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Started by EmilyRyan, July 16, 2016, 05:00:36 AM

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EmilyRyan

Quote from: Tristyn on July 18, 2016, 04:58:17 AM
Can't you apply for your own medical insurance and go to a psychiatrist by yourself like on a bus or taxi or something? There has to be another route besides through your parents. Part of becoming independent is letting go of your guardians like a baby bird learning to fly on its own for the first time, you need to learn how to fly, Emily. :)
There's TennCare (Tennessee's Medicaid) but even if I moved out, became completely independent, and even was homeless I wouldn't qualify since I'm not disabled because Tennessee refuses to expand Medicaid which would allow those with just low income to qualify (well maybe cause you know it's Tennessee).   
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EmilyRyan

I wonder if I ever be capable of performing jobs beyond entry level. I'd like to have a decent career one day. Every job beyond entry though requires a lot of skills that I can never grasp plus I can't handle most stress higher level jobs come with.

Is there any hope for me or am I bound to stock shelves for the rest of my life??
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Mariah

Emily I believe that it is possible you will. I know of many that started at the bottom and worked the way up even into management positions at places. Hugs
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EmilyRyan

I mean is it possible for people with certain neurological limitations, that makes most complex tasks rather more difficult, to be able work in higher positions?? I dream of one day having a higher paying job but I don't know if I could handle the tasks most higher jobs require. If I truly can't handle that what would be my best bet to do??   
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Katiepie

I'm doing okay. Not in my best, but managing.
Is there any possibilities in trying any of the options given? Or find something you would enjoy, and not necessarily lie in interview but stretch the truth in a few things, and once you get the job, as long as you enjoy it and have a good demeanor, I wouldn't see why you wouldn't stick with something. Find out what you are passionate about and then go for it. That sometimes would get you to where you need to go.

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Elis

As I said in an earlier post look into apprenticeships; most don't pay well but at keast you'd get your foot in the door for a career. And you can definitely wirk your way up. You just need to get into the swing of working and having that routine. And HRT should help with anxiety and confidence; which seems to be impacting you atm.
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AnxietyDisord3r

Quote from: EmilyRyan on July 16, 2016, 05:28:52 AM
I've thought about data entry jobs but what do you really do in most of those jobs and is the work normally hard or easy??

Also are there any jobs I could maybe do as a photographer besides doing weddings and family photos?? Like maybe take pictures for businesses to help promote the business or is it possible to take pictures for a news paper without having to do the journalism parts that involve writing??

I think what you're talking about is stock photography. You do photos on spec, then sometimes websites buy them for a small fee. I don't know how much money you can make at that especially if you're new, but it's worth looking into.
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AnxietyDisord3r

Quote from: EmilyRyan on July 18, 2016, 08:11:54 PM
I wonder if I ever be capable of performing jobs beyond entry level. I'd like to have a decent career one day. Every job beyond entry though requires a lot of skills that I can never grasp plus I can't handle most stress higher level jobs come with.

Is there any hope for me or am I bound to stock shelves for the rest of my life??

If you start doing jobs you will get more skilled at them. Don't get discouraged by the firings because the retail world is pretty hellish right now and people get fired for nothing. As the economy gets better, it will get easier to get a job and keep it.

Have you tried becoming a night clerk at a hotel? It's pretty cushy and slow paced as long as you're okay with staying up all night. Sometimes you have angry customers you have to placate but it seems to me that every hotel clerk ever is slow on the computer so you will be in good company. I know people who wrote novels and did major projects while night clerking at hotels. This might be a good job for you. They often pay above minimum wage because people willing to stay up all night are hard to find.
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AnxietyDisord3r

Quote from: EmilyRyan on July 18, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
I mean is it possible for people with certain neurological limitations, that makes most complex tasks rather more difficult, to be able work in higher positions?? I dream of one day having a higher paying job but I don't know if I could handle the tasks most higher jobs require. If I truly can't handle that what would be my best bet to do??

You work your way up like everyone else. You get experience and you get better at life. It's just slower for you than for others, and you need to learn to stop comparing yourself to everyone else and compare your progress to yourself.

As for your parents, have you tried putting your feelings about your job difficulties in a letter to your parents? Ask them what they envision for your future? Are they prepared for indefinite dependency? Would a diagnosis feel different if it helped you find jobs and keep them? Millions of people are in the workplace with developmental and learning disabilities after all.
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MissAmandaJones

I wouldn't work in a warehouse or a stocking job if I was a trans woman. I'd definitely look for a job where you might fit in. Try working at some place like Target. A retail store with a higher class clientele that won't judge you or harass you for being a woman. Retail jobs also aren't as fast paced as restaurant work. You just have to be polite.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: Elis on July 19, 2016, 04:00:52 AM
As I said in an earlier post look into apprenticeships; most don't pay well but at keast you'd get your foot in the door for a career. And you can definitely wirk your way up. You just need to get into the swing of working and having that routine. And HRT should help with anxiety and confidence; which seems to be impacting you atm.
Like what kind of apprenticeships?? Are they easy?? Any autistic friendly by any chance or at least help with learning disability??

Quote from: Katiepie on July 19, 2016, 12:24:32 AM
I'm doing okay. Not in my best, but managing.
Is there any possibilities in trying any of the options given? Or find something you would enjoy, and not necessarily lie in interview but stretch the truth in a few things, and once you get the job, as long as you enjoy it and have a good demeanor, I wouldn't see why you wouldn't stick with something. Find out what you are passionate about and then go for it. That sometimes would get you to where you need to go.
Hope things get better *hugs*

It depends on the difficulty of getting and working those jobs. As for passions photography seems out of the question due to lack of security and I don't think anyone is hiring map readers nowadays.

Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on July 19, 2016, 04:39:10 AM
You work your way up like everyone else. You get experience and you get better at life. It's just slower for you than for others, and you need to learn to stop comparing yourself to everyone else and compare your progress to yourself.

As for your parents, have you tried putting your feelings about your job difficulties in a letter to your parents? Ask them what they envision for your future? Are they prepared for indefinite dependency? Would a diagnosis feel different if it helped you find jobs and keep them? Millions of people are in the workplace with developmental and learning disabilities after all.
Like what if the employer doesn't give a chance to get better and just decides it's better to fire/let go that's my biggest fear of the workplace.

I'd like to tell my parents how I feel about things but I'm scared to. I think a diagnosis would make a world of difference in my ability to find and keep a job. 

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Elis

We have a government run website here in the UK which shows listing for apprenticeship vacancies for all kinds of careers. Surely America has the same sort of thing you can look through. Even if you don't want to do a particular career for life at least it's a step. And again I'd look for an autism charity or learning disability charity and ask for their advice.
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EmilyRyan

Ahh ok I realize now apprenticeship is different over in the UK than here in the US lol. When I think of apprentice in terms of jobs I think of trades like lineman, plumber, electrician, carpenter, etc. which most from other people's experience aren't quite suited for anybody with ASD.

Yeah I doubt there's any kind of website here in the US but anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 
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EmilyRyan

Also is there a way to bypass the competitive part of the hiring process??
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Mariah

Not generally. Most jobs have to by law I think give everyone a fair chance at getting the job they are taking job applications for. Hugs
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Quote from: EmilyRyan on July 19, 2016, 05:46:55 PM
Also is there a way to bypass the competitive part of the hiring process??
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Semira

Emily, I think your biggest obstacle is your mindset. You are too down on yourself and constantly come up with lists of reasons why you can't do this and can't do that. They're nothing more than excuses to protect yourself. I know how it is because I make excuses on why I can't/won't do things all the time. Changing your mindset is extremely difficult, especially without support, but unless it becomes more positive your chances of getting a job or succeeding in other areas will remain low.

I would toss out your ASD right from the start. It doesn't matter. Every human being has strengths and weaknesses. I've worked with people with significant mental disabilities who've held down jobs and you are way better off than they are. Nothing I've seen from your posts makes me think you aren't able to work. You are not broken. You are not incapable. All of these entry level jobs that have been discussed in these threads are all within your capabilities. You have to believe in yourself, focus on what you want in life, and work tirelessly to achieve it.

As far as jobs themselves...you aren't going to find an easy slow paced uncompetitive job that hands you money for just trying. If such a job existed then there would be 7 billion people applying for it. Work is hard. Work is stressful. Even entry level work. It's just a part of life that has to be accepted and dealt with. You don't have to be the fastest or the most competitive, you just have to be faster and more competitive than the person standing next to you.

Your inner dialog has to change. Before even looking for a job, make friends who will support you emotionally. If you can bring yourself to having a brighter outlook on things, you'll find that they aren't as difficult to conquer as you once thought.
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EmilyRyan

Quote from: Semira on July 19, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
Emily, I think your biggest obstacle is your mindset. You are too down on yourself and constantly come up with lists of reasons why you can't do this and can't do that. They're nothing more than excuses to protect yourself. I know how it is because I make excuses on why I can't/won't do things all the time. Changing your mindset is extremely difficult, especially without support, but unless it becomes more positive your chances of getting a job or succeeding in other areas will remain low.
I have changed my mind set believe it or not and I'm actually positive that I can get a job and I'm continuing to work on being more positive.   

Quote from: Semira on July 19, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
I would toss out your ASD right from the start. It doesn't matter. Every human being has strengths and weaknesses. I've worked with people with significant mental disabilities who've held down jobs and you are way better off than they are. Nothing I've seen from your posts makes me think you aren't able to work. You are not broken. You are not incapable. All of these entry level jobs that have been discussed in these threads are all within your capabilities. You have to believe in yourself, focus on what you want in life, and work tirelessly to achieve it.
Umm I can't just toss it out and forget sorry but ASD doesn't work like that and yes it does matter when it has significant impacts that affect being employed.

Quote from: Semira on July 19, 2016, 07:28:11 PM
As far as jobs themselves...you aren't going to find an easy slow paced uncompetitive job that hands you money for just trying. If such a job existed then there would be 7 billion people applying for it. Work is hard. Work is stressful. Even entry level work. It's just a part of life that has to be accepted and dealt with. You don't have to be the fastest or the most competitive, you just have to be faster and more competitive than the person standing next to you.
Be faster and more competitive than other people?? That's not gonna help me get anywhere

I'm sorry but I find most of what you said to be invalidating 
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Semira

Communication isn't my strong suit so I'll try to clarify some of what I wrote.

Quote from: EmilyRyan on July 19, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
Umm I can't just toss it out and forget sorry but ASD doesn't work like that and yes it does matter when it has significant impacts that affect being employed.
I'm not saying pretend ASD doesn't exist but rather to not use it as an excuse for not being able to do things. You are capable of doing anything anyone else is, it's just might be more challenging. A challenge you can overcome.

Quote from: EmilyRyan on July 19, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
Be faster and more competitive than other people?? That's not gonna help me get anywhere
I just meant that you don't have to worry about being the best employee, just be confident and you will be able to outshine other people.

I hope I didn't upset you as that wasn't my intention. I'll stop bugging you now. I wish you the best. Take care.  :)
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EmilyRyan

No hard feelings and I apologize for being out of line

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EmilyRyan

Found some useful information that can help with job interviews in the future for whenever I do get a diagnosis for ASD. Read a blog suggesting that I could simply provide a letter briefing explaining the diagnosis and such and then go on to explain that I'm fit for the job and have the skills needed and that despite having ASD I'm capable of doing the job. Overall I'll just try to prove that I have some intelligence.

What do ya think??   
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