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Being dragged out of the closet with little respect?

Started by Gilbert Rose, June 09, 2016, 08:52:33 AM

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Gilbert Rose

(I don't want to use names in the risk of family finding this, please say if it's hard to read.)

So. The first person within family that I came out to was my father, bless his soul. He took time to accept, as he was in his fifties and didn't grow up with all the media coverage transsexuals get these days. Once he had accepted it, he did tell aunt1.

I decided to come out to aunt1 over a month ago, only to find she already knew about it, and how I had talked about wanting treatment (hormonal therapy). I do not know who else my father had told, and I am not mad, annoyed or angry over his actions. He needed someone to tell. Someone to talk to about it. He has passed, so I don't know who else he told. But I hold no negative emotions towards that, or him.

What I do not like, is that my extended family are deciding to tell one another, too. Aunt1 told my cousin, but apparently she had already "guessed it", and she's told another aunt of mine; aunt2. Now, I don't know who is aware or not. It's mostly how they're telling each other that bothers me, not that they're passing it along so secretly...
What they're saying is that I want to be a boy, and god knows what else they're saying in regards to this. Cousin decided to show aunt2 a relatively new photo of me from my Facebook, me with short hair, and then told aunt2 that I want to become a boy... That I'm trying to. I'm thinking of blocking her now. ;~;

I just wish I could of told them, individually, and been able to explain properly.
Because it's not me "wanting to become a boy" as my mind is already of a boys. I've got a boys mind with a girls body, I want to fix the mistake. It feels as if my family are talking about me behind by back, and I'm getting the feeling that it's not good talk.

Most, if not all of my aunts and uncles seem a bit iffy when it comes to homosexuals. They don't think it's normal, but that it's weird...

Why do family do this? Tell each other and explain in... One of the worst ways possible? I know, I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but I'm not a girl wanting to be a boy. I've got a boys mind and a girls body. I want to fix the mistakes. I'm just a transsexual. Why can't they just tell each other that? "Oh, deadname is saying that they're a transsexual!" Is something I'd prefer any day, compared to "aunt2! Look at this photo of deadname! They've cut their hair short as they're wanting to become a boy!"

The secrecy of it all is a bit off putting, if I'm honest. I have to ask aunt1 now and again who knows... Because otherwise, I'd be clueless. My family are clearing talking with each other about this. Otherwise aunt1 wouldn't be aware of who knows what.
Aunt1 and cousin are talking.

What exactly am I meant to do in this situation? I'm meeting aunt2 later next week. She wanted to spend some time with me alone, and she's got that. About three hours... For a drive. Gulp. I want to explain that I'm simply a transsexual - that I've got a boys mind and a girls body. That I've never been a girl. But what even is a transsexual in the mind of possible homophobes in their 50s? Will they be thinking like, rocky horror? I have an idea that the picture in their head isn't a pretty one.

Their ideas of homosexuals is that they're all very feminine and not to be trusted around children; that they're a bit wrong in the head. Dirty and weird... That's their opinion not mine... Oh, what I'll happen when they find out I'm a homosexual too. Their opinions on transsexuals aren't good, either... I'd rather not type up all of that, though. Rather block it out of my mind.

Sorry for the length of this. Help a brother out? Like, what even am I meant to do, to clear up this mess that's been made? Is it right for family to do this? I feel a bit... Betrayed.



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Elis

I'm in a sort of similar situation. I told my relatives through email that I'm transgender; have changed my name and have started T. But have yet to receive any replies; even though I said feel free to ask any questions  in my emails. I suspect they are talking about it amongst themselves; which is understandable. But I don't they actually understand what transgender means as they're quite conservative; middle aged and I'm the only queer one in the family. I have a family reunion coming up so hopefully that'll clear the air. I'm just going to act like myself; if they have a problem with me that's their problem.

I'd simply tell your aunt that you do have a boys mind buy female chromosomes. That this has been proven scientificly and the only way of treating it is being referred to as male because that is what you are. Unfortunately because of your age it's going to take some time and possibly multiple conversations; but at least you have this opportunity coming up to finally break the ice. Just remember to be confident. You know yourself better than anyone.

Good luck :)
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Denise

I have told a number of 50+ year olds, of which I'm one.  I found that starting with what is gender dysphoria and how it affects you will go a long way for people to understand.

One of the main things on others mind, I've found, is sexual orientation.  You might want to address that too. The less guessing people do, the less misinformation they will, hopefully, spread.

It sounds like you have a very close family.  Try to educate them as soon as possible so they don't get bad information from well meaning friends.  Education is key. 

If you are fighting a religious battle you will have other issues.  I would suggest words like God's love, acceptance, forgiveness, understanding. Jesus never threw stones at those unlike him. He would pray for them. (Just an option.). You could also run like hell in the other direction too.

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Gilbert Rose

Quote from: pj on June 09, 2016, 11:26:09 AM
One of the main things on others mind, I've found, is sexual orientation.  You might want to address that too. The less guessing people do, the less misinformation they will, hopefully, spread.

It sounds like you have a very close family.  Try to educate them as soon as possible so they don't get bad information from well meaning friends.  Education is key. 

If you are fighting a religious battle you will have other issues.  I would suggest words like God's love, acceptance, forgiveness, understanding. Jesus never threw stones at those unlike him. He would pray for them. (Just an option.).

I definitely will mention gender dysphoria after explaining that I'm transsexual. I'll tell them what transsexual *really* means, and will say that my body brings me a lot of trouble... And go into a bit of detail about that. Thanks, as I wasn't so sure if I should bother with all of that. I must remember to explain very simply...

Ah yes, lots of people have been asking if I'm "just a lesbian." Nope. I'm "just a transsexual and homosexual." But that will be a lot for them to take in. That I will grow up to be a man, who loves other men. I've given them a nightmare...

My family is close, but not so much with me. I'm in care so I feel like I've kinda been cut out of the family... They don't see me much, compared to how much they legally are allowed to. :( Contact was completely dropped at one point, after my cousin found out... I'll try by best to educate them when I next seem them (about a week from now.)

Aunt2 is Chirstian or Catholic, I don't even know the difference between them. She actually believes in it unlike most other members in my family. She's married into the family, and I think she had a religious upbringing... Not like Bible Belt level, but just... Proper religious family.

Quote from: pj on June 09, 2016, 11:26:09 AM
You could also run like hell in the other direction too.
sounds like a good plan. My back up plan, riiight there.

You see, with my family, except aunt2, it isn't really a "religious battle" as to say. It's more of the time that they grew up that effects this? They grew up when transsexuality was literally unheard of to them. Homosexuality was only just being spoken about, and what they heard wasn't great. People where extremely homophobic then. Over here people are still iffy with it all... Still no same sex marriages either. The time they grew up effects even aunt2 and her opinions. They just don't understand it. I don't think they will.

My dad became accepting, but still didn't understand it. It's something he couldn't get his head around, due to the way he was raised. This might be one where I do need to run like hell and just leave for sometime... Give them time to cool off...



[First passed Wednesday 8th June, 2016]
Well, they're never gonna get me,
Like a bullet through a flock of doves...
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Gilbert Rose

Quote from: Elis on June 09, 2016, 09:02:11 AM
I'm in a sort of similar situation. I told my relatives through email that I'm transgender; have changed my name and have started T. But have yet to receive any replies; even though I said feel free to ask any questions  in my emails. I suspect they are talking about it amongst themselves; which is understandable. But I don't they actually understand what transgender means as they're quite conservative; middle aged and I'm the only queer one in the family. I have a family reunion coming up so hopefully that'll clear the air. I'm just going to act like myself; if they have a problem with me that's their problem.

**some may find triggering**

Yeah, my family stopped contact when cousin told aunt2. Aunt2 can't keep anything to herself, she would of definitely of told her husband, and maybe even my other uncles... They might all know now, with her mouth... Or maybe she's ashamed and won't tell. Either way, they'll find out at some point. They've probably made a big deal about it.

Maybe you should try calling your family members... The ones you are closer to? My family don't get what transsexual means either. They think it's a man who dresses as a women to trick men into bed with them, or a women who dresses as a man to trick women into bed with them. Niiiice... So basically, they think it's homosexuals playing dress up.

I'm not aiming to trick anyone, but that'll be something they'll probably think for sometime. Which I can understand... There are people who think it's a delusion, and thus a mental illness... That's another problem, my family do think that transsexuality is a mental illness. *long, deep sigh* ... This isn't backed up by any religious wack, it's just... Old thinking they have?

I'm the only queer one too, as far as we're aware. I've been wanting a family member to come out just to know I have some secure support... I'll have their back too.. It's good you've got a family reunion. My family has been thinking of doing on every year or so. Just be yourself like you said, they'll have get used to it. If you look like a male in your family, they might be a bit weirded out by that, but it'll fade. I'm worried about looking like my father, as that would bring a bit of upset along with it too... ;~; not my problem. It's also not your fault if you look like another member in your family... Just genetics.

Quote from: Elis on June 09, 2016, 09:02:11 AM
I'd simply tell your aunt that you do have a boys mind buy female chromosomes. That this has been proven scientificly and the only way of treating it is being referred to as male because that is what you are. Unfortunately because of your age it's going to take some time and possibly multiple conversations; but at least you have this opportunity coming up to finally break the ice. Just remember to be confident. You know yourself better than anyone.

Good luck :)

Wait, it's actually proven? I've read about transsexuals having different brain structures compared to cis guys and cis women, and that the transsexual brain is in a sense, unique. That the male transsexual has a brain more like a cis guys more than anything else. Same with transsexual women, them having brains closer to cis women then anything else. And that transsexual people naturally have higher levels in the main hormone of their gender they think themselves to be.

Are you meaning that when you say proven, or is there new stuff I'm unaware of?

I'll definitely mention that the only way of treating this, is for me to live as a young man. That it's much better for my health. I'll tell them that I'm socially transitioning, explain that and at a later date, ask them to go along with it...

Thanks, good luck to you too with your family reunion! 🌸



[First passed Wednesday 8th June, 2016]
Well, they're never gonna get me,
Like a bullet through a flock of doves...
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Elis

I have one aunt who did email back and is totally supportive so that's great :). I don't have my cousins email addresses so I just emailed my aunts and uncles who I'm sure will pass the information on. The trouble is I'm not close to my relatives at all. I haven't seen the ones who live in the UK for two years and the supportive one (who lives in Australia) I don't think I've seen in 4 or so years. You're lucky in a way that you see family often; probably make it quicker for them to be supportive :)

These are these two articles I've found a while back just by tapping in 'transgender brains' on Google. Of course more research needs to be done but the initial studies seem promising.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/
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