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Can I hide a MtF transition while being 16?

Started by jpsteev, September 17, 2016, 08:46:02 PM

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jpsteev

Yeah I can't come out because my parents are transphobic. I want to transition right now or at least get on blockers until I am 20 or something. Could I hide my transition well?

My sisters are 34b and I am 185 cm tall I think that's 6 feet. I am also very skinny.
I don't see my face to masculine and I don't grow much facial hair at much only the chin and moustache. I shave like each 4 days the moustache and the chin like once a week. My shoulders aren't that big they are in between 16 and 17 inches.

Please give tips and be honest.

Thanks!
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Xirafel

Depends, if the country thinks you're a minor then they might not allow it without parental permission.
They would probably notice the breasts.
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Dena

I am not sure where you live but mostly you will have reach the age where you are considered an adult and have your own access to medical care if your parents don't agree. Blockers and hormones can be dangerous if taken without medical supervision so they require a prescription. Possible your school system might have a therapist available that could help but other than that, your options are limited.
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jpsteev

Quote from: Xirafel on September 17, 2016, 10:37:06 PM
Depends, if the country thinks you're a minor then they might not allow it without parental permission.
They would probably notice the breasts.
I am a minor in my country but I don't know the rules for transitioning here. But would I develop enough breasts to the point where they find out? I could bind but I couldn't swim or do dtuff thst requires taking of your shirt.

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Just Me Here

do not try and bind with developing breasts if you do not want to risk damage to them. Blockers can be dangerous over a long period of time, and 4 years might be cutting it a bit fine, but is certainly workable.
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jpsteev

Quote from: Just Me Here on September 17, 2016, 10:48:15 PM
do not try and bind with developing breasts if you do not want to risk damage to them. Blockers can be dangerous over a long period of time, and 4 years might be cutting it a bit fine, but is certainly workable.
Suppose I reach 20 just fine with blockers will the results be the same if I transition now compare to transitioning at 20 with 4 years of blockers?
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Dena

If you were to receive estrogen, you would might have less height than the blockers alone. The blockers will delay puberty and would buy you more time to get your life in order.
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jpsteev

Quote from: Dena on September 17, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
If you were to receive estrogen, you would might have less height than the blockers alone. The blockers will delay puberty and would buy you more time to get your life in order.
As a blocker I would get spiro but the results would be the same compared to now snd if I start at 20. I really really wish I could start now but my parents would hate me they would say that I ashame the family.

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Brianna Deanna

You should find someone to talk to even if not a gender therapist, being able to talk to someone really helps wheather its a councelor at school or a professional therapist talking and working thru your feelings is the best place to start
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Just Me Here

Quote from: jpsteev on September 17, 2016, 10:58:19 PM
Suppose I reach 20 just fine with blockers will the results be the same if I transition now compare to transitioning at 20 with 4 years of blockers?
I'm not certain about this, but I don't see why 4 years with blockers vs immediate would make much of a difference. Things would not be exactly the same but there wouldn't be much change. You've probably already finished your growth spurt which means that all that you're waiting for now is beard growth and a small amount of further darkening body hair, blockers will almost certainly stop this and might give you a small amount of gynecomastia. They might also stop any further masculinizing features developing on your face, if you are predisposed to developing them at all.
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jpsteev

Quote from: Just Me Here on September 18, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
I'm not certain about this, but I don't see why 4 years with blockers vs immediate would make much of a difference. Things would not be exactly the same but there wouldn't be much change. You've probably already finished your growth spurt which means that all that you're waiting for now is beard growth and a small amount of further darkening body hair, blockers will almost certainly stop this and might give you a small amount of gynecomastia. They might also stop any further masculinizing features developing on your face, if you are predisposed to developing them at all.
Is spiro a blocker?

NO DOSAGES

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Just Me Here

Spiro is indeed a blocker. It is used most commonly in America, more out of tradition than being the most effective product on the market. It will block T, but it is also a diuretic, so you will have to drink a lot and pee a lot.
Dutasteride and Finasteride will block DHT, which is a more potent form of T, but will do nothing to stop standard T from affecting you (DHT is important in terminal hair differentiation - darkening, growing, etc. - so blocking it would have effects).
Whereas, flutamide, cyproterone acetate and bicalutamide will block both DHT and T (of these bicalutamide has the least side effects - I think by now everyone thinks I'm some sort of bicalutamide shill) however, I don't live in the US so I don't know which of these are approved by the FDA. Also, most of these blockers are not widely known as they are use more for Testosterone dependent prostate cancer.
It might be worth checking whether state laws mean you are able to seek out a gender therapist without them contacting your family for permission. Just because you see one doesn't mean you have to go on E, you can simply ask for blockers in the meanwhile.

TL;DR yes spiro is a blocker
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jpsteev

Quote from: Just Me Here on September 18, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
Spiro is indeed a blocker. It is used most commonly in America, more out of tradition than being the most effective product on the market. It will block T, but it is also a diuretic, so you will have to drink a lot and pee a lot.
Dutasteride and Finasteride will block DHT, which is a more potent form of T, but will do nothing to stop standard T from affecting you (DHT is important in terminal hair differentiation - darkening, growing, etc. - so blocking it would have effects).
Whereas, flutamide, cyproterone acetate and bicalutamide will block both DHT and T (of these bicalutamide has the least side effects - I think by now everyone thinks I'm some sort of bicalutamide shill) however, I don't live in the US so I don't know which of these are approved by the FDA. Also, most of these blockers are not widely known as they are use more for Testosterone dependent prostate cancer.
It might be worth checking whether state laws mean you are able to seek out a gender therapist without them contacting your family for permission. Just because you see one doesn't mean you have to go on E, you can simply ask for blockers in the meanwhile.

TL;DR yes spiro is a blocker
Is Spiro by its own enough?
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Cindy

Any blockers during puberty have profound health risks that can result in permanent health issues and require medical supervision. Do not use blockers without medical supervision.

Spiro is not used as a blocker during puberty the blockers used are GnHr analogues as they are less dangerous.

The risk of health issues is very high.
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Cindy

I am unhappy with unqualified medical advice being given in this thread, if it continues I shall be taking action against those posters.

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jpsteev

Quote from: Cindy on September 18, 2016, 06:03:02 PM
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Cindy

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jpsteev

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Janes Groove

I agree that talking to a school counselor, maybe a friendly teacher or friend you can trust will help you feel not so alone.

Also as you can see you can get support here too.

If things ever get really bad there is this site too. It has an 800 number.

http://www.translifeline.org/
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Cindy

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My concerns for your health are real. Unsupervised use of blockers can result in permanent bone damage, kidney failure and liver damage.
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