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Suggestions and criticism - 24 MtF/3.5 months HRT (Spiro + Estradiol valerate)

Started by violet.mayfair, November 03, 2016, 02:25:19 PM

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violet.mayfair

Do I pass? I know my brow ridge needs work and my brows are not done and my facial hair is not completely invisible. Constructive suggestions and criticism are welcome. But is there anything else that I should work on? Thanks everyone.
(Sorry for the picture quality).

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sid104

I cant feel my face when am with you ::)
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jentay1367

If that photo is an accurate portrayal, whatever minor issues you may have will disappear whilst you transition. You look very, very, feminine in that photo. :angel:  patience...patience...patience.....oh yeah, and electrolysis :(
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LizK

Quote from: violet.mayfair on November 03, 2016, 02:25:19 PM
Do I pass? I know my brow ridge needs work and my brows are not done and my facial hair is not completely invisible. Constructive suggestions and criticism are welcome. But is there anything else that I should work on? Thanks everyone.
(Sorry for the picture quality).



If I were to use no imagination when looking at your photo I would say you have some definite feminine traits

Part of the problem is that it is such a terrible photo(quality wise) and I actually think you look better than the photo gives you credit. Take the filters off and take another photo. 

What do you mean by pass? Going out to the movies at night passing or heading for a night out on the town hoping to meet the man or woman of your dreams passing? Whether or not you pass is subjective and will depend on many different factors. Confidence, voice ,mannerisms, poise all play a part...how you look is important but maybe not the final piece in the puzzle, more like the just the first piece.

Hugs
Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Maybebaby56

Hi Violet,

As someone who just went through extensive FFS, I can tell you that you have a lot of things going for you.  Actually, it appears to me that your brow line appears to be at the level of your orbital rims, which is very good. So, no, you don't need a brow lift. Your chin is narrow and feminine.  Your cheeks are likewise full and feminine.  Most noticeable are your large, very feminine eyes. You are also lucky to have a short upper lip, which is again a feminine trait. I assume you are wearing wig, so don't know where your natural hairline is, but overall I'd say you are very lucky to have such feminine features. Other than electrolysis, you don't need much!

With kindness,

Terri
"How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives" - Annie Dillard
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jentay1367

Sometimes.....these threads freak me out. You know, the ones where people ask, "will I pass?" Often, the poster is quite beautiful asking what they need. A lot of this is paranoid nonsense. Real women come in every iteration. Witness this woman, here.

A strong, proud, defiant, disgusted, resolved......."Woman".



No one would ever doubt or even .......question the fact. Your womanhood is between your ears. You can look like Barbie and still not pass if you don't own it. Good luck you you guys. Own it!
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Michelle_P

Quote from: jentay1367 on November 03, 2016, 05:29:55 PM
Sometimes.....these threads freak me out. You know, the ones where people ask, "will I pass?" Often, the poster is quite beautiful asking what they need. A lot of this is paranoid nonsense. Real women come in every iteration. Witness this woman, here.

A strong, proud, defiant, disgusted, resolved......."Woman".



No one would ever doubt or even .......question the fact. Your womanhood is between your ears. You can look like Barbie and still not pass if you don't own it. Good luck you you guys. Own it!

Jentay, I do believe you've got it right.

That to me is a beautiful, determined woman.

And yet, if we looked at this from the context of one of the "Do I pass?"  threads, I know exactly what I'd see here:
QuoteThe brow ridges are too prominent, and the chin needs to be narrower.  The eyes are too deeply set, indicating a Type III forehead revision is in order.  Rhinoplasty could improve things significantly, although the upper lip looks narrow enough.  I can't tell if the Adam's Apple needs shaving due to the poor quality of the image...

We know the drill...

Passing is more a matter of attitude and confidence than looks.  When I feel shaky, a little insecure, I find that I don't pass.  When I'm feeling really up, confident, and strong, I pass (until I have to show that damn ID... gatekeepers...  Grrrr).   Same makeup, wardrobe, and hair.  The only variable is my internal state.

I've been pretty shaky the past two weeks, for reasons I've covered elsewhere.  I've been obviously clocked multiple times an hour while out, probably my worst performance ever.  Once I get my head back together I think this will improve.  (If I don't, maybe RuPaul can pick me up for comic relief.  ::) )
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
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jentay1367

Hi Michelle, In a perfect world I want to be beyond
Quoteprobably my worst performance ever.

Easier said than done, but it's where I want to be. Never thinking about my former life and taking it all for granted. Even at the supermarket wearing zero makeup, ill fitting yoga pants, flip flops, no bra and a tank ;D We live in hope!
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