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Started by Drexy/Drex, September 26, 2016, 09:24:08 PM

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Drexy/Drex

Hi Liz  thanks lol yes it amazing how quick word travels in these places
Mmmm  i dont mind some positive attention but i think its ' every holes a goal'
more likely 🤣🤪
still it is as you say i don't mind a bit of attention from the guys.... inexplicable but i think it
i feel it validates my femaleness i guess.
i, m looking at getting a ffs revision done and i need another face lift its really important to wait after ffs before having the facelift... i waited about 5mths?.... to early at least a year the longer the better
vfs and the top surgery
and i think that will be it for the time being
are you going to upload a comparison of your vfs i, m just dieing to hear 😊
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LizK

Hi Drexy

Yes I am but I am waiting for my voice to settle a bit more.  I have noticed over the last 4-5 days that I can now speak first thing in the morning and when I try and talk after being silent for awhile I am not just "blowing air" So going by this progress it should be in the next week  Speaking today my voice sounded pretty reasonable (to me) compared to the previous days so hopefully it has found its middle...time will tell. But fingers crossed this week...I just need to find somewhere to upload it.

take care
Liz


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Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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LizK

Just uploaded a sample of my new voice to my VFS. thread on the  voice surgery  board...Enjoy just remember it's only 35 days


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JudiBlueEyes

Best of luck in the new camp Drexi. 
But now old friends they're acting strange
They shake their heads, they say I've changed
Well something's lost, but something's gained
In living every day.
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Drexy/Drex

thanks judie
going to check it out Liz
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Drexy/Drex



I was tagged in FB with this by one of my work mates.....🤣🤣🤣
He's switched on
This new camp is huge and the conditions are great
Hmmm getting consistently scoped by various men and one day after work at the wetmess I was standing in line and the guy in front of me turns around as I got my drinks and asks me if I'd like to put mine in his ice bucket....I automatically said no thanks as I was going to join my colleagues at their table...

It didn't occur to me until later ....what a slick/sly move he had made
because if I had that would have meant  I would have joined him at his table......
I'm getting good at spotting the bi guys because they recognize me if you know what I mean.
The other night I had a phone call out of the blue from my last gf ....we haven't seen each other for a couple of years at least...
Anyway her first words were "what's going on ??!!"
I said what do you mean ?
" I've had 5 ph calls from different people including my brother saying you look like a woman !!!"
So I had  some explaining to do...and then she asked me if I got around camp in female clothes....( not likely...too many sex starved men up here )
And asked me if I was going to have the op ? I said why ? and she laughed and said " so you can see how many Doodles you can get in there " 🤣🤣🤣
Hmmm I don't know if I like men that much lol.
told my doc what she had said and he cracked up.
I sent my ex 3 photos one without makeup ,one with makeup and one of me at work
and the reply I got back was " *@#&×¢ hell you do look like a woman"
oh I forget one of my new buddys that I have a few drinks with told me one night that people had asked him ..if it was a man or a woman he was drinking with...I guess that's a good thing ...but kinda sad too
maybe I'm the elephant in my own room as I still see a man in the mirror...and most mirrors make me feel yuck ....and I'm not even going to go into photos....blah..
Anyway the rumor Mill is redlining and the bush telegraph has gone into overdrive
Soon it will be common knowledge 😅
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Drexy/Drex

<img src="https://vgy.me/DABO2J.mp4" alt="DABO2J.mp4">

the wet mess
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Laurie

  Hi Drexy! I enjoyed your last update and that exchange with you last girlfriend was priceless. Did you ask if she was interested in the new you? lol. Careful around all those big strong men. You aren't the man you used to be remember. Not anything like him and he was just a impersonation you got used to wearing. Glad you are doing well. Just thought I would say hey while I was here.

hugs,
  Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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Drexy/Drex

Hi Laurie, hey you look great ....high cheek bones and v jaw ....with no surgery.....😊
yes true I'm different now .... people i haven't seen for a couple of years remark on the change in my body but generally don't mention my face,
Mmmm men lol.....
Some of my old mates have been a bit standoffish.....I guess that's fair enough as it could be a bit surreal for them but after a few drinks most have come around...
Good thing about being construction workers ....if we encounter a problem ...we just build  abridge and get over it .


Two pac blue with Pearl and magnetic metal flake 😁
mmm don't know about the ex.... she's an ex Australian roustabout (cow girl) very forthwith 😉
I've noticed the guys get Abit touchy feely after a few drinks  and at last night's librations a guy who was leaving the table came up to me firmly placed his had on my back and told me there were some coldies left if I wanted them....very friendly warm contact...I get some really warm smiles from some men ....those are the ones I like
Whereupon others just notice me when their hardup .....
At prestart yesterday while we were all crammed into the lunch hut ...the supervisor was asked what was happening with the 1200  excavator .... whereupon he answered
It's getting a service and it's nails and eye lashes done .... I'd just had my nails and brows done...one of the girls looked back at me ...to see my reaction ....I just kept my poker face....I wondered if he was trying for humour , or taking a shot at me or just a massive faux pas...
So later in the day he asked me over the 2 way where my paperwork was from the day before (I forgotten to hand it in) So I replied yeah nah...spilled nail polish over them ..have to rewrite em.
Dead silence.... mainly because he was lost for words and everyone else were pissing themselves with laughter..... anyway it defused any tension
And this morning  he said how's that nail polish coming along with a brig grin
and I replied ....good mate 2pac blue with metal flake.
..
That's the great thing about most Aussies...big hearts great sense of humour
And I guess it helps if you are comfortable with yourself too.
That what Janae Croc reckons and I've found it to be true
She's very inspiring.   
https://www.janaekroc.com
And has a film out "Transformer" which Chronicles her transition from one of the world's strongest men to female ....
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Laurie

Nice to catch up with you Drexy. Oh my gosh, thanks for the compliment. Like you I don't see what others appear to see in the mirror. I am aware of one thing though I do look more female when I smile. Need to get that crooked toothe fixed though. It is fun to hear how you relate the goings on and shenanigans you encounter with your work mate and it still amazes me how well you seem to get along in that rough and tumble work environment.  You go girl!!

Hugs,
  Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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LizK

Quote from: Drexy/Drex on March 31, 2019, 06:31:36 PM

So later in the day he asked me over the 2 way where my paperwork was from the day before (I forgotten to hand it in) So I replied yeah nah...spilled nail polish over them ..have to rewrite em.
Dead silence.... mainly because he was lost for words and everyone else were pissing themselves with laughter..... anyway it defused any tension
And this morning  he said how's that nail polish coming along with a brig grin
and I replied ....good mate 2pac blue with metal flake.
..
That's the great thing about most Aussies...big hearts great sense of humour
And I guess it helps if you are comfortable with yourself too.
....

Great to hear from you and thanks for the update. Nice to see you sounding so upbeat and I love the nail polish. Nothing like a bit of Aussie humour to break the ice and put everyone at ease. Sounds like you are turning a few heads in camp which I am guessing is a good thing?? You sound positive about it so I will assume its good.

Would love to see some updated photos as the last one I saw was from Mexico I think? I am sure you will have changed again since then.

The new camp looks huge but I guess that goods for getting lost in the crowd but I can tell from what you have said that is unlikely especially with fabulous nail polish like you have.

You will be pleased to hear the voice is settling down and I can communicate fairly well these days and I am still pitching well into the female range. My Daughter told me the other night it was great that I sounded like I always had with just my pitch having gone up. I did try and tell them this is how it would be but I guess they had to hear it for themselves. How about you have you looked into it any more?

Great to hear form you

Take care

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Drexy/Drex

Hi there Liz I'll make this brief as the witching hr is upon me ...4am start....😉
I'm pleased to hear your voice is progressing so well....the more I think about it the more that voice pitch is salient !!! I look forward to your progress 😊
Yes any attention is good when your my age ....it's not bad more positive than negative
I have to bit the sack now .....but this is what I look like just having got back from work via the wetmess.....

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zirconia

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Drexy/Drex

Thank you 😘
Mmm it's not very girly looking ...but in these conditions it's to host and dusty to wear a wig... I'm hoping to have a ffs revision in the future..still it's further to female than it was before
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LizK

Oh wow I just looked at one of the earlier photos you sent me and you have really changed...I can certainly see Drexy...no wonder you keep attracting guys.

Thanks for the photo.

Liz


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Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Drexy/Drex

Thank you Liz ...hmmm with the guys it's kinda a captive audience...I see more men here every day here than I would in the real world and because of the different rosters there are always new faces etc,
In response about the vfs ....yes I certainly am ... but before I do I want to make sure I look female enough I don't want people thinking that I'm some sort of effeminate man
I don't mind if they know that I'm trans as long as that's what they realize and not the former it's a non binary thing I guess.... I'd love to wear feminine clothing ...but my size makes it difficult.
But thank you  for noticing 😊

Laurie ...yes the smile is important along with the teeth.
How do I manage to get along ....well a lot of people have been exposed to transgender
in Thailand ....and then we have our rules and regs against harassment ,
But apart from that it helps to have a sense of humour,and I don't take myself to seriously.....
I'm expecting that as people get more comfortable with me there will be inquiries
And lastly ....I have to , I don't have enough time in front of me anymore....no time to Dilly dally ....just to do .....as barbies sign reads "just do it"

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Drexy/Drex

As an aside
Last night one of my old buddy's turned on site ,working for another company.
Anyway he messaged me and we decided  to meet up in wetmess
So I'm sitting there talking to a couple of my crew and k walks right past ...
So I yell out to him and he comes over ....very first thing he does is point to my nails and says .... you've got me wondering if you've changed gender! both of my crew  had an odd reaction ....like shock, fear , and momentarily disoriented.....as if K had done the unthinkable....I found it rather amusing.... considering with all the gossip going around,
Anyway I thought it was quite diplomatic of him as k has a habit of calling a spade a spade  and it was much more gentle than my ex,s comments ....such as "Are you turning into some sort of Pooftahh...!!!)
k and I went and had a few drinks he didn't mention anything more about gender etc
and when we split he stood up gave me a firm handshake ...not bad for not seeing me for 6 years....
Mind you these days I don't flinch so easy ....I was actually amused by his first words and the reaction my colleagues had.....🤣🤣🤣
Most of the time I don't have problems but I have had some seriously resentful looks
Where I've just stared at that person till they've desisted....
I don't know what has happened to me but I am definitely less fearful than I was
Perhaps having nothing to hide and nothing to prove .....grants one a lot of freedom ....

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LizK

Quote from: Drexy/Drex on April 12, 2019, 01:30:59 AM
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I don't know what has happened to me but I am definitely less fearful than I was
Perhaps having nothing to hide and nothing to prove .....grants one a lot of freedom ....

I think you nailed it @Drexy/Drex . I think that is a great insight especially in light of your get together withy K. Glad it turned out to be so positive.

Take care

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Drexy/Drex

I had an interesting experience last night in camp, recently the camp shop has changed to self serve to alleviate the 30 deep queues of workers getting whatever ,
Anyway it was my turn at the machine ....and I messed it up so I was trying to get it working and I heard a voice to the  side of me say ...I think it's crashed...without looking I automatically replied ...no worries thx mate , the to my surprise as I moved away ...I glanced back ...and lo and behold the speaker was a fully transitioned woman ....the point I'm trying to make is that I had answered her as if I had heard a male speak ...and yet she was very feminine...about my height tastefully attired ... I'd never seen her before....and if it was not for a few things only a transitioning male who is attracted to woman can notice , I would never had noticed ....so voice absolutely Paramount from my point of view ..now ..hmm was a little envious but happy for her all the same ....she has had some good work done facially .......which made me wonder if just ffs is all it's cut out to be ...yes sure ....for those who are blessed with feminine features already ...but maybe if one wants to look like a natal woman.... perhaps it's better to walk into a cosmetic surgeons office and say make me look like a woman .....just a thought
Oh so I hope i meet that lady again...I wonder if she knew what I am....
Hmmm fat finger mistake in sending msm message to a friend gushing about how lovely one of the girls on the forums was...and how I wish I was like her.....and duh!! O sent it to the wrong person 😲🙄🤣🤣🤣
Omg I was so embarrassed....it went to the chick in the load unit loading my truck....but she was cool about it ...said don't worry it would be deleted and no one would ever know ...went motorcycle touring with her and another work mate last r&r.....only just getting to know her ....and that has only transpired since I started transition....seems imake friends a lot more these days
Still I'm embarrassed as all all hell....
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LizK

Hi Drexy

Yes there are many things that can "out us" and voice is a big one...for someone like me voice was about tipping the balance...If you are pretty with a deeper voice you may still not get "outed" especially if you have everything else going right for you.

But if you are like me then the voice actually helps people gender me correctly.  I get the occasional "mate" but that's just Aussie blokes. Although it's not something they say to me twice LOL

Oh dear opps with the text but it sounds like it worked out okay...

How are you? what else is happening in the world of Drexy...heading anywhere else exotic in the near future? Any more adventures coming up....and the bike touring, tell me more....I am jealous...I miss my bike!

Thanks for updating us

Take care

Liz


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HRT since 17 May 2016,
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GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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