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Started by Bacon, November 19, 2016, 07:26:23 PM

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Bacon

So I've been on T for almost 5 months now, the first couple months were great and I was happy and comfortable with myself and excited for my transition, but lately I've been slipping back into the depression and over-analytical nature that I had before starting it.

I've been feeling once again like I'll never be satisfied with my transition. I feel like I'll never view myself as a real man and that I'll always be inadequate. That there's nothing I can do to escape the fact that I was born female and that this fact will always be in the back of my mind and will not allow me to truly feel or live my life as a man. I sometimes can imagine myself looking totally masculine and letting my male self shine, but I fear that my female self will "check" that self and make sure she limits his happiness.

I feel disgusted by transmen in general, including myself. When I look at pictures of top surgery results, for example, I think they almost always look bad. I'll sometimes watch videos of trans guys that have been on T for 5 years and they look good to most people, but I'll notice how they still have feminine hips or other things that "give them away", and I'll be critical of them. I feel like they, and I, don't have the right to say we're men.

I keep thinking that no matter what, instead of feeling like a real man, I'll feel like a woman that took hormones, got my boobs cut off, etc. Less than a woman and less than a man, and therefore stuck in a horrible "in between" existence.

I don't want to feel this way. It's making me feel so depressed all over again. It's even making me go back to the thoughts of "maybe I should try to live as a woman and be happy in the body I was given". My female body is extremely nice (for a female) and I'm scared that I'll ruin it for no reason, that no matter what I do, I'll never be happy with my results and that I'll always view myself as lesser for being trans.

At the same time, it probably goes without saying that I tried for so many years to be happy as a woman and I couldn't do that either. When I think about truly going back to living as a female, I know I can't, but I also feel like I can't fully live as a man. I feel so stuck.

I guess this is probably internalized transphobia (and possibly internalized misogyny?) or something but I don't know how to shake it. Anyone else deal with this?
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Elis

I've had the same thoughts; although not nearly as bad now. I'm starting to slowly come to like my body and I'm starting to become able to not think about the things I don't like and can't change. Which I think is due to me now being a year on T. I think the changes from HRT also make it easier to focus on the parts of my body I do like and ignore the parts I don't. Also realising cis men also can have feminine looking bodies. In 7 months you're very likely to have a much different outlook. The changes from the hormones both physically and mentally do take time to get used too. Ignore the clichés from social media that when you're on HRT you're instantly going to feel good about yourself.

And I've also thought maybe I should go back to living as a woman but I know that would be hell. I miss how more slender my body used to be but I have to compromise unfortunately. I'm sure many transguys don't like all the changes from T; same with cis men. And yeah I don't think I'll ever think of myself as not trans but it is an intergral part of my history. I've heard that it can take a few years of medical transitioning for that seperation so I'll guess I'll wait and see.

Once on T I thought my depression and social anxiety would be cured but I realised these were seperate issues from me being trans. I've found therapy to be of more help than the T. Something to consider.

And I still find it hard being seen socially as male and interacting with men. And not thinking of trans men as people who were at one time 'female'; myself included. But it take years to to change your mindset from one you've developed growing up. I've improved from how I was 3 years ago and I'm sure you have too. Just gotta continue :)
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WolfNightV4X1

Most of my "internalized transphobia" comes from anti-LGBT religious sentiment. I've heard it all, even the hardest of accusations. You're not a man just a woman dressed in clothes and cutting things off, as you've stated. You're not a man you have a mental disorder and you can only be foxed by listening to a REAL, GOOD therapist. You're only trans because you've been abused in life which caused this mental break, i.e Chaz Bono being molested as a child. John Hopkin's University....all that kind of thing.

It makes me wonder why I went this far...but I did. Why couldnt I just be happy or keep going as before?

Its hard knowing you're a walking dead man, that you're potentially going to hell just for existing. It's not a fun path to take in life, and my only hope is those are exaggerations of people's prejudices, and that I can continue on living and not worry about the fate of my being, and just let me be.

That said, while I fully acknowledge men as men, I still sometimes feel like anyone on the transgender spectrum is a bit of a hybrid, neither male nor female. That's how it feels, and thats something nobody is going to get past. We tend to be a bit of a third gender although we acnowledge we are male or female. In any case, I wouldnt go around stating Im transgender, I like being just a guy to people, when people find out you are trans it alters their perceptions and they find the subtle hints that they would normally miss.


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FTMax

I did go through a period where I was hyper critical of myself and other transguys. But then I realized there is just as much variation among cisgender male bodies as there is with ours, and I got over that pretty quick. I think it's a fairly common feeling to experience, especially early on or when things are not moving along as quickly as you would expect them to be going. You can't help but compare.

That said - every step I've taken in my medical transition has led to a shift in my dysphoria. HRT worked to fix my social anxiety and did help with my self image, but it made me more aware of my chest. Top surgery instantly made me more comfortable with my body, but I suddenly started to experience genital dysphoria. Each step did cause me to have some smaller scale feelings like you're expressing, where I'd compare myself to cis men and feel inadequate, or where I'd compare myself to post-op trans men and feel like I was either better or worse off depending on how I interpreted their results. This experience has been echoed by almost every guy I've spoken to who has pursued bottom surgery. And FWIW, once we've all gotten to a point that we're comfortable with, 99% of those feelings go away.

So it could be that as some things are working out for you, you're becoming more aware of the things that aren't and getting overly critical about them. Is some of that rooted in transphobia? The way you've expressed it here, I have to say yes. And I think you'd probably benefit from talking to a therapist about it.
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Sophia Sage

Quote from: FTMax on November 20, 2016, 11:07:27 AMevery step I've taken in my medical transition has led to a shift in my dysphoria. HRT worked to fix my social anxiety and did help with my self image, but it made me more aware of my chest. Top surgery instantly made me more comfortable with my body, but I suddenly started to experience genital dysphoria. Each step did cause me to have some smaller scale feelings like you're expressing...

From the other side of the fence, I've noticed much the same.  Well, more or less -- I had dysphoria about everything from the get go, and each thing got chipped away, the dysphoria for what was left just became that much more intense. The only "new" dysphorias that cropped up for had to do with my relationship at the time.

QuoteIs some of that rooted in transphobia? The way you've expressed it here, I have to say yes. And I think you'd probably benefit from talking to a therapist about it.

I disagree with this -- being gender dysphoric isn't transphobic.  Rather, it's rooted in a keen understanding of how gender is actually constructed, which begins with our embodiment and extends to the social implications thereof.
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FTMax

Quote from: Sophia Sage on November 20, 2016, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: FTMax on November 20, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
Is some of that rooted in transphobia? The way you've expressed it here, I have to say yes. And I think you'd probably benefit from talking to a therapist about it.

I disagree with this -- being gender dysphoric isn't transphobic.  Rather, it's rooted in a keen understanding of how gender is actually constructed, which begins with our embodiment and extends to the social implications thereof.

My interpretation hinged on the comparative comments, and the apparent difficulty OP has in seeing trans men as men because of the difference in aesthetic that some people have. That isn't as experiencing dysphoria about your own body IMO, but rather an antagonistic attitude or feeling related to the fact that the people you're judging are not cis.
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Kylo

This reminds me of a conversation I saw between a transman and a cis man. The cis man said:

"Have fun being a 5'3" male."

And it made me think - this is idealism. The cis guy was saying there's no point even bothering to try if you don't already fit the profile of Adonis.

Which rules out an awful lot of regular cis men from "being men" for their height, weight, build, moobs, small penises, big butts, etc.

Forget having the perfect body or trying to obtain perfection because nobody has it. Except perhaps that small sliver of the male population who appear to be Adonises, and who knows what imperfections they are hiding.

I wish people would quit thinking they have internalized hatred of something, unless they know for sure that they do. I don't want to be a woman and it does NOT mean I hate women. I do not particularly want to experience the hassle of being trans but it does NOT mean I hate the trans. There are certain people out there in the world very intent on convincing everyone that they have innate hatred of other groups, and I find it very disturbing that people are adopting this view. I don't think it'll be conductive to harmony and real progress in society, the opposite in fact, as we are beginning to see playing out in the world. This train of thought is inherently divisive.
"If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
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Sophia Sage

Quote from: FTMax on November 20, 2016, 07:43:13 PMMy interpretation hinged on the comparative comments, and the apparent difficulty OP has in seeing trans men as men because of the difference in aesthetic that some people have. That isn't as experiencing dysphoria about your own body IMO, but rather an antagonistic attitude or feeling related to the fact that the people you're judging are not cis.

Oh, good point.  He could be externalizing his dysphoria, or internalizing his judgment of others.  Yeah, it could go either way.  Or both. 

Actually, there's something else here, too:  Bacon's statement that "I feel like they, and I, don't have the right to say we're men."  It's the idea that one's interiority doesn't matter, that it doesn't have any inherent validity.  I don't think that has anything to do with dysphoria or transphobia.  This lack of acknowledgment of inherent value is more a disease of Western culture at large. 
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Kylo

Quote from: Sophia Sage on November 21, 2016, 10:58:28 PM
This lack of acknowledgment of inherent value is more a disease of Western culture at large.

Which cultures do not have this 'disease'?

Would they be cultures that decide on physical basis what is and isn't male and female and typically deny or discourage the idea of gender fluidity? Because those cultures - like all - would surely be placing inherent value in what they see as male and female. If Western culture is beginning accept the idea of fluidity and the worth of the person over the inherent value and perception of gender, would that not be preferable?

There are some who would argue that blurring the lines of gender is actually the symptom of the loss of the inherent value of gender in this society, and an indication of disease, nihilism, etc.

One person's disease appears to be another's panacea.
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Sophia Sage

Quote from: T.K.G.W. on November 22, 2016, 04:36:57 PM
Which cultures do not have this 'disease'?

Would they be cultures that decide on physical basis what is and isn't male and female and typically deny or discourage the idea of gender fluidity? Because those cultures - like all - would surely be placing inherent value in what they see as male and female. If Western culture is beginning accept the idea of fluidity and the worth of the person over the inherent value and perception of gender, would that not be preferable?

There are some who would argue that blurring the lines of gender is actually the symptom of the loss of the inherent value of gender in this society, and an indication of disease, nihilism, etc.

One person's disease appears to be another's panacea.

Sorry, I don't mean "inherent value" in terms of gender. 

I mean that in the West, it's fairly widely accepted that people don't have inherent value, in and of themselves.  No, you have to prove your worth, primarily through generating economic value.  You're only worth what the market will bear. It is a denial of immanence, and hence a denial of interiority. 

/soapbox

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Jean24

Quote from: Bacon on November 19, 2016, 07:26:23 PM
So I've been on T for almost 5 months now, the first couple months were great and I was happy and comfortable with myself and excited for my transition, but lately I've been slipping back into the depression and over-analytical nature that I had before starting it.

I've been feeling once again like I'll never be satisfied with my transition. I feel like I'll never view myself as a real man and that I'll always be inadequate. That there's nothing I can do to escape the fact that I was born female and that this fact will always be in the back of my mind and will not allow me to truly feel or live my life as a man. I sometimes can imagine myself looking totally masculine and letting my male self shine, but I fear that my female self will "check" that self and make sure she limits his happiness.

I feel disgusted by transmen in general, including myself. When I look at pictures of top surgery results, for example, I think they almost always look bad. I'll sometimes watch videos of trans guys that have been on T for 5 years and they look good to most people, but I'll notice how they still have feminine hips or other things that "give them away", and I'll be critical of them. I feel like they, and I, don't have the right to say we're men.

I keep thinking that no matter what, instead of feeling like a real man, I'll feel like a woman that took hormones, got my boobs cut off, etc. Less than a woman and less than a man, and therefore stuck in a horrible "in between" existence.

I don't want to feel this way. It's making me feel so depressed all over again. It's even making me go back to the thoughts of "maybe I should try to live as a woman and be happy in the body I was given". My female body is extremely nice (for a female) and I'm scared that I'll ruin it for no reason, that no matter what I do, I'll never be happy with my results and that I'll always view myself as lesser for being trans.

At the same time, it probably goes without saying that I tried for so many years to be happy as a woman and I couldn't do that either. When I think about truly going back to living as a female, I know I can't, but I also feel like I can't fully live as a man. I feel so stuck.

I guess this is probably internalized transphobia (and possibly internalized misogyny?) or something but I don't know how to shake it. Anyone else deal with this?

Yes, I've dealt with those feelings! I might be going in the opposite direction but it feels the same. I'd ask myself "Is it really worth cutting off ___ and ruining ___?" Aside from being a tad on the thin side I had a nice body for a guy. I wasn't overweight, short, losing hair, I had good muscle tone, etc.

There are 2 things that I would like to tell you to help you get through this:

The first is that there are ways to hide nearly all characteristics you don't like. Hips on fully transitioned transguys to me, are not at all detectable. I would suggest a few things: put fat on your waist once you start T. Lower H:W ratio is so important. Try to end up with a .9 or higher. Men are also top heavy looking with muscular shoulders and arms, while women are fairly balanced. Finally, do what you can to get the fat deposits off of your legs. Via working out. Keep in mind as a guy it's easier for you to burn fat because you have more muscle to burn it with. I would also use minoxidil for men (rogaine) because it's been shown to cause facial hair in some women. Use it on your brows, upper lip, chin, chest, arms, and legs.

The second thing you need to hear is that you can change all of your records. Name, birth certificate, etc. under sealed session. Then update records with various agencies and banks. As for the more complicated biological stuff, don't worry about a thing. FtMs are going to see a HUGE advance in their medical care very soon. Next year, penis transplants will begin to take place for the general population and transgender people are expected to follow shortly (keep in mind transplants are not sex specific). Gene therapy is making huge advancements which will help immune systems cope. In the next ten to twenty years, doctors will be permitted (they're already able to do this) to regenerate organs from your own stem cells, print them out with a 3D printer, and put them in/on you. In short complete sex changes will be possible in the 2030s.

Here's a link to the transplant page
http://fusion.net/story/303034/penis-transplants-and-transgender-men/

Make progress in the direction that you feel is best, but remember it's not where you have come from, but where you're going.
Trying to take it one day at a time :)
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AnxietyDisord3r

You say your body looks nice for a female but you don't really seem to be loving your body at all. Instead you are cataloguing everything that is "wrong" with it. If you truly loved your body you would not be afraid to cure your dysphoria.

Maybe the only way to accept your body is to tell yourself to. Meditation might help. I would suggest Zen meditation or awareness meditation. Your body has made you angry and you need to forgive it. When you have come to terms with your body you will be ready to start taking medical steps.
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AnxietyDisord3r

Quote from: T.K.G.W. on November 21, 2016, 08:26:53 PM
I wish people would quit thinking they have internalized hatred of something, unless they know for sure that they do. I don't want to be a woman and it does NOT mean I hate women. I do not particularly want to experience the hassle of being trans but it does NOT mean I hate the trans. There are certain people out there in the world very intent on convincing everyone that they have innate hatred of other groups, and I find it very disturbing that people are adopting this view. I don't think it'll be conductive to harmony and real progress in society, the opposite in fact, as we are beginning to see playing out in the world. This train of thought is inherently divisive.

There is nothing divisive about acknowledging reality. If I feel anger and hatred towards people during my day, I need to acknowledge it. If I don't, if I try to ignore or suppress it, it will fester and I will become more irritable, erratic, and unreasonable.

We can't find peace between people unless we acknowledge our negative emotions when they occur.
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Bacon

Thanks for the replies. Sorry I didn't respond to this thread for a while. Finals month and all. But this has still been weighing on my mind in the midst of everything else I've been doing and I can't stand it.

I just keep feeling like saying "I'm a man" or "I'm male" is delusional and there's no way around it. I can say "I wish I was born as a male" or something like that, and since it's a wish, it can't be argued with. But saying "I am a male"? How can I say that? How can any trans guy truly say that?

If all it takes to be male is to "identify" as male or say one is male, then hypothetically speaking, if every member of a girl's soccer team suddenly said they were male, should they compete against boys' soccer teams? Would they be a male team all of a sudden?

If you ask most people, "what is a male?", they are likely to say "someone with a penis". They are extremely unlikely to say "a male is anyone that has a male brain structure", "a male is someone who feels male on the inside", or even "a male is someone that is testosterone dominant", etc. It's just not reality.

I see so many trans guys (even pre-T) easily and unshakably say they're guys, men, etc, and I feel dumbfounded and jealous of how they can truly believe that and feel that way, when to me, it seems like an exercise in delusion.

I also feel annoyed when they say stuff like "I keep getting misgendered and called female, I don't know why" or whatever because it's like...well, maybe that's because you are a female? You have a vagina and breasts? Could that be why people are "misgendering" you?

I don't know. I just have a lot of negative feelings about this lately and it's making me depressed all over again.

I feel like maybe I could be happy again if I could start being delusional like other trans people and 100% view myself as a man despite all the biological reality to the contrary, but I don't know how to do that. I was able to for a short while when I first came out, and I was happy then, but along the way, something shifted back to "wait, no matter what I do to transition, I'll still always be a female" and it's hard to shake.

I also think that having my happiness depend on how strongly I can believe in a fantasy is a scary place to be. Like if I ignore reality enough and come to really believe my fantasy, I may be happy, but is that the right way to be happy?
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Sophia Sage

Bacon, gender categories do not have an ontological existence.  They are not "objective" -- the categories themselves are neurologically constructed based on the shape of our bodies and mediated through social interaction. 

Given this, the question isn't about whether you "really are" (ooh, what a loaded phrase) one or the other.  Rather, it's about what it's going to take for you and others to assign to your preferred category.  So, if you know you prefer being gendered male, well, that's not going to go away, no matter how much you try to logic yourself away from that, because emotion precedes logic, emotion is generated by the subconscious, though more or less permanent structures in your brain. 

So what does it take to get your preferred gendering?  This is basically where the archaic term of "passing" comes in.  We assign gender based on embodied features -- the shape and arrangement of the face, of hair, of the chest, of voice, and of course (in private) from our genitals.  Change the body, and the gendering you need will change.  And if you're compelled enough to actually do all this, and you do it, well, that's proof enough of what you "really are" when it comes to your interiority.

Where a lot of transitioners get hung up is thinking that all it takes to receive one's preferred gendering is a story, a narrative. People don't get misgendered because they "really are" something else, they get misgendered because of embodied features.  Hell, I've worked with cis men who get "ma'am" on the phone, not because they're really women, but because of their voices.  I've known cis women who get "sir" at the grocery store because flat chested and narrow-hipped, or have short hair and a deep voice, or like to grow their chin hairs out (really!) and not because they "really are" men.

What's delusional is to think that your interiority doesn't matter.  On the contrary, it's the only thing that matters in the end.  Without interiority, there's no point to anything. 
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LiliFee

Quote from: T.K.G.W. on November 21, 2016, 08:26:53 PM
I wish people would quit thinking they have internalized hatred of something, unless they know for sure that they do. I don't want to be a woman and it does NOT mean I hate women. I do not particularly want to experience the hassle of being trans but it does NOT mean I hate the trans. There are certain people out there in the world very intent on convincing everyone that they have innate hatred of other groups, and I find it very disturbing that people are adopting this view. I don't think it'll be conductive to harmony and real progress in society, the opposite in fact, as we are beginning to see playing out in the world. This train of thought is inherently divisive.

Perhaps that pretty much sums it up. This world is filled with people who do nothing more than to teach others to project their fears on each other. We do it all the time, in telling our children to stick to the norms. For girls to wear frocks, for boys to play with gun toys. Otherwise, you might end up falling out of whatever boat you're in.

Quote from: Bacon on December 13, 2016, 12:24:07 PM
I just keep feeling like saying "I'm a man" or "I'm male" is delusional and there's no way around it. I can say "I wish I was born as a male" or something like that, and since it's a wish, it can't be argued with. But saying "I am a male"? How can I say that? How can any trans guy truly say that?

[...]

I also think that having my happiness depend on how strongly I can believe in a fantasy is a scary place to be. Like if I ignore reality enough and come to really believe my fantasy, I may be happy, but is that the right way to be happy?

Well guess what: that's all constructed. It's something you, and the people around you PUT IN YOUR HEAD. And since it got put there, it might as well get taken out. These things aren't innate, they can be changed. Sure it takes effort, but this is the hidden part of transition most of us don't dare speak about. The fact we have to fight our OWN fears, to come to terms with that part of us that got programmed into us, that part that makes us hate those who deviate.

Fear, all of it is fear. And the best way of overcoming fear is to face it head on. Which, in your case, means: keep transitioning! Become that object you fear so much, feel the man in you roar. Because he didn't get put there, he was there before those around you taught you to hate and fear him.

He's gonna win anyway :D
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Bacon

But these things were taught for a reason. Everyone always says they are "constructs" but they are based in physical reality. By transitioning, most trans people actually accept and embrace those constructs anyway; trans men realize that to be "male" is to have certain physical features and that's why they go through transition, to get them. So they are buying into the categories just as much as anyone else.

All this talk of interiority just doesn't do it for me either. I wish it did. I really do! I want to believe that I can be a man just because I want to be. But it still doesn't sit well with me.

For example, let's say a kid was raised to be a lawyer and got his law degree, but as he grew up, he realized he actually wanted to be a doctor! Looking back, it all makes sense: he loved playing Operation as a kid and he always hated watching crime dramas. So it's settled then: he was always really meant to be a doctor. And now, despite the fact that he has a law degree, he claims he already IS a doctor. He insists that everyone calls him Dr. Smith and come see him for medical care. He even goes as far as getting a fake medical degree printed out, and it looks legit enough that most people who see him think it's authentic.

This is sometimes what it seems like to me when trans people say they ARE the gender that they weren't assigned at birth.

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LiliFee

Quote from: Bacon on December 13, 2016, 03:00:55 PM
But these things were taught for a reason. Everyone always says they are "constructs" but they are based in physical reality. By transitioning, most trans people actually accept and embrace those constructs anyway; trans men realize that to be "male" is to have certain physical features and that's why they go through transition, to get them. So they are buying into the categories just as much as anyone else.

Really? How about those of us identifying as non-binary or genderfluid? In any case, you should definitely read up on Judith Butler, she's worked those ideas out in a fantastic book called 'Gender Trouble'.

It sounds like you're trying to use your intellect to objectify an experience that is very subjective and unique to all those undergoing it. Perhaps you should watch out with that, and not generalize so much. "trans men" don't exist as a group, and nor do "trans women".

Surely, my transition has taken a different path than what you're suggesting... The deeper I get into it, the more I see the innateness of my femininity and the reciprocity with my body. Again: this is my subjective experience, I suggest you have your own :)
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Elis

I was the same way early into realising I was trans. It took months of educating myself on trans people and the biological backing for me to think it being delusional thinking doesn't make much if any logical sense. If a cis man had a circumcision gone wrong so he was raised a girl (which has actually happened) and then starting assisting he was a boy; we wouldn't call that delusioning bcos the evidence backs him up. Or if a women was born without a uterus we wouldn't say she wasn't female.

You'll get there :). You're a man born with a recognised health issue; simple as that.
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Sophia Sage

Quote from: Bacon on December 13, 2016, 03:00:55 PMEveryone always says they are "constructs" but they are based in physical reality. By transitioning, most trans people actually accept and embrace those constructs anyway; trans men realize that to be "male" is to have certain physical features and that's why they go through transition, to get them. So they are buying into the categories just as much as anyone else.

Then let's talk of what it means for a category to be "constructed."  The categories are constructed from the perceived physical differences of our bodies.  And yes, there are underlying biological processes involved for such differentiation, but they are not absolute; there is no "essence" to a category.  A category is not a logical "set," where some set of singular properties are "necessary" to belong to the category, as so much of analytic philosophy believes.  Rather, according to neurological research, categories are formed around "images" or "schemas" in the brain, and extend radially.  We will categorize something as "x" not according to necessary properties, but rather to a sufficient number of them. 

Now, you're right, we have to conform to the categories as they are constructed.  But they are not actually constructed a priori with some sort of essence!  To change categories for ourselves is simply a matter of changing our bodies sufficiently for everyone to recategorize us, automatically, without even thinking of it.  This is an automatic neurological process, how we assign gender to other people.  We do it subconsciously, instantly. 


QuoteAll this talk of interiority just doesn't do it for me either. I wish it did. I really do! I want to believe that I can be a man just because I want to be. But it still doesn't sit well with me.

For example, let's say a kid was raised to be a lawyer and got his law degree, but as he grew up, he realized he actually wanted to be a doctor! Looking back, it all makes sense: he loved playing Operation as a kid and he always hated watching crime dramas. So it's settled then: he was always really meant to be a doctor. And now, despite the fact that he has a law degree, he claims he already IS a doctor. He insists that everyone calls him Dr. Smith and come see him for medical care. He even goes as far as getting a fake medical degree printed out, and it looks legit enough that most people who see him think it's authentic.

This is actually a really good example of what it takes to really transition (or perhaps "transsex") across the gender binary.  So, you were raised to go to law school, and you've got your degree.  But you really want to be a doctor!  So what's the course of action to take to fulfill your interiority, to become a doctor?  Go to medical school.  Get a new degree.  Yes, it takes time and work, and no, to rely on just a narrative isn't going to cut it in the real world.  But there's no reason you can't become a doctor just because you've been a lawyer.  They're not mutually exclusive. 

So there's more to it than just getting a new document (like a birth certificate, or a drivers' license).  And there's more to it than just looking the part -- ask anyone who got clocked just for opening their mouth.  And beyond that, there's even more, learning about social expectations, some of which were observed from afar and simply not practiced, and others which only dawn on you as you're immersed in your field.  (Which is actually true for everyone, because cultural expectations are local, and what flies in a rural community doesn't fly in a big cosmopolitan city.) 

Now, if you're practicing medicine without an actual degree, are you still a doctor?  Depends on whether you know your stuff, if you're actually good at it.  If you're good at it, no one will question you; everyone will agree you're a docotr.  Likewise, just because some actually has a medical degree doesn't mean they're not actually a butcher when it comes to the actual practice of medicine.  So, obviously, "authority" doesn't really make doctors, people make themselves doctors by studying and practicing medicine. 


QuoteThis is sometimes what it seems like to me when trans people say they ARE the gender that they weren't assigned at birth.

This "narrative" of saying what you "are" is a ritual.  It's called "coming out," and it's based on the LGB ritual of coming out in a heteronormative society.  For gays, lesbians, and bisexuals, all it takes is a narrative to have people treat you differently, and you have to participate in the ritual or you won't find other like-minded people to have non-hetero sex with. 

It doesn't quite work when it comes to gender, does it?  Well, to some extent, yes -- but what "coming out" as a different gender than the one everyone (constantly, daily, automatically, subconsciously) is assigning you actually does is move you into the social category of "trans."  And for a lot of people, that's good enough!  Because at least being treated as "other" is different than being treated as being on previous the gender binary, and for a lot of transitioners this actually accurately captures their own interior experience.  Couple that with the fact that many people are gracious enough to "see" the preferred gendering and adhere to it, thanks to compassion and empathy in the face of the coming-out ritual, and it makes sense why "narrative" is so popular.   

For others, though, that's not what's actually needed, because what's actually needed is a particular kind of gendering, which is when physical transition is actually necessary.  Because it's our bodies that elicit gendering, nothing more.  And if this is what you want, all the narrative in the world isn't going to cut it.  If you, Bacon, want male gendering, from yourself and others, it starts by changing your body.  And then, funnily enough, actually accepting that gendering when everyone is giving it to you. 

You cannot change what you need, any more than you can wish away hunger or thirst. 

May you never hunger.  May you never thirst.
What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it.
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