I'm just going to say it

[Riley the tiger]

you really must not know what sacrifice is of your mix it with mutual trading. but that's OK, very few people know what it means to truly sacrifice. I can saying sacrificing your dreams in order to have kids is a type of sacrifice but it isn't the type I'm talking about either. I'm talking about the ultimate sacrifice, the type you'd have to literally die in order to understand. I hate to be a broken record but I've been there done that more times than I can count. I've seen and touched what's on the other side so k have a higher understanding. but I'm not even going to get into that anymore because I'm not going to beat a dead horse. I rather let people experience it than me just talking about it

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[autumn08]

you really must not know what sacrifice is of your mix it with mutual trading. but that's OK, very few people know what it means to truly sacrifice. I can saying sacrificing your dreams in order to have kids is a type of sacrifice but it isn't the type I'm talking about either. I'm talking about the ultimate sacrifice, the type you'd have to literally die in order to understand. I hate to be a broken record but I've been there done that more times than I can count. I've seen and touched what's on the other side so k have a higher understanding. but I'm not even going to get into that anymore because I'm not going to beat a dead horse. I rather let people experience it than me just talking about it

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In my first response, I agreed with you that all of our actions are selfish, and tried to show you that the amorality of our actions is nothing to feel bad about, but now when I questioned your statement that human action is always a zero sum game, you claimed there is a distinction between selfish and unselfish actions. You can't have it both ways, and believe we're incapable of unselfishness and be disappointed that we aren't acting unselfishly enough.

However, if what you're trying to say with this thread is that overall the world should act more compassionately, then I think only the most ardent follower of Ayn Rand would disagree with you.

[Riley the tiger]

the world needs to sit the heck down and learn to handle situations and not throw tantrums every time they don't get their way. I can careless of people suddenly woke up and become more compassionate as long as people would stop acting like children.

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