidential.

I didn't have any problems.
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Ms Grace

You could maybe approach the institution that awarded the qualification about having it reissued under your new name. I approached my uni about my degree but never heard back and I haven't pursued the matter but should!
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Serenation

Quote from: Cindy on March 16, 2016, 02:38:16 AM
So I would just leave those qualifications off CV ?


I presume you have qualifications under your dead name?

I do as well and just showed my name change certificate. I then said that my name change is confidential.

I didn't have any problems.

Yeah under dead name and probably lost also. So without outing myself my entire work history and schooling is void. The jobs I've done since then I can't put on a cv due to court cases. My CV would literally be blank. Maybe a blank CV would get attention at least.

I pretty much accepted being unemployable because of how intersex / trans affected my life. I used to get interviews all the time, but soon as they seen me I didn't get job. I think now I'm binary people seem to be a lot more comfortable around me but with no CV I'm not sure how to get to the interview stage any more.

Not the end of the world, I find odd jobs here and there that don't require CV's and make things at home to sell. (Still frustrating)
I will touch a 100 flowers and not pick one.
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Cindy


OK. not the end of the world. As Grace said write to the institutions and ask for new certificates. Say you lost them in a catastrophe, your name has changed and you want them reissued.

You could also email me and we can talk about your past experiences in total confidentiality and I may be able to provide a reference.

Use my cindy@anzgsg.org email and then I will direct you to my professional address. Your call.

Never say never!

Cindy

Quote from: Serenation on March 16, 2016, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: Cindy on March 16, 2016, 02:38:16 AM
So I would just leave those qualifications off CV ?


I presume you have qualifications under your dead name?

I do as well and just showed my name change certificate. I then said that my name change is confidential.

I didn't have any problems.

Yeah under dead name and probably lost also. So without outing myself my entire work history and schooling is void. The jobs I've done since then I can't put on a cv due to court cases. My CV would literally be blank. Maybe a blank CV would get attention at least.

I pretty much accepted being unemployable because of how intersex / trans affected my life. I used to get interviews all the time, but soon as they seen me I didn't get job. I think now I'm binary people seem to be a lot more comfortable around me but with no CV I'm not sure how to get to the interview stage any more.

Not the end of the world, I find odd jobs here and there that don't require CV's and make things at home to sell. (Still frustrating)
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Laura_7

Quote from: Serenation on March 16, 2016, 02:54:07 AM
Yeah under dead name and probably lost also. So without outing myself my entire work history and schooling is void. The jobs I've done since then I can't put on a cv due to court cases. My CV would literally be blank. Maybe a blank CV would get attention at least.

I pretty much accepted being unemployable because of how intersex / trans affected my life. I used to get interviews all the time, but soon as they seen me I didn't get job. I think now I'm binary people seem to be a lot more comfortable around me but with no CV I'm not sure how to get to the interview stage any more.

Not the end of the world, I find odd jobs here and there that don't require CV's and make things at home to sell. (Still frustrating)

Would it be a possibility to name just the branch of the company and what you did ?
Imo its most important to really be able to do the things you list.
Not all people want exact documents but they want a listing of skills that can be used at their place.
Also it might be possible to emphasize soft skills ... reliability ... willingness to learn and improve ... being able to adapt fast to the environment ...
and there might be jobs where its not that important how people look like ... having telephone or email contact ...


*hugs*
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RetroFuture

Thanks for your advice Cindy and Ms Grace. :)

I will go over my CV and hopefully that will help.
I've been thinking now is probably the perfect time to progress more to live as myself while I'm not working. Maybe by the time I get a job I will be ready to be out. Probably smarter to hide myself at an new job, and then if it goes well and people are happy with my work come out then? Would that be easier than trying to start a job as a trans woman?

Also I don't think I can send PM's yet, but someone made the point that a google search might come across my CV on this forum and out me I guess. But I think its safe, I tested it and also because it's an image it would be hard for a website to detect its words.
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RetroFuture

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Ms Grace

Yes, that's a vast improvement. Remember though that some employers will require you to include responses to selection criteria... those tend more to be non-profit and government organisations but you'll also find those tend to be more trans friendly too.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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