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dmitri_mendeleev

How did your coming out experience go? Who did you come out to first? Did it go over well? Just curious? Don't worry, I don't judge people.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: dmitri_mendeleev on March 30, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
How did your coming out experience go? Who did you come out to first? Did it go over well? Just curious? Don't worry, I don't judge people.

Coming out to my wife didn't go well. She greeted every new revelation with fear and anger.

Coming out to my work colleagues went well. The supported me and continue to treat me with respect.

Coming out to friends and family was mixed. Some people reacted with hateful words and distance, others were just clearly uncomfortable with the concept. Others accepted me wholeheartedly.
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HappyMoni

I am now out to almost everyone I know. The first person I told was my doctor. I was terrified and my blood pressure was sky high that day. The more people I have told the easier it gets. The last time I came out was to about 80 people at work. I was pretty nervous as I am not a public speaker. I got a standing ovation and a lot of hugs. I think it went well because I respected them, telling them face to face, I described the pain that this has caused me through the years, and I told them I wanted to give them time to adjust before seeing the "new" me. People want to be respected. The hardest outing was my children. I was terrified of hurting them. I guess I am am a very lucky girl. I have not gotten the negative responses that so many others have gotten. It is horrible for people to be rejected.
After telling you all this, I find myself wondering why you asked this question. Are you figuring out your own path? If you are looking ahead to coming out, I would say it doesn't fix everything to be out, but it is so nice not to be carrying around the weight of "the giant secret." For me, when I look at someone now, I know they see the real me. It's pretty cool!
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dmitri_mendeleev

Quote from: HappyMoni on March 30, 2016, 08:54:40 AM
I am now out to almost everyone I know. The first person I told was my doctor. I was terrified and my blood pressure was sky high that day. The more people I have told the easier it gets. The last time I came out was to about 80 people at work. I was pretty nervous as I am not a public speaker. I got a standing ovation and a lot of hugs. I think it went well because I respected them, telling them face to face, I described the pain that this has caused me through the years, and I told them I wanted to give them time to adjust before seeing the "new" me. People want to be respected. The hardest outing was my children. I was terrified of hurting them. I guess I am am a very lucky girl. I have not gotten the negative responses that so many others have gotten. It is horrible for people to be rejected.
After telling you all this, I find myself wondering why you asked this question. Are you figuring out your own path? If you are looking ahead to coming out, I would say it doesn't fix everything to be out, but it is so nice not to be carrying around the weight of "the giant secret." For me, when I look at someone now, I know they see the real me. It's pretty cool!
Moni


I am considering coming out. I am just curious as to other peoples' experiences. 😃
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Megan.

Technically my therapist was the first, they were great. After that my wife, which has lead to a separation, but we are on good terms. Family has been mixed, mum taken it very bad, but sister been great. Friends have all been great so far.
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Sharon Anne McC

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Sorry but my experiences were failures.  We of the 'baby boom' era endure people who are less accepting that those of younger generations.

My family - both immediate and extended - all knew about my feminine protesting tantrums throughout my childhood and into teen years, cross-dressing since age three, my declared female name by age eight, and my stated intention to begin transition at the earliest adult age possible (which I did at age 18).

Thus there was no formal or official 'coming out' to family who already knew.

The real issue for family was when it would be the last they saw of Nick / male and the first they would see of Sharon / female.  That presentation occurred at different times because of family members scattered across the USA; due to geographical proximities, my sister was first, my dad was second, and my mom was last.

Aunts, uncles, cousins, and others saw me (or not) as time went on - all knowing in advance that I changed - and rejected me.  One cousin, who had been more of a sister than my sister, sent to me anti-transsexual literature published by her church and wants nothing to do with me.

It is total rejection in my family.  Maybe it was the finality.  Maybe they failed to recognise that they perceived me making irrational statements rather than rational commitments.  It must be tough for them to reconcile that I have been post-op more than 30 years while they remain in denial of that fact.  Last December, I reminded both my sister and one cousin of my change; they continue refusing to accept reality.

My first counselling contact was easy - they were a husband and wife team who specialised in sexual issues.  We never did counselling because I moved again before I was to have started with them.

My first physicians were tough.  I resided at a very small New Mexico town for my first general examination and was well-received.  My second appointment when I moved to a different small town also went well, he referred me to my first internist who was quite supportive, which led to my first long-term counselling, that was also a positive experience.

The toughest counselling was when I resided at Utah (1980 - 1985).  I eventually found a counsellor who brought me into his group therapy but with the caveat that I should not discuss my transsexual situation with the other members who may not take well to it; my counsellor and I discussed my issues only during occasional one-on-one sessions.  He also told me that I was the only transsexual in the state at that time; if anyone knows of someone else who resided at Utah during that same time, we might start a new club.

Two of my employers mis-used Social Security Administration data to harass me, out me, and fire me.  Only my claims at Unemployment Insurance vindicated me.  Not one manager - all admitting they violated my protected privacy and all admitting to violating the laws - was ever prosecuted.  One manager bragged during his open court testimony of committing three specific federal felonies against me, yet that manager fired me because he declared me 'mentally unfit' to be an employee of the State of Arizona.

I have a curious 'coming out' experience to a former girlfriend; rather, I have yet to personally come out to her though she knows of my change.  She last saw me during my end days of 'male fail' (1985).  Since then we talked a few times on the telephone with me not mentioning my past identification; they were odd conversations indeed.  I planned a meeting with her but that mis-fired when she was not home and I spent time visiting with her mom instead.  I did not tell her mom; I'm sure by her expression that she was quite puzzled who I was.

Other than that, people who knew me 'before' are no longer in my life at their choice to reject me.  I have not come out to people who only know me as Sharon / female since my 'after'; I consider my status as any other private medical concern that is none of their business.

I had two boyfriends and one Lesbian girlfriend in years past; none knew.  But then, we never went quite far enough for me to consider disclosing my situation to them.

The lesson here is that standard:  YMMV.  Every person and every relationship is different.  You may experience good results where others experienced failure.

My best wishes to you and all.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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GarryLynn

Eh I didn't really come out, when I realised I was trans it was like "oh, ok, cool" and just transitioned from there. People at school reacted negatively when I wore eye makeup the first day at school, by the time I lived full time as me people don't really care much, they say things here and there but I don't hear it and I don't care
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purplewuggybird

Coming out was more annoying me that hard for me. I felt completely comfortable with my friends, most of my family, and pretty much everyone else in my life. The annoying part was having to explain a complex situation to someone which is an inherently awkward conversation. However I found that coming out and transitioning brought me much closer to many of my friends.


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invisiblemonsters

coming out was pretty easy for me. i was always a "tom boy" so when i came out, it wasn't really a "surprise." my family is super accepting and my parents were with me every step of the way, mostly my mom though because she was the one who took me to my appointments, came with me for my surgery, etc. i got really lucky in that department. i started transitioning when i was 18 but fully transitioned when i was 23 (my bad for that, i procrastinated). i haven't seen some family who i told i was transitioning because they moved to other provinces or we weren't close. my friends didn't care, it wasn't a shock to them either and friends i've made since transitioning don't know. at my work and school i am stealth so no one knows at work or school that i'm trans.

the first person i think i told was my mom though. i was like "so..i feel like a boy and i wanna do something to work towards that" and it kinda took off from there. it was more awkward telling my family the name/pronouns i want then actually coming out.
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FreyasRedemption

Mother kind of pressurized me into telling when she had figured out that something was seriously wrong and I was depressed. It took me a while to gather up enough strength to tell her.

Dad I told much later on, and unlike what I had expected, he took it much better than mom, though she later acquired a very good understanding of what I was going through, while he still hasn't bothered with so much as a look at Wikipedia.


In addition to them, I also came out to a few teachers I could trust with this (special school, we had smaller classes and much, much more personal interaction with teachers. It's strange, but it works wonders.) None of them reacted negatively, and with them I got much-needed practice to come out to my dad without bursting into tears like I did with my mother.
There is a better tomorrow.
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Vanessa_Glidewell

I told my mum I wanted to be a girl when I was 7, she didn't take me seriously until a year ago when I started doing makeup and growing out my hair (But it became a <Not Permitted> to manage so I opted for a pixie cut) but she's been great and very supportive. My dads been, adjusting. My grandma and her side are awesome about it. My brothers have always seen me as a sister :) . My grandpa and his side, eh they respect me, except they refer to me with masculine terms but oh well. Schools a <Not Permitted> but eh I got 2 years left. Friends have been 100% since day one lol. Yeh I think my transition is going ok so far, all I need is to get E and grow out my hair that I miss and promise I'll never cut again
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Fresas con Nata

I'm out to 4 people:

  • M: incredibly understanding and supportive, she has even pushed me to go forward and I'm so thankful because if I had done things at my pace, I'd probably transition around 2040 or 2050.
  • C: she's a lot on feminist and lgbti stuff, so this was a safe bet :)
  • Mom: as I had already taken care of letting her see me with not-too-manly clothing, and even high heeled shoes, it wasn't too big of a shock for her. She was surprised, though, about all the other things that surround the core identity issue (voice training, ffs, electrolysis...)
  • Dad: mom told him :) and he messaged me showing support.

    So far, it has all been pretty smooth for me.
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IdontEven

The first person I told was my therapist, whom I had sought out specifically to help deal with being trans. That was difficult and scary. The next person I told was my cousin who is also my best friend. That was also really scary and quite awkward. Then I told my mom, which, again, was scary. She came kind of late in the chain because if she reacted negatively it would've been a disaster on so many levels.

After that I started telling people in my life here and there, and it's gotten to the point where it's pretty easy to do now. Each time I tell someone and they respond positively the next one is easier, but if I ever have a negative reaction I'm not sure how well I'll handle it. With that in mind I have not come out to either side of my extended family, because I can't imagine that will go well. It's cool though, I'll build my own family. With blackjack! And hookers!

Basically if they're heavy into church and/or above 40 years old I don't expect them to have a positive reaction, which is prejudiced I know, but...better safe than sorry.

I think the biggest surprise in all this is how nonchalant most of the reactions are. Not a single "holy crap!" or anything. My cousin and mom both said something similar to "you've never displayed ANY feminine qualities, so...wth?" But nobody has really responded in an overly animated way. I guess it's a bit of a shock and it takes time to process or something, I don't know. And now it seems like people still don't realize on their own, I'm boiling the frog slowly on social transition, but then once I tell them they're like "OHHH, yeah okay I can see it now." People see what they want/expect to see.

If I could give one piece of advice for coming out to people, it would be to prepare yourself, both emotionally and in whatever other way is necessary, for both positive and negative reactions. If you may get kicked out of your home, have a plan in place for where to go. If you may lose a friend, be as ready for that as you can be. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, then clench your fists and get through it.
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
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OriginalJokeGoesHere

Quote from: IdontEven on April 21, 2016, 01:37:34 PM

I think the biggest surprise in all this is how nonchalant most of the reactions are.

Actually, that seems like a fairly common theme I've seen. People expect it to be a big deal, but the reactions tend to be more *meh*.

I really hope that's the reaction I get considering the other side is getting thrown out and disowned...
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XanderTheGreat

Quote from: dmitri_mendeleev on March 30, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
How did your coming out experience go? Who did you come out to first? Did it go over well? Just curious? Don't worry, I don't judge people.

It was surprisingly hard, I knew for a fact I wouldnt be kicked out or abused though.
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karenpayneoregon

To put things into perspective, I live on the West Coast, mother (93 years old) and my daughter (29 years old) live on the East Coast. So when I started my real life experience I did not tell them. I contemplated on telling my daughter but she is the type to not keep a secret.

So two days after surgery my mother called me, said I heard you were in the hospital in California, what's wrong, hope it's not serious. I told her it's nothing to be concerned with. We chatted for a while then said goodbye. She called the following day, depended I tell her what was going on and I repeated myself, nothing to be concerned with.

So she calls the third day and says I am fairly certain what's going on. I said tell me and she replied, did you have a gender reassignment surgery? I was dumbfounded that she, at her age would guess this. To be truthful I don't remember the conversation but do remember her asking if I changed my name. I said yes, Kevin would not be a decent female name. And I changed my last name to, told her and there was momentary silence. She came back and said, so I lost a son and gained a daughter. We talked some more, for about an hour and ended on a good note.

Fast forward, we talk several times a month and one thing I have notice is she talks to me like I was a cisgender female, it's a wonderful feeling.

About three months after surgery she asked for pictures of me. I went to a local photographer and had wall size photos done. I had to laugh when she confided to me that when she told her hair dresser the hair dresser asked to see my pictures. My 93 year old mother dragged the picture frame (it's not small) to the hair dressers next time she went.

Last month she asked me, do you think your father (deceased) would have accepted you? I said my belief is no. She came back and agreed which is sad because I had a very good relationship with my father.

I told my daughter shortly after my mother, she said she suspected something along the line of transgender and has been nothing but supportive to me since surgery.

I also have a son, which did not find out until six month later, he is in California and speak less than my daughter, it's a guy thing. So this was over the phone and we talked for nearly an hour, in the end he was accepting of my transition and wants me to come down to California to visit which I said this coming summer I would visit as I have other people to visit too.

With friends, two religious friends had a hard time with me transitioning when I emailed them. I said, let's meet for coffee and talk in person which we did and that cleared things up. One of them wrote on my FB page with "She saved my life once and was a good mentor with me learning to be a defensive tactics instructor and I accept her".

At work, out of say 50 people (my team is around 20) two have yet talked to me since transitioning. I can see it in their eye's, I am a messed up person.

My best friend who travelled to California for my surgery, her 16 year old daughter walked up to me and said "God doesn't make mistakes" and outright disapproved of my transition. Over the coming months she did research (I was impressed) and has come full circle from not accepting me to now sits down with me, talks to me no different than another female, complements me on my fashion style and even ask for my advice.

I really had a good chuckle when FB had a post about my wedding anniversary (not married anymore) that showed me and my ex-wife together. My daughter told me as it was not on my page but my ex's page. My daughter as her mother how do you feel about this? The ex-responded with "It's part of my life, be if good or bad it is part of what has defined me."

I have truly been fortunate as I read horror stories all the time  of bad reactions when coming out.

When it comes to life, we spin our own yarn, and where we end up is really, in fact, where we always intended to be."
-Julia Glass, Three Junes

GCS 2015, age 58
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Wild-Eyed

Coming out, even to my CPNs, was horrible. It worsened my dysphoria. My crisis team call me by my name, but my father tells me they're only doing it to be nice, and there is certainly a pause before each time they say it.
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Midnightstar

Quote from: dmitri_mendeleev on March 30, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
How did your coming out experience go? Who did you come out to first? Did it go over well? Just curious? Don't worry, I don't judge people.

I remember the day that I came out I was actually camping with my aunt We were sitting by the fire at around midnight and I had a discussion with her and  this was the beginning of my questioning. I didn't actually say that I was transgender I said I wasn't sure. I just knew that something wasn't okay, I explained
to her that night about my body and how certain things on my body made me uncomfortable. I chose to come out to my aunt first because I knew that she would be accepting or so I hoped. She immediately looked at me and said do you think you want to become a man? me being in the questioning phase and honestly terrified i said NO! and said i didn't feel like anything or was maybe genderfluid. Once we got deeper into the conversation about my body she asked me why wanted to change it and that she believes i should love my body and not change it.
I think you understand at this point were that ended up. My first coming-out experience really wasn't that pleasant she wasn't not accepting I mean she accepted and understood but only understood to a degree and because she only understood she said some things that was triggering and not very knowledgeable. I remember coming home and not being very happy actually I was pretty dysphoric. To be honest though I came out to her and talk to her again about it the next time we went camping because i trusted she could learn and she must have done some research or something because she is a lot better with how she approaches the subject and I appreciate that. She is more open to me being me and doing what i want with my body, even though at the start she didn't want that to change completely. Now don't get me wrong I have shared different stories mainly because I actually came out to my aunt two or three times because i either was still questioning or wanted to vent and needed support. She did what she could learned and did eventually support me many times over.  I came out to my family also, and i came out to my family about being gay and then the gender part i told them (agender/genderfluid) about up until i figured out i was ftm and wanted to transition and was trans at that point it was way to much for me to admit. So i had my aunt help me come out to my parents ect. because of this my coming out story is actually a couple stories. But if i remember correctly (don't quote me) i think maybe! this was my first or second time i came out and it was deep  and probably one of the most frightening moments.  It was one of my first talks.  And the update on everything that happened is great with me and her.
With me and my parents we are working on things together and it'll get there in time.

And thank you actually for asking this question
i remembered a couple of conversations while questioning sexuality with her
and i should have known back then haha.
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Fresas con Nata

(a bit of a necropost)

Quote from: Fresas con Nata on April 21, 2016, 10:48:38 AM
I'm out to 4 people:

  • M: incredibly understanding and supportive
  • C: she's a lot on feminist and lgbti stuff, so this was a safe bet :)
  • Mom: it wasn't too big of a shock for her.
  • Dad: mom told him
M is now my flatmate, along with her bf, who already knows too.

Mom turned out to be struggling with it. I can tell she's putting effort into it, but both my parents are approaching their 70s. I understand them.

Of my 9 facebook friends (I'm such a social person!!), I'm out to 7. Not a single rejection, although I can sense kind of a "meh" from the least close friends.

I had to tell my GP in order to ask him to send me to the GIC. No biggie either.

When shopping for female stuff (in girl mode) sometimes it's easier for me to just say I'm trans, instead of inventing something. Turns out to work fine.

My company has some officially approved groups of historically vulnerable people: women, muslim and... LGTBI!! When I found out about it, I decided that the moment of coming out to my boss was very near. I thought it would be good for him to know it in order to explain my increased frequency of appointments lately. He wasn't specially enthused, but showed support.

Well that's not really my company, that's the client of my actual employer. I plan to tell my boss, at my employer, the next time we meet next month. He has already seen my high-heeled Converse :)

Surprisingly smooth, all in all.
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