When do you think controversy over trans people will calm down?

[MisterQueer]

Title's question. Anyways, I'm getting kind of sick of it. I'm always hearing stuff about bathrooms on the news, discussions about trans people, etc. I plan on coming out in a few years time, but I don't want to do it during the climax of trans-panic/anti trans-panic, that's just asking for trouble. How many years will it take for trans people to not be such a hot topic in the media? Five years? Ten years? Even more than that? What do you think? 

[Dena]

The public has a short attention span and I suspect in a year or two, some time after the presidential elections are over, things will calm down. I suspect it may get worst before it gets better so prepare for a bumpy ride for a bit.

[suzifrommd]

Title's question. Anyways, I'm getting kind of sick of it. I'm always hearing stuff about bathrooms on the news, discussions about trans people, etc. I plan on coming out in a few years time, but I don't want to do it during the climax of trans-panic/anti trans-panic, that's just asking for trouble. How many years will it take for trans people to not be such a hot topic in the media? Five years? Ten years? Even more than that? What do you think?

Yes. It will calm down. This is the death throes of a generation that seeks to control conformity. Younger folk tend to be more tolerant of diversity. Ten years from now we'll be shocked that acceptance wasn't always a given.

To some extent it depends on us. If we make an effort to educate people who we are, people will be quicker to get used to us. If we don't it will take longer.

[Deborah]

There is a segment of the population for whom it will never die.  What we can hope for is that the Federal Government will follow through with their threat and make them feel enough pain that they learn to attend to themselves instead of everybody else.

I imagine that within 18 months this will have faded into the background.  But it will probably be another generation before its forgotten entirely.


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[AnonyMs]

After the US election?

[RobynD]

I suspect like marriage equality, it will get noisy for a while and then go away. The prejudice and phobia will be around a while.

[Deborah]

Marriage equality has hardly faded away in the US.  Kin Davis is recent news.  So is the Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice.


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[RobynD]

True but the response from the regressives is pretty anemic and laughed at my the mainstream.

[Deborah]

It is what is spawning all the religious freedom bills in so many states.  And what is mainstream is very different in different sections of the country.  Mainstream here is the Southern Baptists.


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[arice]

I think it really depends where you are. I think it will calm down faster in Canada (where I live) than in the US. I'm kind of expecting it to be calm here by the end of this year with general social acceptance following within the next 5 years.

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[arice]

Yes. It will calm down. This is the death throes of a generation that seeks to control conformity. Younger folk tend to be more tolerant of diversity. Ten years from now we'll be shocked that acceptance wasn't always a given.

To some extent it depends on us. If we make an effort to educate people who we are, people will be quicker to get used to us. If we don't it will take longer.

I agree.

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[Deborah]

It's also going to depend on who wins the White House as that will set the direction of the Supreme Court for a generation.


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[Emileeeee]

Yeah I think the election stuff is what's drumming up most of the attention. Hopefully it will die down afterwards.

I spent my whole life avoiding confrontation, except for my time in the military. I came out just as this was escalating and I did it because of the hate I was seeing online from my own friends about trans people. I actually jumped into the confrontation of my own free will. Most of my friends changed their tune when I did that. The ones that didn't are no longer friends.

It's still a little frightening to know I'm walking around with a giant bullseye on my back. Not just any bullseye. Not one that a few random people are aiming at. One that multiple governments are aiming at. But I can't stay on the sidelines and watch my only path to happiness be torched. And I never would have had the courage to combat this if I wasn't out yet.

Personally I think more people need to find that courage at this particular moment in time. The people that would change their tunes if they knew someone personally that was trans, never will if that person doesn't come out to them. In the meantime those people are on board against us when they could be an ally instead.

It's easier today than it ever was in the past, but it's also scarier because now people are actually looking for us. I still wouldn't change the decision I made though. I'm happier than I ever was in my life despite current politics. It's a tough decision though. I'm not sure if I could have made it if I had waited until now to do it.

[MisterQueer]

I think it really depends where you are. I think it will calm down faster in Canada (where I live) than in the US. I'm kind of expecting it to be calm here by the end of this year with general social acceptance following within the next 5 years.

I agree with you. I'm in the US and I think a lot of this controversy was created by marriage equality all throughout the country 11 months ago. And Canada, if I'm not mistaken, legalized same-sex marriage all throughout the country in 2005. Since the conservative politicians in the US realized they lost the fight to gay rights, they moved onto the next group: the trans community.

[arice]

I agree with you. I'm in the US and I think a lot of this controversy was created by marriage equality all throughout the country 11 months ago. And Canada, if I'm not mistaken, legalized same-sex marriage all throughout the country in 2005. Since the conservative politicians in the US realized they lost the fight to gay rights, they moved onto the next group: the trans community.

Yes. We legalized gay marriage in 2005 and the opposition to it died quickly (within a year or two in most places). The current backlash against our recent transgender protections reminds me of that but if anything, it feels like it will be over faster since the antitrans activists here come of looking more like lunatics than the homophobes did a decade ago.

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[veritatemfurto]

It really all depends on who wins the Presidential election. If Bernie Sanders or that other democratic candidate wins, things will be solidified for the better...

BUT if Trumpy Mc Drumph rigs the election, things could get much worse. Regardless of if he is merely drumming up more of the dummy vote or not, he has made his intentions clear to reverse ALL of the progress the Obama Administration has done, and then some. There is potential for things to get as bad for us as they were for people of color during the Civil Rights Movements (CRM) of the 60s-70s, like instead of places having "no n****s" signs, there would be "no queers" signs... I wouldn't be surprised if he even proposes some sort of "Mutant Queer Registration Act."

However, for any of us that have fought long and hard to get this far through the personal trials and unrelenting adversity we've all faced, I don't think many of us would go quietly. They only have to win once to ruin a whole lot of progress, but we have to keep fighting to keep things from repeating history. With certain State "governments" now taking sides with the likes of the twits of the AFA, WBC, and now even the KooKoo Klans that fuel the fires against Equality, it begs an interesting question based on if things get that far: the CRM had Black Panthers... would our movement have Pink Panthers?

So, it's imperative that EVERYONE on here that is or knows someone in the USA gets their votes in for the best interests of the United States.

[Midnightstar]

Title's question. Anyways, I'm getting kind of sick of it. I'm always hearing stuff about bathrooms on the news, discussions about trans people, etc. I plan on coming out in a few years time, but I don't want to do it during the climax of trans-panic/anti trans-panic, that's just asking for trouble. How many years will it take for trans people to not be such a hot topic in the media? Five years? Ten years? Even more than that? What do you think?

You should come out when you're comfortable don't get me wrong but i have came out and so far
i haven't gotten that much negativity besides a couple smart remarks form people. But then again i live in a small area. I guess it depends but i wouldn't be to concerned. ^.^
Anyways, i don't know when it will calm down and i won't lie i may not be sure when but almost always they'll be people dislike something or not understanding something weather its about us or something else.
I bet it may go on for a while but i think its going to slow down soon after everything on the news related to it comes to a halt, so my guess is it won't go on for very much longer but i think we'll always have some amount of
ignorance in the world. I told my friend today i was scared of that and she told me they'll always be jerks but
like she told me just be yourself it'll be okay you'll meet good people along the line.
Plus i'm pretty sure support out does a lot of the negativity, in other words i could bet we have more support in this world along with good respectful people then we do bad.  I doubt all of this will be a huge thing for long and i'm sure once everything passes over it'll all be good again

[stephaniec]

I think the term when hell freezes over when applied to a certain sector of society.

[Rejennyrated]

Look I've been living as openly trans for firty one years and post op for around thirty of them. In that time I've seen interest and hostility come and go, but interestingly, in America at least, it is now far worse than it was in the 1960's 1970's and 1980's.

My feeling is that things are reaching a head, and that there may soon be a moment of decicion, but that like Britains membership of the EU, there are some sections of society who will never accept it, and hence the issue will never really go away.

[stephaniec]

Gays are becoming main stream, but they are still used to tell people they will go to Hell. That sadly will always be there for some.