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All the Things You Can No Longer Buy if You’re Really Boycotting Trans-Friendly

Started by JessicaSondelli, April 26, 2016, 09:12:43 PM

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All the Things You Can No Longer Buy if You're Really Boycotting Trans-Friendly Businesses

Source: - The Daily Beast
https://apple.news/AiMIMoyp_NDSea4Euicnc5w

By Samantha Allen   04.26.16 2:40 PM ET



When Target reiterated last week that transgender employees and customers can use restrooms and fitting rooms that match their gender, apoplectic bigots threatened to boycott.

The American Family Association (AFA), a fundamentalist Christian non-profit that is considered a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), claims to have gathered more than 517,000 signatures on its petition.

"Target's store policy endangers women and children by allowing men to frequent women's facilities," the boycott pledge reads. "Until Target makes the safety of women and children a priority, I will shop elsewhere."

First of all, there is no evidence to suggest that transgender people are a danger in restrooms, nor that anti-transgender legislation protects the safety of women and children.
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big kim

I'd suggest tin foil hats but the tin foil makers are probably pro LGBT
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KarlMars

Quote from: big kim on April 27, 2016, 07:05:04 AM
I'd suggest tin foil hats but the tin foil makers are probably pro LGBT

Great joke!  :D

If that many people boycott all those places couldn't just go out of business could they?


Dee Marshall

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on April 27, 2016, 07:35:55 AM
Great joke!  :D

If that many people boycott all those places couldn't just go out of business could they?
No, that's less than 1/500th of the population. Most people who sign those pledges don't follow through the first time it becomes inconvenient. A good portion of them may not have ever shopped in Target to begin with.
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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KarlMars

Quote from: Dee Marshall on April 27, 2016, 09:00:09 PM
No, that's less than 1/500th of the population. Most people who sign those pledges don't follow through the first time it becomes inconvenient. A good portion of them may not have ever shopped in Target to begin with.

I didn't shop at Target much due to inconvenience. The only thing I really bought there was clothing, but now it makes me want to go there to buy a few groceries just because they're supportive of us.

Walmart doesn't appear to have a stance on LGBT do they?

Dee Marshall

Walmart? Yes and no. The employee policy is clear. No discrimination or disrespect of any kind for any associate or customer. All acceptable clothing choices, including skirts, can be worn by anyone regardless of gender, the only difference being that people identifying as male have to tuck in their shirt (not often enforced). Bathroom use is generally under the respect rule. In my store the transgender associates, all three and a half of us I'm aware of, use the restroom we feel appropriate with the support of personnel. There was some push back from other associates when I opened that particular can of worms but personnel made it quite clear to them we were acting appropriately and there have been no issues. Some group, I forget exactly who, rates companies. Walmart got a 90, missing transgender accepting health coverage because most associates aren't eligible for health coverage. I have no idea if the plan gives transgender services to the people who are eligible. I'll have to ask my friend. She's a manager and one of us.

Despite all of that Walmart has made no public statement either way, probably because they're based in Arkansas and saturated in the regions most up in arms. I'd love for them to say something, but quiet acceptance is all we can really ask when the majority of us don't feel comfortable being activists either.
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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KarlMars

Quote from: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2016, 09:10:29 AM
Walmart? Yes and no. The employee policy is clear. No discrimination or disrespect of any kind for any associate or customer. All acceptable clothing choices, including skirts, can be worn by anyone regardless of gender, the only difference being that people identifying as male have to tuck in their shirt (not often enforced). Bathroom use is generally under the respect rule. In my store the transgender associates, all three and a half of us I'm aware of, use the restroom we feel appropriate with the support of personnel. There was some push back from other associates when I opened that particular can of worms but personnel made it quite clear to them we were acting appropriately and there have been no issues. Some group, I forget exactly who, rates companies. Walmart got a 90, missing transgender accepting health coverage because most associates aren't eligible for health coverage. I have no idea if the plan gives transgender services to the people who are eligible. I'll have to ask my friend. She's a manager and one of us.

Despite all of that Walmart has made no public statement either way, probably because they're based in Arkansas and saturated in the regions most up in arms. I'd love for them to say something, but quiet acceptance is all we can really ask when the majority of us don't feel comfortable being activists either.

Great information, thanks. A 90 is better than it could be. At least we know they aren't blatantly against LGBT. If they were I'm sure they know they wouldn't be so popular anymore. I'm hoping that as time goes on more companies will have Trans health insurance.

suzifrommd

Quote from: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2016, 09:10:29 AM
I'd love for them to say something, but quiet acceptance is all we can really ask when the majority of us don't feel comfortable being activists either.

Given that most of use the correct restroom anyway, silence really is a form of assent. Which is why it bugs me that people are making a big deal out of what Target says.
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Dee Marshall

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on April 28, 2016, 09:36:37 AM
Great information, thanks. A 90 is better than it could be. At least we know they aren't blatantly against LGBT. If they were I'm sure they know they wouldn't be so popular anymore. I'm hoping that as time goes on more companies will have Trans health insurance.
They lost 10% ONLY because of health coverage, they met all other criteria. I'm actually fonder of Walmart than I was before I started working there.
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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Promethea

Quote from: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2016, 09:10:29 AM
Some group, I forget exactly who, rates companies.

That would be the Human Rights Campaign Foundation and the Corporate Equality Index.
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