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Are trans and cis vaginas similar or different?

Started by transnztal, September 08, 2016, 01:35:00 PM

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Aria94

I feel that 99% of trans vaginas all have one give away from cis vaginas: scarring. Those two lines on the outside of labia majora. It bugs me. The only trans vagina I ever seen that looked 100% like a natal vagina was Danielle Foxx's who is a porn star. She prides herself on having dr.suporn perform her srs and I have to say, he did a PHENOMENAL job on her.
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AnonyMs

I used to think Danielle Foxxx's result was amazing, but I've seen, in person, a relativly recent post-revision Suporn result and its a fair bit better. And it's not just the outside either.
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Jenna Marie

There's been some discussion of scarring in this thread; not everyone ends up with visible scars, and not every surgeon places the scars in the same places, but it definitely is a risk.
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Aria94

Quote from: AnonyMs on October 01, 2016, 06:09:44 PM
I used to think Danielle Foxxx's result was amazing, but I've seen, in person, a relativly recent post-revision Suporn result and its a fair bit better. And it's not just the outside either.

Suporn definitely needs to use Danielle's and the person who you are referring to as references on his website instead of the pictures he has up currently lol
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AnonyMs

Quote from: Aria94 on October 01, 2016, 08:37:33 PM
Suporn definitely needs to use Danielle's and the person who you are referring to as references on his website instead of the pictures he has up currently lol

Danielle's fairly out there and I imagine most people going for SRS have seen her results. I really appreciate that, even if I'm not the intended audience. Like most, the other one would never do it.
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Aria94

Quote from: AnonyMs on October 01, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
Danielle's fairly out there and I imagine most people going for SRS have seen her results. I really appreciate that, even if I'm not the intended audience. Like most, the other one would never do it.

I think I'll definitely allow my surgery to use my pics on his website. *praying that everything goes well*
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Virginia Hall

Are cis vaginas different?

Ok. I present only my own information and mileage may vary, but all vaginas will stretch. Cis women have a uterus which during high arousal will move out of the way, or so one sexologist said.

Again, in my own experience and with dilating as often as the surgeon required post-op, 39 years later I still have depth and what I found was the vagina is adaptable and will adjust itself. Depth can be recovered, though it has to be done incrementally.

Not sure about scars. I don't see any, but I'm a Biber alumna and I am only speaking to that.

Finally, most men aren't the ones from magazines no more than every man's build is like Arnold or a Fabio or whoever it is these days. And yes, I know, muscles and penis size are not a one-to-one correlation.

This post is one data point, but I felt I needed to add it to a somewhat "downer" view of things being put forward.

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Virginia Hall

Quote from: Rachel Richenda on September 19, 2016, 02:31:27 AM
I'm curious to hear from any lesbian MtF's in the light of the above. Do you notice any adverse comments from girlfriends / partners? My current partner is partly responsible for reassuring me that cis vaginas come in all shapes and sizes.

No adverse comments, save one, and it was more curiosity than anything. After that I went back to get a labiaplasty from Biber which had a number of additional benefits. Strangely, my ability to climax increased by an order of magnitude. I can't figure why that would be, but it happened.

Strap-ons have had a comeback and are, in my limited experience, over represented in films. Lesbian love includes human fingers, tongues, and even thighs, and not pieces of rubber or plastic. Keeps your nails clipped!

Other than the one comment from way back, I have never had anyone, and certainly not another dyke, make any negative comments. We were too busy having fun.
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Aria94

Quote from: transnztal on September 08, 2016, 01:35:00 PM
I'm getting SRS in less than two months I'm so freakin excited words can't describe! But I was wondering will it be similar enough to cis vaginas? I have obviously done plenty of research at this point and know they are very similar and may have a few differences but I want to know from the real source! Ladies who are post op can your sexual partners tell the difference? I want to know what people thought after having sex with a post op if you can tell the difference or not?

I'm having surgery in early November! Who did you decide to go with, if you don't mind me asking? Since we're having surgery around the same time, I think we should definitely become buddies so we have someone that's going through a similar thing at similar time ,you know? ❤️
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transnztal

Quote from: Aria94 on October 03, 2016, 09:54:35 AM
I'm having surgery in early November! Who did you decide to go with, if you don't mind me asking? Since we're having surgery around the same time, I think we should definitely become buddies so we have someone that's going through a similar thing at similar time ,you know? ❤️

I'll PM you the details so we don't go off topic in the forum :)
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transnztal

So I guess some scar some don't. I will probably buy some kind of scaring cream as soon as possible. I just don't get how a guy isn't going to say anything about two noticable scars? I like keeping myself bald too so I'm hoping hoping I don't have this problem I think it's my main concern! I'm not concerned about the appearance anymore because like we said vaginas always look different trans or cis as long as it looks pretty lol.
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warmbody28

they have procedures now to almost completely get rid of scars. so thats always a option too
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Jenna Marie

There are also cis women who have labiaplasty to reshape the labia they were born with, so I guess the other alternative is to tell a guy who comments on scars that "I didn't like the way it looked, to I had surgery to make it prettier." ;)

(I actually would not recommend lying to a sex partner, but this discussion is in the context of hoping he doesn't find out, so...)
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mac1

Quote from: pretty pauline on September 20, 2016, 08:45:39 AM
You were just unlucky, I had my GRS 30 years ago in 1985, the majority of men just don't bother looking at our girly bits because they are just too excited and eager to buried their manhood, mine doesn't have good stretching, but hubby is not complaining, he lkes it tight and I've got used to his size, so it's worked out for both of us, my scars have faded over the years, the only person that could tell the difference is a gynecologist on a very close detail examination and no guy is going to do that, most men just don't go there, that's a ''woman's business'' and women's health that men just don't want to know.

My wife and I have always preferred going to the doctor together (whether for her or me).  We have been to a couple clinics where their practice was do discourage that especially when the appointment was for her. She never had a gynecologist that permitted me in the examination room when she was being examined.  However, GPs and family doctors generally didn't have a problem with it.  She never went to a urologist so I don't know what their practice would be.

On the other hand, I have been to 3 different urologists over the years and she has always been allowed in the examination room even when they have examined my penis and bladder.  Why do doctors treat female bladder and vaginal examinations as being more secretive?

I currently have a female urologist who is totally open about having my wife in the examination and procedural room.  She was even in the room when I had a prostate biopsy, which fortunately was negative.

I addition, male doctors always need to have a female nurse in the room when examining a woman but female doctors do not require a nurse when examining a man.  I even once had two female nurses perform bladder examination procedures through my penis without anybody else present in the examination room.

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R R H

Presumably you can also grow hair around the scarring area if you want? I like to be totally waxed but that's presumably an option.

Well I suppose I'd best take the plunge and look up this porn star. Blush. :-\ I never watch ts porn since transitioning.
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Jenna Marie

Hair growth also depends on placement of the scars. For scars on the inner labia or in the leg/groin crease, hair likely doesn't (and shouldn't) grow there... so that's another factor to consider when judging a surgeon's suitability.

Personally, I don't have the patience to shave or wax, so it's true that I would have had the "protection" of hair. :)
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IznaTozBeBorn

Quote from: warlockmaker on September 12, 2016, 06:30:32 AM
Men cannot tell the difference and cis females dont examine their vaginas as closely as we post ops. ..we are tighter than a cis female and especially those that have given birth.

A good surgeon aesthetics makes a huge difference. Mine looks 100pct like the real thing, I used mirrors to check it out lol.

I actually made sure my partner knew, didnt want to take a risk of him getting agressive if he found out. He didn't care and did say it was tight and felt fantastic and he could not tell the difference even with oral.




which surgeon and where u had it done ? when u had it? is it working fine ?
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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: IznaTozBeBorn on January 29, 2018, 02:59:03 PM



which surgeon and where u had it done ? when u had it? is it working fine ?

In case she doesn't see this in time.. warlockmaker had SRS with PAI.


FFS: Dr Noorman van der Dussen, August 2018 (Belgium)
SRS: Dr Suporn, January 2019 (Thailand)
VFS: Dr Thomas, May 2019 (USA)
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2.B.Dana

#58
If you have never looked it over, search online for the the Great Wall of Vagina. An interesting artistic obsession but will definitely give you an education in variety
Cheers,

Dana

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IsabellaSwan

Are trans vaginas similar or different? The answer is.. yes.

Truth is, it varies. I loved my vagina. I was deep, self lubricating, and my scars were invisible. Most of these are still true, but I have lost a lot of depth during a depressive period, although I was 4+ years post op. I can also orgasm vaginally and clitorally. No man has ever noticed, they only ever get obsessed with the tightness and the wetness.
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