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Will I have any chance of passing with my body?

Started by DJkita, May 07, 2016, 12:44:33 PM

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DJkita

This is one of the biggest things holding me back from transitioning.
I'm almost 6'5", I have broad shoulders, and large feet. Disregarding my face/voice, would I ever have a chance of passing like that?
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Rafaela

Models are often quite tall, and female swimmers often have broad shoulders.
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Dena

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Welcome to Susan's place. I am a bit smaller than you at 6'2" but I have broad shoulders and wear a size 13 woman's shoe would be an 11.5 or 12 in a mens shoe. I transitioned about 33 years ago when women where a bit shorter sometimes wearing 3" heels and it wasn't a problem. There are women on this site your hight and taller who have no problem passing. Most of it's just plain attitude. If you act like you belong, nobody will question you. If you show fear or discomfort, people will look closer to understand why. It's just an automatic human response.

The answer is you have a very good chance of passing with the correct wardrobe selection and the right attitude.

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Mermaid

It's possible, I'm 5'11 and don't really have a problem...

I guess 6'5 is a bit unusual, depending on which country you're from, but height isn't the sole thing that counts. If everything else got you read as female... you'd just be a tall woman. Seems logical to me, otherwise every short male could pass as female.

A tall woman is likely just going to be interpreted as a tall woman, she's not automatically a transwoman... there's a lot of cues when it comes to determining gender. I've seen plenty of women that outright towered over me, and I don't think anyone was paying them any mind, or wondering if "they're trans". I don't think it's the first thing that crosses people's minds, or that anyone has a radar or cares... at least where I'm from, being "transsexual" is such an obscure thing, that I doubt anyone's really thinking "that woman is tall, maybe she was a man"...

Traits like a beard shadow or a baritone voice would be far bigger hindrances than height to anyone observing, I think...
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Quote from: Dena on May 07, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
Most of it's just plain attitude. If you act like you belong, nobody will question you.

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Unfortunately, most of it is looks, voice, & mannerisms.  People will judge/gender you from a distance in a supermarket.  People will judge/gender you up close in line at the bank.  People will judge/gender you once the first word comes out of your mouth at a bar.  Passing isn't just being comfortable in your own skin or you having the attitude that you pass; passing is entirely how other people interpret you.  Your attitude affects nothing on those initial, immediate, and superficial levels.

Don't believe me?

Do you think the whole debacle with Planet Fitness & Carlotta Sklodowska would have EVER taken place if she was passable?  I bet you $500 she walked into that ladies dressing room with the attitude of purpose; that she belonged; that she was a woman just like every other woman at that gym.  Look what happened~

If that's not proof enough... how many shy girls have you met in your life?  Or socially awkward girls?  Or girls who had no self-esteem and looked at the ground the whole time.  Their attitude is one of "not belonging" on some level, and I bet no one misgenders them any more than any other cis-female on the planet.

This "passing is 90% attitude" isn't just wrong, it's flat out destructive advice imo.

To OP:  If everything else is on point, it isn't a deal breaker, no... it shouldn't stop you from transitioning if that's what's in your heart and what you're ready to do :)


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JoanneB

A member of my group is 6' 17" and resigned to the NFW slot. Still does not stop her from not hating herself for being trans

I am 6' even. Back 40 years ago in a world where the average woman's height was 5'5" and I was 2" taller then the average guys I failed miserably with my 2 transition experiments.

Today I am a bit closer to my "Goal Height" of 5'4" thanks to the ravages of gravity. I achieved my life long dream of being seen as and accepted as a woman. It took a long while of just reveling in the joy of being out in the real world as the real me to see that I actually can pull it off. No rocks thrown. No Laughter.

99% of passing is attitude. OK  Attitude is everything.

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kittenpower

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I'll take "wouldn't that be awesome if it was true" for $1000, Alex

I have a good attitude and I know that I don't pass 100% of the time, even if I don't get misgendered, negative comments, or stares. I like being me though, so it's not an issue.
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Karen_A

Quote from: JoanneB on May 07, 2016, 07:31:58 PM
99% of passing is attitude. OK  Attitude is everything.

In my experience attitude is necessary but not sufficient, particularly these T* aware days.

Physically outside of voce and facial structure the most important thing is  proportions IMO, the bigger in any sense one is the more important proportions are.

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Ms Grace

Quote from: JoanneB on May 07, 2016, 07:31:58 PM
A member of my group is 6' 17"...

Is that the new way of saying 7'5" or are they 6'7" ;) If the former, then I'm 5'15" ;D

Quote from: DJkita on May 07, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
I'm almost 6'5", I have broad shoulders, and large feet. Disregarding my face/voice, would I ever have a chance of passing like that?

There is a member on this forum who is 6'5" and she says she has no major issues. She lives in New York where - I would expect - it's easier to "blend in".

HRT will change your shoulders over time, but you might want to try and lose weight in the process if you feel they are too bulky.

The bottom line is, you won't know until you know. I am 6'3" and for years that held me back, I expected I had little to no chance of really passing but much to my surprise I do at least 95+% of the time. Who would have thought? I do think the way I dress and present helps in that regard, if I didn't then I'd probably not pass as much. So it requires a bit of effort, and is very much dependent on a lot of factors - some you have total control over and some you don't - but you won't know until you know.
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