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Quote from: RenegadeGirl on June 28, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
I don't know the full details of your relationship with your Dad, but to me it sounds like he is very selective about what he wants to acknowledge, which isn't great at all when there is something really important you want to talk to him about. Obviously I'm just saying how things seem from what you've told us, but I'm not surprised that you have strong anxiety about coming out or even talking about your feelings after the only person you chose to confide in turned a blind eye. It is so important to remember though that everyone is different, and there are loads of people who will be a thousand times more supportive than your Father, people like your therapist who only want to help you through all the distress you feel every day.

Lily
No, you pegged him right. Only things he's ever interested in talking about are what he wants to talk about. Whenever I bring something up he's basically groaning he's so uninterested, or he says how that's the way the world is, just forget it, like it shouldn't bother me because the world is ->-bleeped-<- or something.

My father has a tendency to get angry pretty easily, he always says he's not angry, but if you'd hear his voice you'd think he was. So over the years, I've been saying less and less to him because of how it always ends up going bad for me no matter what I say, to the point that now most of what I say is just in my head and never out loud.

And awhile back I confronted him about this, I practically begged him to try and stay calmer when we talk about things like crap in the world, or most recently about my money, and I told him how I've basically become absolutely terrified to say anything to him, because how he sounds at those times scares the crap out of me now, and upsets the hell out of me. And I told him that I don't want to feel like that, like I can't tell him things. And how the last time I told him something, it didn't even turn out badly and I felt like I was having a panic attack. And it was just about a game I bought on sale. For 16 dollars.

And how does he respond? By doing exactly what I begged him, pleaded with him basically, not to do. And not even about what I was saying, no, it's like he didn't hear a word I said, probably because he really doesn't give two flying ->-bleeped-<-s how I feel about anything, no, he goes off on how, You have to save your money better! You don't need to buy anything, it doesn't matter if you want it!

So yeah, he's basically a piece of ->-bleeped-<-. And he doesn't even believe he is whatsoever. I sure as hell am never gonna mention it, knowing how badly telling him that other thing went.

QuoteThis seems to be pretty common with us.

Several years ago I did a remodel of our master bath.  At the time, I had a pretty good idea that I secretly wanted a female body, was dressing in secret, and had been this way for decades. In the remodel, without any conscious thought regarding my dysphoria, I got rid of the huge low topped double vanity and wall sized mirror. I installed jack-n-jill high topped single vanities, each with its own oval adjustable tilt mirror.

It wasn't til recently that I consciously realized that the setup made it impossible to see anything below the waist in the mirrors as I walked between the shower and closet. Tricksy subconscious minds...
My minds kinda the exact opposite, I can't stop obsessing and looking at things that upset me, it's why I try to avoid the mirror as much as possible, cause if I look I'll end up standing there fretting over how much it bothers me for several minutes. And taking showers have basically become miserable for me. Which really sucks as I take one every day. It's the only way I can wake up.

I'm just looking my body over all, ugh, especially my chest, I hate how flat it is, and I'm constantly looking down at it, or I'm like squeezing the skin on my chest together to like, like pinching, and it's not the same obviously, but when I look down while doing that my chest isn't flat, and it feels good for a moment. But it's every shower like this.

I've never been able to stop looking at things that upset me. It's like, very minor example, that Kevin Smith movie Tusk. When I first watched the trailer, the plotline upset me so much, and I knew there was no way in hell I ever wanted to see that movie. And I still haven't, and never will. But every so often since then I find myself either looking up details on the plot, or once even images of what the ending looks like, and everytime it upsets the hell out of me, and yet eventually I still look again. Though maybe not for Tusk, but something else, but my point still stands.
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Reyes

Okay, so in an extreme funk right now, well, depression really, so I'm gonna post what I'm feeling here, cause, well, that's why I made this thread.

Okay, so I can't stand this, my mind pretty much never stops thinking, its always gotten annoying some times, I can't seem to shut it off no matter what, I think it's like the only aspect of aspergers I got stuck with. But I just, when I start, which is pretty often I just can't stop thinking about what I'm going through and it makes me so miserable because I just can't tell anyone, I don't even know the exact reason, just sometimes I get gripped with such fear, or panic, or whatever that makes my throat feel like it's tightening up, and I start repeating I can't, I can't, and that I have to live my life as a guy as best as I possibly can, and I'm not trans, I'm not trans, even though I know I am but I'm like in panic mode so.

I mean I can't stand living this way every single day unable to shut up my overactive mind, I just wish the world would decide to either let me have this, I don't know how but any way is good. Or just wipe every last thought about the fact that I am out of my mind. I'll still end up being miserable my whole life, but at least I'll go back to not knowing why, it was so much easier then..
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Dena

 Your post made me go over your posting history and I caught something I hadn't picked up on before. I could be wrong on this but some of what you describe is Fluid gender/Bigender. I have a few links you might want to look at and see if they match what you feel. The first is our WIKI and you only need to click on the Bigender link. The next two links were when I was first learning about this identity so there is a good deal of give and take in the posting. Let me know what you think.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,202966.0.html

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,201219.0.html
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Reyes

No, no, that doesn't fit me.

I don't feel one gender sometimes and another other times, I feel the same all the time.

It's just sometimes I start panicking at random, and sometimes when that happens, I'm repeating I'm not trans, I was wrong in my head, even though at the back of my mind I know that's not true.
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Reyes

#44
I am a idiot! //slams head against wall

That's just to illustrate how much I hate myself right now, I didn't actually do it so don't worry.

Today was my second appointment with my psychologist and just like the first time I choked up and couldn't get myself to say anything about all this...

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Michelle_P

It may sound trite, but try writing it down.  Just hold the paper in your hand when you go in for the next appointment.  If you can, hand it to the therapist, but don't hide the paper.  Keep it visible.  It may prompt you to say something, or read it about, or the therapist may ask you about it.  It's a relatively passive way to bring up a topic.

I've done this to keep from getting myself sidetracked. (Really, avoiding an issue by running out the clock talking about something, anything else.)
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Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
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Reyes

I've considered doing that as well, but I'm to much of, as I said earlier, a cowardly pathetic excuse for a human being to even do that.

Pretty much at this point no matter how much I may hate the fact, and how much I may fight myself on it, I'm pretty much guaranteed to live my entire life alone and miserable.

I mean I can hardly voice my opinion when it comes to where we go out to eat on Sundays for Christs sake.

If I were to be attached to a conveyor belt, with a rope around my leg pulling me into a giant trash compactor, and the only way I could get out of it would be to cut off the rope, but in doing so I'd slice my leg open, like in one of those games in the Saw movies, I wouldn't even be able to do that and just get eaten by the thing.

I seriously thank you all for your posts, but you have far to much belief in me, there's just nothing there. You shouldn't waste your time on me, I'm a lost cause.
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Reyes

Sorry about last night, I have a hard time doubting what I said on the alone thing.

But I really shouldn't of been so negative last night, I was in a pretty dark moment.

You may of noticed by now but I'm really not a positive person at all. lol
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RenegadeGirl

I think it's ok to vent about how you're feeling somewhere instead of just bottling it up. It does make me sad to keep hearing you call yourself pathetic though, since it feels like you're using everyone else's standards, and ignoring that there is a huge amount of distress you are dealing with that would make life a struggle for anyone. It might come off like I'm being nice because it 'sounds right', but I honestly believe that you should give yourself some slack, since anyone would be in a similar position to you when wrestling with the foundations of who they are.

Lily
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Dena

The transition is not simple and emotions can end up tearing you in two. The good news is if you continue to deal with them, they will be resolved and you will never have to face them again. I may look like I have it really put together and I have but many years ago I was pretty much in the same place you are. I had all my issues taken care of before surgery and have never had to deal with them again. You are here to do the same and there will be a few setbacks. We understand and we are here when you need us.
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Reyes

Quote from: suzifrommd on June 14, 2016, 06:58:54 PM
Is it possible you have some shame about transitioning?

I sure did. "What would they think of me?" I sort of had the sense they'd see me as someone who couldn't curb my urges or something. It wasn't until I actually started the process and realized what a challenge it was that I started becoming proud of myself for coming through the other end.
I just realized recently that what you describe these is indeed exactly what I feel a good amount of the time.
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Reyes

Y'know, it's weird, and I don't fully understand it, but my whole life I've really never liked myself to much. Maybe I did at one point, who knows, I just can't remember any point where I did.

And yet, and I just realized I'd been feeling this for awhile today, but despite being absolutely miserable a good amount of basically every day, and despite occasionally getting in a funk where I think horrible things about myself, despite all of that, there also, like in the back, it's small which is why I just realized what it was, but. And the fact that I'm still miserable even after realizing this that confuses me, but I actually like myself for once.

My whole life as Robert I've hated myself, but even though I'm only her in my mind and online thus far, and for who knows how long, if anything ever happens, I love Regan so much.
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Michelle_P

It's not weird.  I'm convinced that self-loathing is a big factor in gender dysphoria.  I know that I hate seeing my male self and I loathe having to be Michael, to the point of self-destruction.  As Michelle, I'm very happy with myself, and I actually love life.  Alas, I can't be Michelle all the time.
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
Michelle's personal blog and biography
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Reyes

Gods, Sundays are always the worse, which I'm sure is about completely to do with being around my family all day, when usually I only see them a few minutes a day due to almost never leaving my room anymore.

Just a few minutes ago I really don't know if I was actually thinking of transitioning, or coming out, can't really remember if I was thinking of anything honestly, and then I just get this like stab of fear that's like so intense and centered around the thought of them knowing like after I come out or whatever. And yet all day I feel worse and worse about how I want to so badly and yet I somehow just know I can never get myself to do so, and all the hating everything about myself and the way I look and always towards my father for forgetting that time, and how uninterested he seemed at the time.

And I honestly don't know what to do, but in another two weeks we're going on vacation together, which means four hours in a car with them non stop, and then a week in a hotel where I don't have a room to go in to avoid them, which means sitting in the same room with them whenever we're in the room.

If I feel so godawful after only four hours with them how in the hell am I going to survive a whole week.
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Dena

This is not a cure but it buys time. I always have thought projects or book that I can lose my self in, you will have to show your face for family activities but when you can, retreat to your own mind. In my case it was science fiction or one of my hobbies. If you game on a laptop, that could be an option for you.

I still use it sometimes when I have to wait for a doctor appointment or I have to kill a few minutes because of an unexpected delay.
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Reyes

I try to keep myself occupied as much as possible, still doesn't always help though, especially with my sisters kid always making distracting noise, and then the Uncle Robert talk from people to her which I just hate hearing.

Though really the baby is pretty much the only family member I have that I feel any kind of familial connection to anymore. But considering she isn't even a year old that could just be because of the cuteness factor.

Oh, and thought I'd post this here, but, https://www.ivona.com/

It's a free text to speech online thing, I guess showing off some tablet app, but you can type stuff in and pick an accent, my favorite is English, British, Amy. For some reason the American ones sound like Siri.

But anyway, using it I heard my name said out loud for the first time by another voice besides my own and it I guess felt good, kinda hard to tell how things feel at times, but it didn't feel bad so.
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Reyes

#56
Today's been a good day, no horrible thoughts, really I've barely thought about it at all. Honestly it actually worries me how little I've thought on it. lol

EDIT: Addition to this, I think the reason is because last night, my father was in my room doing some work on the cabinets in the small tiny hall to my bathroom, and I dunno, by the end it kinda, like things felt more how they used to. I've still been jumpy and not exactly great today at certain points, but things feel more like they did.

Of course I'm sure once all the feelings start coming back as they always do in the end that'll go away, lol.
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Reyes

I am so very confused right now, lol. As I said earlier I haven't been thinking about things much at all today, and now I find myself feeling horrible that I haven't felt horrible today. lol
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Reyes

Welp, I was right about how good I felt yesterday coming back to bite me in the ass. Been feeling absolutely horrid today, basically the opposite of yesterday.


Y'know earlier today, I couldn't help but wonder how blind I was. For years now, since I believe the last year or so of high school, maybe before that, not really sure. I know it's pretty much been since I discovered this one game X-Change. I've so many times while either in the shower, or before bed, thinking how I wish there was some kind of pill that changed your gender, or like in some comics I had the ability to switch back and forth at will, and sometimes before bed I would wish I would somehow wake up the next morning as a girl, and everyone would remember me being so my whole life even though I remember that not being the case.

And these two webcomics I read that feature a male character turned female at the start of the series and something going on through it is trying to turn back but being unable to and I'm always like, why?

Plus I've always loved the idea of being in a lesbian relationship, I always cared more about those, any ship I have is between two women, never a man and woman, like ever.

And yet until November of last year I never once gave any of that a second thought, never even considered it was anything. I dunno.
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Reyes

Quick question, been wondering if this is part of the gender dysphoria. But at times when I like, see how certain aspects of myself would look after transitioning, like in my current avi, ((Please excuse the clothes, sadly I've been stuck with a sister with horrid tastes and there's no one else)) and I dunno, it's odd, it feels good, I love it, and yet at the same time there's this slightly unnerved feeling running through it.

Like when I look at people transition timelines, I love looking through them, seeing how good things went for all these people, and wishing I could be one of them, and yet once again at the same time there's like this feeling in my throat, like it's tightening slightly, I dunno.

So yeah, I can't tell if it's my depression that's causing the unnervedness, or the dysphoria, or both are the same thing and they're both causing it or what. :3
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