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Walmart refuses to state its transgender bathroom policy after repeated requests

Started by stephaniec, May 27, 2016, 01:00:47 PM

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stephaniec

Walmart refuses to state its transgender bathroom policy after repeated requests

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/walmart-won-state-transgender-bathroom-policy-requests-article-1.2651162

The New York Daily News/BY JASON SILVERSTEINNEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Thursday, May 26, 2016, 6:06 PM

"Inquiries to Walmart's media relations team were first sent last Tuesday, after The News wrote about a Connecticut woman who said she was harassed in a Walmart bathroom after being mistaken as transgender. Her story earned national attention — but never earned a response from Walmart.

Walmart's silence puts it in stark contrast with one of its biggest competitors, Target, which emphatically stated last month it supports the right of transgender shoppers and workers to use whichever bathroom they choose."
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Tysilio

How nice to see Walmart between a rock and a hard place: Connecticut's very excellent anti-discrimination laws on one side, and the opinions of their troglodyte customers on the other.
Never bring an umbrella to a coyote fight.
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Beth Andrea

I've used WalMart bathrooms, never had a problem.

Then again, I think most people don't make a fuss, it's only a small handful who are loud, rude, and obnoxious.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

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Dee Marshall

One of my colleagues responded to the usual anti trans rants on Facebook by whining about how I came out of another stall as she was leaving hers. Evidently she forgot that she Facebook-friended me and I would see it. I didn't acknowledge her existence for three weeks. Our management has made their support of the store's small group of trans women very clear so nothing is ever said to us. Unfortunately, with no corporate direction each store is on its own.
April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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Now Chloe

I know this is an old thread but I have something to add to it.

Recently I encountered an MTF girl working as a cashier at one of my local walmarts. I prefer to avoid Homer Simpson and his trailer park gf but sometimes I have to go there.

Anyway, a few weeks ago I noticed Claire and it looks like she's taking hormones but I could still peg her.

I very much wanted to ask which restroom she uses but I let it go when a Homer got in line behind me. I didn't want to blow the girl's cover or make for an awkward situation. I happened across Claire again this afternoon but again didn't have a chance to ask.
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Katie Evelyn

I know this topic is fairly old, and I'm not sure if this goes against any rules or anything. But even if Walmart doesn't want to publicize it's bathroom policy. As a Walmart Associate myself, I just want to say that the policies Walmart has in place in terms of treating Transgender individuals is actually rather great. Not just with bathroom usage, but with working there and which pronouns and names should be used. Now, that being said I don't know if (1) the policy extends to customers or just associates, and (2) if Walmart trains it's associates on these matters. I know they train the managers as our manager recently had to go get training, although him talking with me I think prepared him for a lot of what to expect since I've got the policy more or less memorized. ^_^

tl;dr, if you go to a Walmart, have no fear of using whichever bathroom you truly identity with. If you have any problems, ask to speak with a member of management, they should be trained on how to properly assist you and protect you if need be.  :)
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Amanda_Combs

What area are you in?  I'm really curious if what state you're in matters as far as what procedure is, or the facility's willingness to follow it.
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Katie Evelyn

Quote from: Amanda_Combs on November 12, 2016, 09:12:49 AM
What area are you in?  I'm really curious if what state you're in matters as far as what procedure is, or the facility's willingness to follow it.

Mississippi, which as most of y'all probably know, is anything but progressive in terms of Trans Friendliness. But, as far as I know, all facilities must follow the policy or it can be reported to the Global Ethics Hotline in which corporate would get involved, which most managers would prefer to avoid.
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ErinS

Quote from: Katie Evelyn on November 12, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
Mississippi, which as most of y'all probably know, is anything but progressive in terms of Trans Friendliness. But, as far as I know, all facilities must follow the policy or it can be reported to the Global Ethics Hotline in which corporate would get involved, which most managers would prefer to avoid.

I can't blame them for avoiding being dragged into the bathroom wars tbh, considering how Target hemorrhaged billions even with more "upscale" clientele.   
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Katie Evelyn

@ErinS, I absolutely agree with you on that. At the time it seemed like a PR nightmare to make it public. I imagine Walmart will never talk about it, and people will progressively figure out that no one is enforcing any anti-trans policies, and just assume that the policy is how it in fact is.

I've given a copy of our policy to my therapist for her to see and share with others transgender individuals who see her, so if they are having a hard time finding work they can try Walmart with the confidence that at least the policy exists to protect them.

Although to be fair, IF you are able to pass as either gender currently and are looking for work, I honestly suggest presenting as your birth gender(male in my case) for the interview and initial hiring process, and during orientation ask your workplace's stance on Gender Equality in the workplace. Your PR lady or man should be able to help you get the information you need. Regardless of policies, I'd say go ahead and present as your expressed gender after orientation as much as you'd like. This is more-so for the early stages, and if you want to show up to orientation as your true self then that's fine too, it just could shock the person who hired you, or the person organizing the orientation when you speak to them.

This is more or less advice for less trans-friendly states, as it will help prevent trans-discrimination during the initial hiring process. Then at least if they 'fire' you immediately after that, you know the specific reason.

When I went to work at my specific Walmart, I came in to the interview, and was interviewed by an older Asian lady. I presented as male and spoke in a male voice, I still had longer hair but wore it back in a ponytail. When I was called in for a 'second interview' I came as male and that was when I was hired. I came back in one last time as male for orientation and when name badges were being made that was when I told my PR lady that I did not go by my birth name. She asked what name I went by, when I told her 'Katie', she said she wasn't sure if I could use that name since it was so different than my birth name. That was when I simply asked 'Does Walmart not have any Gender Equality Policies?' and I asked in a very polite way. She simply told me that she did not know, but would find out and let me know after we had our lunch break.

It wasn't until I got back that she explained that one manager she spoke to said 'No' to the name, but she researched it and found Walmart's VERY open policy for Gender Identity. I can go into more details but basically she went over it with me, and it is against Walmart's policy for anyone to call me by male pronouns, treat me in a specifically male way, call me by my birth name(Managers may do this accidentally as on the schedule/paperwork your legal name is shown, so it may take them some time), and it also says you follow the dress code of your presenting gender(female in my case, YAY SKIRTS/CAPRIS!) and use the restroom facilities of your identified gender.

This doesn't have anything in it about even being on HRT or 'passing'. As long as you truly present and feel as your true gender, they will work with you. It doesn't specifically outline saying anything about non-binary, however I'd say it's reasonable to speak with your managers if you are non-binary, and respectfully explain your situation in a calm and kind manner. Remember, this is all new to MANY many people. Tolerance from us, will grant us tolerance to them.

To many of my co-workers(who ALL know I'm trans since I'm open about it), I am the first transgender person they've met. And so far, all but two love me. I get nice comments from them semi-frequently and they all respect my name and gender. =)
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Gamergirl

I live in Tennessee and work at a Walmart distribution center.  Management as well as fellow employees have been very bathroom friendly as well as workplace discrimination intolerant. Great place to work, and proud to.  :)
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VeronicaLynn

I happened upon a Sears with a gender neutral bathroom today.

Never understood why Walmart is so much more popular than Sears owned Kmart...Kmart's clothes seem way more fashionable...

I buy most of my stuff at Target still...gotta vote with my wallet, Target went to bat for us, and they will be rewarded, at least by me.
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