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Requesting gender change on passport Monday - before name change

Started by AnxietyDisord3r, November 24, 2016, 05:14:19 AM

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AnxietyDisord3r

Got to get my gender change in before Jan 20. I have a gender letter from my surgeon. Name change is a little complicated so that hasn't been done yet but will be soon. Supposedly, if I change my name within a year the next passport will be free? Because it would be a bummer to pay the fee twice. Worth it, though.
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Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on November 24, 2016, 05:14:19 AM
Got to get my gender change in before Jan 20. I have a gender letter from my surgeon. Name change is a little complicated so that hasn't been done yet but will be soon. Supposedly, if I change my name within a year the next passport will be free? Because it would be a bummer to pay the fee twice. Worth it, though.

why not wait till you do the name change to get your passport?

kinda putting the cart before the horse aren't you?
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There is an old dictum within Civil Service, "Personnel IS Policy".  Some people, seeing a change in personnel in one country effective January 20, and considering other exogenous factors, are anticipating internal regulatory policy changes within one country's passport issuing agency to be made starting on January 20, 2017.  While hardly guaranteed, there is a possibility that the criteria for changing the gender marker on a passport may be revised.  Many folks in our community are trying to get their changes in documentation going prior to any possible change in rules, a reasonable precaution to take if this was something they were going to do anyway and they meet the standards of the current rules.

I also anticipate similar changes, but because I reside in a state, a region of that country, that has somewhat unusual rules compared to the rest of that country I am taking a somewhat different approach.

I have my court date for name and gender marker change on January 13, 2017.  I already have my paperwork ready to request a corrected birth certificate and drivers license ready to go.  The rules in my state are such that with a combined gender and name change, the drivers license and new birth certificate will have no visible indication of my old information.  The backing computer record for the license and the original birth certificate info are sealed and require a court order to access, so electronic records search will not show the old info.  I will also be updating my Social Security record with the court order.

With the new license and birth certificate, I can apply for a new passport.  Since all the documents will consistently reflect my gender, I won't need to submit a revealing surgeon's letter, and the application will look like any other of the millions that pass through the passport office each year.
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Quote from: audreytn on November 26, 2016, 12:48:54 PM
why not wait till you do the name change to get your passport?

kinda putting the cart before the horse aren't you?

Not if they revert to the old rules on Jan 20 like Mike Pence has threatened. I need this done now.

Michelle, sounds like you have a good situation with your state.
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The State Department website does say that if less than a year has passed and you are only changing your name, you don't pay any fees to update unless you want expedited service. You do have to provide them with your current passport, a certified court order, and a new passport photo.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/services/correction.html#Changes

I got my first passport two January's ago for work reasons. I hadn't gotten my name changed or had surgery yet, and didn't want to get a limited validity passport so I filed for it as dead name/F. By April of the same year I had my name change done and a letter from my surgeon. Had to pay full price for the new one.

So yes, if you've got the gender letter from your surgeon I'd personally say go for it. What I would do just to be on the safe side is print out the page on their website that discusses passport corrections due to name changes and applicable fees. It won't help you if they change the policy before you're able to get back in to make the name update, but it may help if they haven't updated the policy and you have a confused customer service person trying to charge you money for it.
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Thursday I saw my surgeon and I could get my letter but her notary was out sick. I return there tomorrow and hope it is notorized. The process I need is to get my birth certificate changed then my name and gender on my passport.

Anxietydisorder3rd, if changing you gender on your passport would make you feel better then I would do it. Peace of mind is worth the cost. At worst you would need to redo the passport. 
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Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on November 27, 2016, 07:47:08 AM
Not if they revert to the old rules on Jan 20 like Mike Pence has threatened. I need this done now.

Michelle, sounds like you have a good situation with your state.

any link of his threat?
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