CarrieLiz's GRS With Dr. Chettawut, 8/9/16

[Carrie Liz]

So, the UTI test was negative.

There was the faintest bit of nitrites that showed up on the test, but it took over 2 minutes to start changing colors, and therefore was not enough to generate a positive result, the box says "test after 1 minute" for nitrites.

My mind is eased a little bit, but I'm still stumped as to what in the world is causing all of this sudden post-flight swelling and pain. (And again, it's just weird because it took a day and a half after the flight to start hurting like this, and for dilation to become as difficult as it has become. It wasn't really until the night I tried putting in the #2 dilator and failed that the pain and bleeding started.)

Also, regrettably, no reply from Dr. Chettawut yet, so looks like I'm going to be waiting until Sunday night for an answer.

So, I'm stuck in the same situation as earlier today. Either do nothing and continue to just hope that eventually the swelling and pain will go away on their own, or go to the emergency room. (Which, the swelling and pain haven't gotten any better since this morning, but they haven't gotten any worse either, and there's still no signs of discoloration or fever or abnormal discharge, so I guess I'm just stuck waiting and hoping.)

[Tess2016]

Personally, I would not bother with the No2 until your situation becomes normalised. No point in trying to push something into a swollen hole. Take a nice warm bath with sea salt.. then try off your women bits with a hair dryer.. keep it dry.. do not force the situation by trying to leap before you have managed the smaller option. Seems to me the USA medical system is third world.. If I had issues, I can call a doctor for free 24/7 after hours.. If they find an issue, they will call an ambulance. I would be seen immediately on arrival at the hospital. Which is a very good one....

I really hope you are ok.. Relax, do not think about it. Take some pain killers and have a sleep.. ZZZZ

Tess...

[Miss Lux]

I did my SRS with Dr. Chet in 2005 and It was the start of my rebirth.... I am able to orgasm... Dr. Chet, his wife and their assistants were beyond nice and when I have any concerns when I got back to LA they may it be paper stuff or medical they get back to me real fast... In the past they require a bunch of stuff to legally change your name and gender. I love the results and I'll do it all over again with Dr. Chet. The only not so desirable thing is that the width of penis that my vagina can accomodate is limited to average to below average width which is not the doctor's fault... I guess it is due to my anatomy being a very petite asian girl. My advice is try to advance to the wider dilators when u can or when it is tolerable already. I've dated a handful of doctor's including  some OB/gynecologist and none commented or clocked my vagina... Genetic females vagina varies a lot too.... Anyway goodluck and enjoy

[Miss Lux]

And you will be more prone to UTIs no matter how hygeinic you r... I am a RN so I dont believe in those supplement stuff but I gave it a shot and never had UTIs again after taking cranberry pills everyday....

[Miss Lux]

Dilating can be really painful first few months take it easy..... Swelling can be from a lot of things... Pain can also be from your nerves rewiring.... Is it fresh blood -bright red like the Target logo or brownish?If it is bright red u r having active bleeding... And what's the amount? I had a bit of blood stains before so that I got so worried luckily I stayed in Thailand for almost a month- Dr. Chet's wife came right away then Dr. Chet but it was nothing.....but you should go to the ER if it persists or if it is more than just a stain whether they r experienced or not with SRS bleeding is bleeding and any doc will know how to deal with bleeding! Plus d  construction of d vagina isnt that complicated not to find where d bleeding is coming from...... If it is brownish it could be from d betadine, skin sloughing of from inside mixed with d lube.... Hope you r ok.... Expect to have UTIs in d future and ur regular doc dnt need to examine u for uti u dnt even need to disclose that u r trans for just uti...a uti is a uti... They'll just prescribe u with antibiotics but preventive is always better....

[TinaVane]

I did my SRS with Dr. Chet in 2005 and It was the start of my rebirth.... I am able to orgasm... Dr. Chet, his wife and their assistants were beyond nice and when I have any concerns when I got back to LA they may it be paper stuff or medical they get back to me real fast... In the past they require a bunch of stuff to legally change your name and gender. I love the results and I'll do it all over again with Dr. Chet. The only not so desirable thing is that the width of penis that my vagina can accomodate is limited to average to below average width which is not the doctor's fault... I guess it is due to my anatomy being a very petite asian girl. My advice is try to advance to the wider dilators when u can or when it is tolerable already. I've dated a handful of doctor's including  some OB/gynecologist and none commented or clocked my vagina... Genetic females vagina varies a lot too.... Anyway goodluck and enjoy

That's probably because they have below average <sized> penises ... Genetic women vaginas are average 4-5 inches but can be stretched (guess that's the correct term ) ... If <GRS results in> 5-6 inches well dear their vaginas not going any deeper


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[Miss Lux]

That's probably because they have below average penises ... Genetic women vaginas are average 4-5 inches but can be stretched (guess that's the correct term ) ... If sex changes get 5-6 inches well dear their vaginas not going any deeper


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Personally my problem is more on the width of the penis I can accomodate.

[TinaVane]

Personally my problem is more on the width of the penis I can accomodate.

Hhhhmmmm I thought it would at least be able to stretch with width ... But I never bothered looking at how the operation is done on utube ... I tried but I have a weak tummy ... Just cut me open I don't need the details  Lol 


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[Miss Lux]

Hhhhmmmm I thought it would at least be able to stretch with width ... But I never bothered looking at how the operation is done on utube ... I tried but I have a weak tummy ... Just cut me open I don't need the details  Lol 


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I am a nurse but I coulnt watch it... If I watched it I probably would not have pushed through with it.... Same here just do it I dnt wanna know d gory details...actually in d middle of d surgery I woke up and tried to sit up, I dint feel d pain and I dozed off again quickly .. C

[Jenna Marie]

Carrie Liz, if it helps, it's common wisdom that the swelling and tightness from it will set in 24-36 hours after the packing is removed in penile inversion; in other words, "delayed onset" swelling is perfectly normal. Since overdoing it with walking/exercise can also cause swelling, it may be that you came home from the flight, got carried away, and now are seeing a lot of renewed swelling. If that's the case, it *will* go away, but you might have to take it easy for a couple days. As long as your only symptoms are swelling, tenderness, and brownish discharge/slight bleeding, it is absolutely possible for there to be nothing wrong besides overtaxing your body and needing to recover.

Width can in fact be regained, so concentrate on maintaining depth for now.

(Oh, and cis vaginas can be stretched *to* 5 inches or so on average. In the "resting" state, the average is more like 3 inches. Since it's also impossible to get the whole penis in there - bodies get in the way - most average to largish guys will have no problem with 5-6" of depth. And if a guy's over 8", he already  knows that some cis women are going to have issues too. )

[Carrie Liz]

So, when I woke up this morning it felt like I'd made no improvements whatsoever. Exact same amount of swelling and exact same amount of pain as yesterday.

I've been feeling ever-so-slightly light-headed since yesterday, so I decided to take my own temperature to see if I had a fever, but that came back normal as well, so I guess it was just because I took a tramadol pill yesterday afternoon because I was tired of being in constant pain, and tramadol does tend to make me a bit light-headed. (I still have like 6 of them left, by the way. Dr. Chett gave me like 10 more of them as part of my final prescription package before I left Thailand.)

On the plus side, dilation was finally easier this morning. The level of pain on insertion was definitely a bit less than yesterday. So hooray! At least something is improving. (And swelling might have gone down a little bit since I woke up, but it's hard to tell.)

So I'm still kinda on the fence in regards to whether this is a concern or not, I feel like things have gotten a little bit better, maybe, but it's really hard to tell. But since I don't have a UTI, don't have a fever, and vaginal discharge has still been looking completely normal, ranging in color from translucent pink to clear to slightly-milky-white-clear, none of which are considered abnormal, (no yellow, no green, nothing chunky, nothing smells abnormal, nothing that is normally associated with infection,) I guess I can still just assume that this is just swelling from a day and a half of prolonged pressure/exertion during the flight and due to me definitely not taking it easy for the first two days I was back in Tampa? I guess?

I don't know. At least nothing is getting worse, I guess, so I still don't really have a concrete reason to go to an urgent care clinic because it doesn't really seem urgent.



In the meantime, I'm still just taking a little bit of extra care to make sure I'm keeping everything clean, aired out, and disinfected, plus making sure I rest to conserve as much energy as possible, so that I don't take any risks of aggravating it

[Miss Lux]

If Dr. Chet or his wife has not emailed you back try calling them if it will relieve your fears and anxiety, I did in the past; i called his wife Tair every time I had questions or concerns she's a nurse too. Buy a phonecard or something and call. If it is diluted pinkish in my opinion it is part of normal healing but go easy on your dilation but if is bright red it  is an active bleeding.

[mac1]

Carrie it might be best to seek either urgent care or emergency care.

[Carrie Liz]

Swelling's down a bit since yesterday, dilation was definitely easier this morning, and while there still is quite a bit of residual swelling and pain, at least it's progress.

I came downstairs and watched football with Mom and Steve last night, and before then I was really starting to feel better, but the swelling came back up a bit, so today once again I'm just staying in bed, and hopefully things will keep improving.

Also, fingers crossed, I should hopefully finally be getting a reply from Dr. Chettawut tonight in regards to how much pain is normal after a long international flight.



I just took the very last of my anti-bacterial and anti-swelling pills from Thailand yesterday, so now I'm kinda on my own in regards to medication. I'm probably going to switch over to ibuprofen now that the original meds are out. (You can't take ibuprofen at the same time as the anti-swelling pills Chett prescribes, since they have an interaction. But now I can.)

[Carrie Liz]

Hooray! Dilation's finally back to not being painful! #1 is finally going in with no resistance again, just like it was before we left America.

I'm going to give it at least one or two more days, but I'm finally going to be able to try the #2 again soon.

[AnonyMs]

Hi Carrie, I've read that you should be very careful with hygiene, because if you get a UTI early on its very very unpleasant and painful. Personally I'd go a bit over the top with hygiene to minimize any risk of a UTI.

[Carrie Liz]

Freaking damn it...

I woke up just now with a ton of discharge on my sanitary pads, decided that maybe I should do another pee-strip test just to make absolute sure, and unfortunately this time the test was positive.

If I didn't have an infection somewhere a couple of days ago, apparently I do now.

Just great...



(And by the way, I still haven't gotten an answer back from Dr. Chettawut's office after 5 days. I just got failed by the medical system in every way this time, and now I've probably set my own recovery back by weeks because of this.)

[Michelle_P]

Oh, heck.  Time to skedaddle into the office of a GP somewhere, flat out tell them you've got a bad UTI and suspect an infection at the site of a recent surgery, and go from there.  You're in Urgent Care territory now.

[Miss Lux]

Call your primary doc, go to an urgent care preferably ... You won't be seen in ER right away for UTI they triage patient's....  My first uti post op was really scary too went to the ER took forever so I left went to Primary next day antibiotic 5 days done....I know it can be scary because  of what if it's this or that and you aren't familiar with your new parts yet....  happened several times over  to me ... Cycle stopped few years ago after giving cranberry pills a chance to prevent but not  to cure... I never really believed in supplements before but I do know...

[Miss Lux]

what you are seeing is the lubes and betadine plus fluds from the swelling which goes down to your napkin when you get up via gravity... Remember it is a closed pouch inside and the only way out is thru the vagina.... And ur lube is water based.... D discharge u r referring to is brownish right? But if it is puss or red well that's somrthing else... But every after dilation even in the future you'll see a little bit of pseudo discharge from d lube or remaining fluids inside etc coming out via gravity... Hope it helps a little bit.....