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How and when did you realize you were transgender?

Started by ainawa88, August 15, 2016, 08:29:13 PM

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ainawa88

Around grade 1 or 2 (between ages 6 and eight) is when I first remember having any feelings of "unhappiness" about my assigned sex. I distinctly remember writing a journal entry for class at some point about how I wished I was born a girl. My teacher discouraged those kind of thoughts by commenting something along the lines of, "you make a good boy."

This didn't upset me. I didn't feel as if I was trapped in the wrong body, and I didn't have any intense dysphoria. At the time, I had no idea what transgender people were. I didn't know transgender people existed, etc.

I imagine it would have felt like wishing I was born with the ability to fly. It probably seemed like something that belonged in the realm of pure fantasy, and so I never dwelled on it for long.

In middle school, I started developing an intense fascination with androgyny. This is also around the time when I started becoming interested in girls, and I preferred girls who wore their hair very short, who were flat-chested, who didn't shave their body hair, etc. I became interested in gothic fashion, especially the "effeminate/pretty-boy" aesthetic. I also became interested in artist's like Marilyn Manson who played with androgyny. To sum it up, I really liked the idea of "masculine" women and "feminine" men.

Around this time, I started developing an intense aversion toward puberty. I did a lot of research into castration and becoming a eunuch, but realized eventually that I would not be able to safely perform the operation myself (something I strongly considered for a long time), nor would I be able to find a qualified professional who would do it considering my age. Again, it seemed silly to dwell on it past this realization, and it promptly got put to the back of my mind again.

In high school I started to get this idea that I was a "real" man because only "real men" would have the confidence to be themselves, especially when they didn't fit a stereotypical "masculine" identity. I started experimenting with makeup and mimicking styles more commonly associated with women (capri pants, 3/4 length sleeve tops, bright pink clothes). I was made fun of, but I absolutely reveled in this. I loved being different.

It's hard to say, especially now, but I think in high school I actually became okay with the idea that I was born male. I seemed to be happy with my identity as an effeminate guy. I didn't have any thoughts that I can remember about my gender in regards to questioning.

Fast forward to many years later ... At this point I'm 26 years old, I've had a daughter, and I'm no longer with her mother. This particular lady and I were kind of swingers, so I had a lot of experience seeking partners as the male half of a couple. I had tried using dating sites a little before, as a single male, but had literally zero success. In the wake of our break up, I decided to try making a singles profile on the same site we had the most success with.

This trivial activity was THE crucial moment for me. Now that I had to describe myself without the context of being in a relationship, I really felt the need to include something along the lines of, "If what you're looking for is 'a man', I can guarantee that you will not be happy being with me."

For days afterwards, this was all I could think about: What does that mean?

A lot of memories (the things I mentioned earlier in this post) came flooding back to me. I started to think that maybe the stereotypical narrative of feeling like you were born in the wrong body doesn't apply to all transgender people. Maybe just the fact that I wish I was born something other than what I was means I'm transgender.

I decided to embrace this fully, and came out immediately to everyone as a transgender woman, despite not even being sure or confident. I began seeking HRT, because I knew real-life experience would not help me determine anything without actually being on hormones too.

Fortunately, this ended up being a good call. I remained unsure up until I had been on hormones for a couple of weeks, at which point I knew ... This feels right.
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jujubes1986

ive always been effiminate.. but i never crossdressed as a kid... i played with dolls... at a young age i knew i like boys/men... i knew this cuz i had a crush on one of my friend's older cousin. in grade 10 i started plucking my eyebrows and started putting make up on... i started to wear tight tshirts and flared pants... i guess this was my starting point to crossdress... oh and i love my spice girls shoes... but i never wore dresses or anything tho... then i transferred to an LGBT classroom (triangle program) here in Toronto Canada and thats when i learned about transgender people and hrt... so once i became 18... i went to the doctors and got myself hormones... but they didnt give it to me till i was 19...





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mszoey

Omg as long as I can remember I dreamt about going to bed and waking up as a girl. What really sparked it was seeing of all things was ace Ventura which is also why I hid it so well for so many years that is when I learned  it was possible for a man to become a girl and things seemed right but also the ridicule that was obvious in the movie made me turn it into a deep dark secret for the nex 15 years when all of a sudden I found the Internet and was able to put a name to it but it also took me almost another 10 years before I realized it was a serious problem and that I may end up committing suicide if I don't transition and being a child of a parent that did that I couldn't put my kid through it so out I came.

As far as cross dressing goes I had a couple of instances where I was caught and shamed into believing it was wrong so I got really good at hiding it. I was a stealth cross dressing machine lol


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Midnightstar

When i was young i remember saying things like "Dad when am i going to grow a beard" or "Can i get a mohawk?"
I wanted stereotypical male toys but i was always told "No" to everything else because i was a girl, i conformed i didn't know or understand i couldn't put it together so i grew up as a tomboy and just lived my life up until around 19 then i started looking into things and slowly realizing who i actually was inside 20 is the age it really hit me that i was trans.
 
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Jacqueline

Last year. I guess I have had thoughts, urges and desires for at least 42 years before that. However, knowing, last year.
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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Deborah

I knew since I was 11 since that was what was in my mind.  I discovered the name for it and that I wasn't the only one at age 15 when I was looking in a Hustler magazine. :-(. Information was not plentiful in those days.
Love is not obedience, conformity, or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being....  - Dan Barker

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becky.rw

This will seem really weird to most of yall I'd bet.

I realized... two weeks after I turned off the Testosterone for the first time.  (btw; the result of the antiandrogen was so profound, it terrified me, took me three tries of the startup to keep going.)   Before then, my brain was a chaotic horror show playing 24/7...

When the show closed; I could see.  Every peaceful, calm, enjoyable experience in my childhood was feminine or feminine stereotype.   Every.  Single. One.    I bonded to every female role model I had, I learned everything they could show me, desperately hungry for each bit.
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Sno

I am the very beginning. It is all still very new, and raw.

My searching found answers that I wasn't expecting (that I was trans), and in doing so, everything in my past snapped into clear focus. I became awake, and realised what had been hidden in plain sight.

I also recently saw a photo myself, and realised, that it is highly visible on the outside too. That was a shock and a half.

I've learned enough over that last 14 weeks or so to be able to stop reeling (thank you everyone for putting up with me so far :) ), but have a very long way to go.

Sno.
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KathyLauren

I have wondered for most of my life, but managed somehow to convince myself that the answer had to be "no way".  You would think I would have caught on at some point that, if the answer really had been no, then I wouldn't have kept wondering!

What changed my mind and got me investigating whether the answer might really be "yes" was attending a lecture last year by an astrophysicist who happened to be transgender.  The lecture was brilliant, all about some new leading-edge research, and the audience was in a buzz about it afterwards.  What struck me was the total lack of comments about the presenter.  It was all about her ideas.  Her gender identity, while obvious to anyone who was paying attention, was a total non-issue for these people.

That, more than anything, got me thinking that maybe this was a viable path for me: that it was possible to be transgender and not be perceived as a freak.  (No guarantees, I know.)  Within a month, I had signed up here at Susan's.  Within about three months after that, I realized that the transgender label really did fit me quite well.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Amanda_Combs

I've realized that I'm trans* one step at a time, and years apart.  I remember that I was around 8 the first time, and I first heard(from another kid) that there is a definite physical difference between boys and girls.  I got angry and yelled at them, and insisted that boys and girls are just alike.  I didn't get why it was so important to think that I was exactly like the girls.
       When I was 18(had just started dating my wife then), I thought that I'm an adult now, but still don't feel like a man.  So I told her outright that I'm a girl with a guy's body.(Growing up in a very church filled environment in a southern state, I had no idea what trans* people were at that time.) But still I stated my gender identity and then just didn't know what else to do with it and kind of let it fade from my mind.
        But, as of about a year ago I have had a pretty clear Idea of what trans* is, and that taking hormones actually causes the physical changes that it does.  I went from wearing a little makeup sometimes(guyliner), to wearing full faces of it.  And everyday I stare at tons of women that have bodies and faces that I would do almost anything to have.  It's pretty funny to me that the one thing that made it all unbearable was just the knowledge that there is something I could do to improve my situation.
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Lilliana

I knew something was different when I was around eight.  I was never interested in playing or roughhousing and especially sports.  I never played with dolls, either male or female but I was always very technical and mechanically inclined.  I have always been effeminate with long hair and a high voice.  My father used to introduce me as his daughter. 

Well fast forward to the eighties and I used to live on and off as a woman as I had a super understanding (and into it) girlfriend.  I could always get away with the bleached hair and woman's boots with the claim that I was an artist.  Then my father saw me out as a woman.  Well, he was shocked, but as a full on woman VS hiding in plain site, there really was not much difference.  He said he did not want me to embarrass him so I toned it down.  Computer career took off and I thought of transitioning in the mid nineties and went through a lot of hell because of it.  Ended up living the straight life until I finally said, who am I kidding?

The funny part about my father is that no matter what I did, he always saw parts of himself in me (the male part?) and ended up kind of joking about my 'issue'.  My mom, of course, knew.  She just did not understand the difference between a fetish and full on dysphoria.

So, here we are. 

I am in the process of soon notifying work of some changes coming!
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ainawa88

Quote from: KathyLauren on August 16, 2016, 06:51:40 PM
I have wondered for most of my life, but managed somehow to convince myself that the answer had to be "no way".  You would think I would have caught on at some point that, if the answer really had been no, then I wouldn't have kept wondering!

YES! This for me too ...

Loving all these stories, everyone. Thank you for sharing! :)
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Michelle_P

I think I had the desire to be female at a very early age.  I remember being dressed as female by a couple of older girls who babysat me at age 6-7, and enjoying that, or at least being the center of attention.  I remember climbing into the back of Moms closet at an early age to try on shoes.  And, sadly, I remember some pretty unpleasant events that culminated in testosterone shots at age 15.

When I could think straight again, early in college, I thought I had been cured or grown out of my 'perversion'.  (Remember, this was the late 50s and 60s.)  I met my future wife, and we fell in love and married a couple years later.

In my late 20s 'the urge' returned, and I fantasized about cross-dressing.  In my early 30s, while at work as an engineer, we were interviewing folks for a new position.  One of the applicants was a woman, unfortunately obviously early in transition with beard problems by the end of our all-day interview process.  I remember vividly sitting in the interview session, feeling a little bad about her discomfort, and thinking "She's so brave to be doing this.  I wish I could be that brave."  Wait.  WHAT?

That's pretty much when I knew.  The transition process was obviously not that great, and I was married with small children, so I essentially gave up hope, tried to bury the impulse, and went about my life of passing as male.  I dressed in secret from time to time, going through the usual purge cycles, regret, withdrawal from dressing, and so on.  The drive and my suppression slowly corroded away my mental state until I broke down early this year.

I'm better now, even if those around me don't want to admit it.
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
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big kim

I'd never much liked sport & would often daydream about starting school as a girl. This was in the 60s & 70s Britain,I was 13 when I was given a bag of my Mum & sister's old clothes to take to the church jumble sale,  something made me take out the best ones for myself!I was often bullied & disliked fighting (I started to fight back shortly after when I picked up some tips from one of my few friend's brother who was a soldier & a library book ).
Outwardly I was a typical teenage brat, a real PITA who got drunk & got into fights(I quickly learned fighting & drinking don't mix if you want to win). I had a lot girlfriends & from 19 when I plucked up the courage, flings with men as well.
One November in 1978 shortly after my 21st birthday (by now I was a bad ass pool shooting, hard drinking, speed & weed using, girl (& boy) chasing, muscle car (327 Chevelle) driving, Triumph riding biker who listened to metal). It was the start of a very cold winter & I was working on my 63 Triumph T100ss, it was so cold I worked 1 hour on 15 minutes off & came into the house to warm up. I started reading the paper & there was a lurid story of how a burly sailor changed into a glamourous lady. It was like a bucket of cold water was thrown over me, I realised these feelings were here to stay.
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Steph Eigen

Michelle, I'm struck by your comment:
Quote from: Michelle_P on August 16, 2016, 10:40:52 PM
I remember vividly sitting in the interview session, feeling a little bad about her discomfort, and thinking "She's so brave to be doing this.  I wish I could be that brave."  Wait.  WHAT?

I feel this way every time  I read a story of mustering the courage to come out to family and friends facing the potential for rejection and hurt, forging ahead with HRT and surgeries. I am humbled by the honesty to self and bravery inherent in each story. 

I, like many others,  am stuck in that same place at similar age you describe prior to your decision to transition. What was it that gave you the courage and will to begin transition?  Was there a particular event or need that drove the process and gave you the courage to transition, particular to this time in your life, not present in the past? 

I'm hoping I can learn from your experience...  please forgive me if I am too inquisitive or personal.
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Phlox1

There were signs back in my childhood that something wasn't quite normal, although while in high school I tried to be very manly and wore western shirts, cowboy boots and chewed tobacco.  When I got into my 20's there were more indications and they got more numerous over the years.  I honestly thought I was just a little perverted when I wore certain women's clothes and certain thoughts and desires about being female.

It wasn't until around 4 or 5 years ago that I was reading a magazine article about a "man" very similar to me who was married with teenage children.  I was really sucked into and engrossed in the article and there were a couple of paragraphs that described me and my feelings so perfectly that I had a feeling come over me like a wave of water that took my breath away and left me stunned.  I made an appointment with a therapist and she concluded that I was trans.  Never before had I ever questioned my gender, and thought I just had these strange desires.

There still isn't a day that goes by that I don't wonder if I really am just a pervert, but the fact is, I began HRT over 4 months ago, and I sure feel good on E.  Unlike many people, it took me a long time to figure things out.  It is an apparent fact that has been difficult for me to accept, but until I can come up with a better explanation, I guess I really am.  I suppose I thought that being trans was something that might occur in other people, but the probability that I might be was so small that it was statistically unlikely.
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kittenpower

Quote from: KathyLauren on August 16, 2016, 06:51:40 PM
I have wondered for most of my life, but managed somehow to convince myself that the answer had to be "no way".  You would think I would have caught on at some point that, if the answer really had been no, then I wouldn't have kept wondering!
This is how I felt too, and I finally accepted it when I was 25, and I knew that I would eventually transition; which turned out to be in 2007 (just before my 44th birthday) when I went full time, but I was on HRT for a few years before then, and had an unsuccessful transition attempt in 1998 when I was 35.
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alex82

#17
Lots of moving stuff above.

I just did. I had a neighbour who was trans, and an innate sense that she was what I would have to do.

But what I don't get - I came from a really liberal family, where anything was ok 'as long as you're happy' - and I just didn't do anything about it. No shame, no disappointment. I'll be really brutal and hope nobody is offended - disgust. That is what I felt. Not for other people, they can do what they like. But for me.

Revulsion. At the thought of surgery (I hate even giving blood), at being pitied (shouted at in hostility I can more than deal with), etc. I don't like conflict - I hate it - but if it's brought to my door, or done in front of me to someone, I'll enter it, on any level - I'll take it harder and lower than it would've gone otherwise. And not even on a male 'prove yourself' level - that if anything would make me drop it. Just on a 'go away and never come back' level.

I can come up with a couple of excuses as to doing nothing about it - I went to a very posh day school, things like that - but nothing that explains my abject horror of what was really going on. And it was (still is) abject horror, although the silent screaming panic has lessened since I admitted to myself and a therapist, and subsequently family and friends.

I can see certain points in hindsight where I could've and should've done something. Most prominently at the age of 15. But I just wanted it to go away. Obviously at 15, nothing is going away, it's all starting. And you've already had three or four years of attraction and knowing exactly why and what you're attracted to.

Obviously that's not something that's discussed, so like a couple of others above, I thought, maybe fantasy is just fantasy. Maybe everyone has strange conflicted attraction to the Italian school star football player, where they have to be female in order for it to work. Who knows! Maybe everyone cries when they find out their friend has had him instead. Who knows!

I had an openly gay friend who used to wax lyrical about this guy. I never did, I just listened, because my fantasy was very far from that. And rammed home when my friend rang during the summer holidays to tell me she'd shagged him. That was a really painful phonecall, and one of the few during my entire teens that didn't last a good couple of hours. I couldn't wait to hang up.

I used to look at myself in the mirror for hours and say, well, as long as that doesn't change much I can cope, as long as that bit doesn't expand into male territory I can cope, providing nothing like going bald happens, I could probably cope. Ha - all about coping, nothing about living. I knew what I'd need in order to live well rather than 'have a good time, some of the time'.

The most devastating part of my teens was having to buy a razor for my face. I was completely horrified by that, thought it was the most disgusting experience, and like being psychologically slapped across the face every morning, before you've even left the house. Thank god I never did go bald, or have a brow (instinctively I knew the brow was the thing, and the feature that would damage me/take me into 'no way' territory. Oddly, it's the feature I find most appealing in men...

And on men, I went through a couple of hundred. Clearly they wanted a gay partner which I couldn't give them. The only ones I could enjoy and see again were ones who left certain body parts well alone. And of those, those who just did, rather than being guided away or outright told not to. Brutally, I could cut a couple of hundred down to about six, which kind of feels offensive to them, because there was nothing wrong with them.

On that rough number, friends who know it have expressed some disbelief about all this. Everyone else has said 'oh that makes sense, it all fits now' but those who know me primarily via that route have invariably said 'but you're a complete slut, I thought you loved it'. No, and I'd been born as I knew I should've been, you could easily knock a zero off the grand total, and that would be in the ballpark of what I'm actually comfortable with. And the sexual response mechanism - the warm up, the nipple orgasm, etc - is clearly not what most gay men are after, so on a fundamental level, it never worked.

I can think of about three people it worked with. One of whom I was so horrible to he emigrated to Australia. I still wish now that I could just apologize and explain, because he was lovely, and exactly what I would've picked if I'd been born female - tall, dark, handsome, brilliant in bed, so stupidly generous we used to argue about it. He had perfect long black eyelashes framing these lazy dark eyes. I really miss him. I would walk to Australia just for the chance to apologize and explain. I hope he's happy.

Another that I met in GAY Astoria, which was a big gay club in central London years ago. We had a sexual relationship that fizzled into a friendship. For reasons obvious enough to me. When I told him everything, he came to see me - he took four days off work to talk it all through. He said he'd never been anything but gay, and found women sexually off putting, but he'd make an exception. That was lovely, but neither of us would be happy with that.

And a workman, a few years younger than me, who had just got married and didn't really want to be. With the body of a workman who'd spent most of summer doing hard work outside. A really gentle guy who'd give a good time while having one, and then get to the better part - skinning up a joint and generally looking amazing while doing it wearing nothing. I wanted my flat at the time to be like his sanctuary, as much as it was mine. That worked for a while, and I do love a man with a Liverpool accent.

All connected by their fantastic tans, height, pretty but still very male faces - all good brows, great bodies - and a bit hairy, top notch sexual skill, quirky little habits, broad outlook, a level of kindness that is innate rather than to get what they want. Yes, I definitely have a type. There were a handful of others from that cohort, including a couple who guessed the T thing (who were ordered straight out of the door for their impertinence), but those are the three who I owe for a brilliant non gendered time.

On a more superficial level, I knew on every level. I'd go shopping for my mothers birthday or whatever - standing in Jimmy Choo, and in heaven/hell and having to get her size instead of mine. Congratulating friends on their pregnancies, going to their weddings. And the only thing making me feel better was 'I wouldn't have a baby with your husband if he was the last man alive/I wouldn't be seen dead wearing that'. Which are not nice things to think about good friends, but it was all I had. And if I didn't do anything, it'd be all I'd ever have.

I didn't have any problems around 'rough housing' or anything like that. The vast majority of my friends were girls, but I was as happy climbing a tree or breaking into a construction site as I was with a Barbie or sitting in a circle. I hated the way women were treated and stereotyped from the age I could observe such things, it was a really deep discomfort. I hate the way men are stereotyped too come to that, but that's not it as you've all experienced.

Apologies for the length of this post.
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cheryl reeves

I always have been different from the other boys,and it got worse at 13 when I developed as a girl,my problem is men don't do nothing for me,I'm attracted to women. I was lucky I found a woman who can put up with the dressing,but she won't tolerate me doing hrt or grs,im fine with that for I never had gential dysphoria for to me I have the perfect strap on.
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alice1234

i was about 8 or 9 and i tried on me mums things and it felt comfortable but i didn't have a name for it so i kept it to myself till about 12 i dreamed of being a woman then i confided in a friend and realized who i was after that years of internet research until i came out. in retrospect i wish i commited at 12.  cheers
Alice
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