Susan's Place Logo

News:

Please be sure to review The Site terms of service, and rules to live by

Main Menu

Update

Started by Xirafel, November 21, 2016, 08:31:38 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Dena

Quote from: Xirafel on December 13, 2016, 02:45:27 AM
There was one staff member on here who told me that there's a very real risk of the therapist deciding to lock me up in a mental hospital.
When I was still in my therapy group, one MTF member thought all the tests they were given were silly and put down all sorts of strange answers. As the results, after the test were analyzed, she was given extra therapy time because they felt she was unstable.

If you treat your therapist the same way you post on the forum, I can understand why they may think that way. Your best bet to speed the process is honesty and treat the therapist as adults that deserve the best answer you can provide. Therapy is serious and the quicker they can understand you and what you feel, the faster you will move through treatment. Or you can be like that distant member and take all the time you want in therapy.
Rebirth Date 1982 - PMs are welcome - Use [email]dena@susans.org[/email] or Discord if your unable to PM - Skype is available - My Transition
If you are helped by this site, consider leaving a tip in the jar at the bottom of the page or become a subscriber
  •  

Xirafel

I should just destroy that evil thing. It's all it's fault. That worthless piece of garbage.
**** those useless therapists. Seeing a gender specialist would make me biased? What the hell was that nonsense about, that useless woman.

And she doesn't listen to a single ****ing thing for a single moment and blathers on and on with the ****** name. **** the therapists. **** this country. **** this world.
Honesty? Hahahahaha. Self-harm is already enough justification to throw you in a strait jacket and strap you down in a mental hospital.

And then, they'll pump you full of anti-psychotics. Perhaps, they'll detect the elevated estrogen levels and feed me androgens too, as it could be "causing these abnormalities".
  •  

Xirafel

Too mentally unstable? Well, of course. That thing is making me more and more mentally unstable. Therapy won't fix that (talking to someone in a room). No, it'll make it worse as it wastes time.

It depends on what you mean by "therapy".
  •  

Xirafel

By any chance, do you remember the article I linked where they had some woman who was dying from internal bleeding, but they ignored the symptoms like how she was behaving and attributed it to mental illness.

In reality, it was caused by a lack of oxygen to the brain. And then, she died.
That's what I think of therapists. You don't simply "pick" a therapist, once they decide to lock you up, you're stuck with them and whatever "treatments" they decide to apply.

As said by one of the staff members on here.
  •  

Michelle_P

Xirafel, Dena makes a very good point.  Therapy is a cooperative process.  You have to be as honest as possible with the therapist.  No hedging, no BS.  It is hard work, for you! 

Therapists are not useless.  Not co-operating with a therapist is useless, a waste of your time and the therapist's time.  The therapist is there to help you help yourself.  That's how this works. 

You can move forward, or you can sit there with your head running in circles. It's your choice.  YOUR CHOICE.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
Michelle's personal blog and biography
  •  

LizK

Hi Xirafel

I was just wondering, has any, of what the many people who have taken time to respond to you have said, actually resonate with you, in any way?

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
  •  

Xirafel

To be fair, @ElizabethK.

They did just dodge everything I said and cherry-picked parts.
And I don't think they read older pages, understandable. In short, I don't have the finances or means to get a therapist, so all of this paranoia and persuasion and responsibility talk in reaction to my idle rambling is a little less effective than you might expect.

We're just going back and forth on whether therapists are evil when it probably doesn't even matter for a year or two, as I don't have the finances or means to hire one.
Whether they have the capability to lock me up on a whim like Kelly suggested is irrelevant when I can't even summon one.

Thus, the bridging methods. I do have a psychologist-ish. And she basically ignores everything I say and tries to force me towards her conclusions. Whether "good therapists" outside of her exist is irrelevant when I don't have the means or finances to summon them.

I whine about therapists being obstacles as they literally are obstacles.
An immovable wall I've been tackling for the past few months who just ignores everything I say. Someone saying that any therapist would "agree with me" on a forum is useless when my psychologist will just turn around and say... Nope.

Maybe in America where people can do whatever they want, and the psychologist is more interested in making a quick buck. Hell, there are even young teenagers on full HRT.

I have all the time in the world to ponder over whether therapists might be worth it in a year or two based on information I'm provided about their capabilities and tendencies. I might as-well indulge in my paranoia a little.

Hm, I do have a friend who is more on my wavelength. We even have similar interests. Very similar o.o
Anime. Games. Even code o.o

Uh, that's probably not too relevant. On the bright side, this is apparently a really good university, so it's probably not as shoddy as the previous one. My previous one was absolutely atrocious.

Urm, what was the name again. Uh... I forgot x.x
Apparently, the food there's cheap. That's always good. I'll get to stash part of that money in my bank account. That's how I scrounge for money.
  •  

LShipley

Well, to be fair, in every post you have made in each of the different forums at least one person has replied with helpful suggestions. At least one person. From ingrown hairs to therapy to support groups to simply helpful guidance many people have reached out. Whether you take their advice or even acknowledge it is another thing, but the truth is clear to anyone who looks..

We can blame as many people as we want but in the end we are responsible for our own happiness. No one here has been a roadblock to you
  •  

LizK

Quote from: Xirafel on December 15, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
To be fair, @ElizabethK.

They did just dodge everything I said and cherry-picked parts.
And I don't think they read older pages, understandable. In short, I don't have the finances or means to get a therapist, so all of this paranoia and persuasion and responsibility talk in reaction to my idle rambling is a little less effective than you might expect.

We're just going back and forth on whether therapists are evil when it probably doesn't even matter for a year or two, as I don't have the finances or means to hire one.
Whether they have the capability to lock me up on a whim like Kelly suggested is irrelevant when I can't even summon one.

Thus, the bridging methods. I do have a psychologist-ish. And she basically ignores everything I say and tries to force me towards her conclusions. Whether "good therapists" outside of her exist is irrelevant when I don't have the means or finances to summon them.

I whine about therapists being obstacles as they literally are obstacles.
An immovable wall I've been tackling for the past few months who just ignores everything I say. Someone saying that any therapist would "agree with me" on a forum is useless when my psychologist will just turn around and say... Nope.

Maybe in America where people can do whatever they want, and the psychologist is more interested in making a quick buck. Hell, there are even young teenagers on full HRT.

I have all the time in the world to ponder over whether therapists might be worth it in a year or two based on information I'm provided about their capabilities and tendencies. I might as-well indulge in my paranoia a little.

Hm, I do have a friend who is more on my wavelength. We even have similar interests. Very similar o.o
Anime. Games. Even code o.o

Uh, that's probably not too relevant. On the bright side, this is apparently a really good university, so it's probably not as shoddy as the previous one. My previous one was absolutely atrocious.

Urm, what was the name again. Uh... I forgot x.x
Apparently, the food there's cheap. That's always good. I'll get to stash part of that money in my bank account. That's how I scrounge for money.

Thankyou for your response. I understand your frustration at being in this situation. I agree certainly some of the responders have not read the entire thread but it can be very hard reading and to many probably doesn't make much sense...it does to me because I have been following along but even I have lost the gist of what you are trying to say, at times.

Have you tried anything that has been suggested by anyone? Maybe dismissing each and every suggestion before actually trying anything, stops people from wanting to respond and be helpful.

Do you really want us to help? We want to help...this is a support board and we don't want to chase anyone off especially any who need help. It is distressing for us to see you in distress and not be able to help...so please let us...life does not have to be one long continuous ongoing pain for you.

Sounds like your friend could be an ally? Are you able to see them frequently?

Universities can be a bit of a mixed bunch but so long as you are happy with it...you could join the student unioin who I am sure could give you some pointers to some "cash"...you might have to work for it but they will know as they deal with international students all the time...You are able to work under a student visa...I can't remember al the rules as it was a long time ago but apart from that you can work on your New Zealand passport. It is open visa system, as a New Zealand passport holder you have all the same entitlements as an Australian with the exception of Voting and welfare for the first 2 years. After that you are entitled to medicare, and Centrelink services. You could have the funds you want if you are prepared to get a job.

Flipping burgers is not exactly a life long ambition but I have done a lot worse when I need money.

Take care and have some trust that we want to help you if we can..

Liz

Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
  •  

Xirafel

Pointers for some cash? Those university parasites. How much money do they want to leech from our household? We already pay them a stupendous amount of money, especially after they all put their prices up in the U.K. after our stupid government approved it.

Debt, debt, debt x.x

If I get a "part time" job, I will fail this course with absolute certainty and we will lose the many thousands of dollars invested into this venture. Also, it's not that simple. Not that simple at all.

The mental breakdown where I was incapable of doing nothing for quite a while was one thing, but I really, really don't have free time. I really don't. If it's not synergetic, it's not experience and it will detract from real experience making it harder to find a job.
  •  

Dena

My  nephew is in college and he works at a service station/min market and is able to pretty much set his hours. During summer vacation he can work full time and during the school year he works what he can. He sometimes has to work holidays to let people with families have time together but that a small price to pay for being able to set your hours most of the time. Figure out what you can work and look for a store type job. The tend to have a high turnover rate and often will work with students so the student can complete their education.

One other option is sometimes security jobs might allow you to do school work between rounds. That would allow you to study while working.
Rebirth Date 1982 - PMs are welcome - Use [email]dena@susans.org[/email] or Discord if your unable to PM - Skype is available - My Transition
If you are helped by this site, consider leaving a tip in the jar at the bottom of the page or become a subscriber
  •  

kelly_aus

Quote from: Xirafel on December 15, 2016, 05:32:47 PM
If I get a "part time" job, I will fail this course with absolute certainty and we will lose the many thousands of dollars invested into this venture. Also, it's not that simple. Not that simple at all.

Sounds like a time management issue. In my past I did one of the harder, more time consuming university degrees, but I was still able to find time to work - it wasn't optional, I needed to pay things like rent and bills.

QuoteThe mental breakdown where I was incapable of doing nothing for quite a while was one thing, but I really, really don't have free time. I really don't. If it's not synergetic, it's not experience and it will detract from real experience making it harder to find a job.

No employer expects the job(s) you have during study to be related to your degree. Any employment is a positive at that point as it shows some basic skills. Gaining employment is as much about who you are as it is your qualifications and experience these days - take that from someone who has done hiring.
  •  

Xirafel

 :'( My super best friend and I had a bit of a fight over a misunderstanding... They're ignoring me so much now... How do I fix it...? Please... help... help... :-\

...My...friend... They...know...everything....so...kind...  :'(
I'm literally crying...

I'm so sad that I don't feel anything from burning it and don't feel like beating it today...
Goodnight... I'm too depressed to post a rebuttal...
  •  

LizK

Quote from: Xirafel on December 17, 2016, 06:52:38 AM
:'( My super best friend and I had a bit of a fight over a misunderstanding... They're ignoring me so much now... How do I fix it...? Please... help... help... :-\

...My...friend... They...know...everything....so...kind...  :'(
I'm literally crying...

I'm so sad that I don't feel anything from burning it and don't feel like beating it today...
Goodnight... I'm too depressed to post a rebuttal...

Have you managed to patch things up/ speak to your friend? are you alright?

If you don't want to talk about it on the board then send me a PM...

Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
  •  

Xirafel

I talk to them, but they ignore me.
I apologize and they ignore me.
I desperately try to convince them that I'm sorry and they ignore me.

I'm just a worthless piece of trash...  :'(
  •  

LizK

Quote from: Xirafel on December 18, 2016, 04:30:30 AM
I talk to them, but they ignore me.
I apologize and they ignore me.
I desperately try to convince them that I'm sorry and they ignore me.

I'm just a worthless piece of trash...  :'(

If it was really bad then maybe some space for a day or so to let things calm? Do you think that would help

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
  •  

Xirafel

  •  

LizK

Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
  •  

Xirafel

I wonder if they will hate me forever...
  •  

LizK

sometimes, the only thing that works, to mend a situation like this, is time...

and no I don't think they will hate you forever and they are more likely just upset at the moment.

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
  •