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Started by Anastasija, December 02, 2016, 09:36:18 AM

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Anastasija

I wanted to ask whether the level of estradiol has an impact on the development of female characteristics, breast, or fat redistribution

I read that the normal female level of estradiol is 200, and in pregnant women unless the 600. But I read that some have to hṛt and the 1000+ level
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Angélique LaCava

Good question because when I got my levels done my estradiol was 183 and my testosterone was 14, that was 4 months ago.
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Anastasija

before i start hrt my T lvl: 1178, estradiol: 26

after 2 months T: 24 and E: 428

I'm just curious, however, the result of E has an impact on the development of characteristics in the sense that if I have to assume 100, is my qualities will grow worse than when I was 300?
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Angélique LaCava

How did you get your levels so high in a short time?
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Mariah

Key is the lowest affective dose for your body that it responds to. It differs for everyone. SO it isn't so much the dosage as it is what your body responds to and of course it just takes time. Hugs
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Denise

Mariah is absolutely right, everyone is different.

7 days after my 4th injection my levels went from E 35 to 388.  My Dr's reaction was "Wow, your ovulating, but seriously your body loves this stuff."

BTW - I stopped cold turkey (BAD IDEA) after 4 shots, restarted 4 months later and now after my 5th shot I have more development than I expected (Yippee) but blood work is not until February.
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: Denise on December 02, 2016, 10:58:39 AM
Mariah is absolutely right, everyone is different.

7 days after my 4th injection my levels went from E 35 to 388.  My Dr's reaction was "Wow, your ovulating, but seriously your body loves this stuff."

BTW - I stopped cold turkey (BAD IDEA) after 4 shots, restarted 4 months later and now after my 5th shot I have more development than I expected (Yippee) but blood work is not until February.
why am I only 187 and yall in the 300s?
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Denise

As Mariah indicated, everyone is different.  I don't think there is an explanation for it.

I started Spiro about a month (or two) before starting on the EV.  That may have helped.
1st Person out: 16-Oct-2015
Restarted Spironolactone 26-Aug-2016
Restarted Estradiol Valerate: 02-Nov-2016
Full time: 02-Mar-2017
Breast Augmentation (Schechter): 31-Oct-2017
FFS (Walton in Chicago): 25-Sep-2018
Vaginoplasty (Schechter): 13-Dec-2018









A haiku in honor of my grandmother who loved them.
The Voices are Gone
Living Life to the Fullest
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Anastasija

Quote from: Denise on December 02, 2016, 10:58:39 AM

7 days after my 4th injection my levels went from E 35 to 388.  My Dr's reaction was "Wow, your ovulating, but seriously your body loves this stuff.".

of course you have so high couse shots its most powerful E dosage, you do this every 2 weeks, and you make test after 1 week after shot, check your test after 2 weeks before shot, and dont take pills before test

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 02, 2016, 10:49:21 AM
How did you get your levels so high in a short time?

in my opinion because the dose adjusted to your body, I just accept ANDROCUR x2 + flutamidx2 _ estrofem 17x3

ANDROCUR and flutamide take morning and evening, and estrofem morning, evening and afternoon

Quote from: Denise on December 02, 2016, 11:11:53 AM
As Mariah indicated, everyone is different.  I don't think there is an explanation for it.

I started Spiro about a month (or two) before starting on the EV.  That may have helped.

i take estrofem and blockers from start, and like i say before hrt i had 1178 T lvl, so after 2 months its going down to 28
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 11:42:55 AM
of course you have so high couse shots its most powerful E dosage, you do this every 2 weeks, and you make test after 1 week after shot, check your test after 2 weeks before shot, and dont take pills before test

in my opinion because the dose adjusted to your body, I just accept ANDROCUR x2 + flutamidx2 _ estrofem 17x3

ANDROCUR and flutamide take morning and evening, and estrofem morning, evening and afternoon

i take estrofem and blockers from start, and like i say before hrt i had 1178 T lvl, so after 2 months its going down to 28
so if you take an estradiol pill 5 hours before a blood test it will affect it and not show accurate results? I split my dosage 3 times a day.
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Mia

 ??? Hmmm, my numbers are radically different than anyone else's I've seen here.

I started HRT in 2014 - back then, E=19, T=668. About 6 months later, taking oral Estradiol, my levels were E=1457, T=46.

Fast forward to March, 2016 (about 2 years later). Now using Estradiol Valerate injections, E=2276.9, T=8. But the lab results state "Normal".

I'm not sure if there are different methods of determining E levels? This is Estrogen Total Serum, in pg/Ml.
Mia


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Anastasija

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 02, 2016, 12:03:18 PM
so if you take an estradiol pill 5 hours before a blood test it will affect it and not show accurate results? I split my dosage 3 times a day.

ofcourse, couse for example if you take injection and you go after 3 days make test it can show crazy e lvl, couse

as an injection has the highest concentration and is maintained for a long time, because E is released over about two weeks.

The same pill, depending on how you take, but I think E pills is released by 2h. Another thing as taking pills or swallow or dissolution. If you swallow the uptake is faster and produces only about 5% efficiency and the dissolution of about 25%.

according to my study should be done the day before injection and completely fasting, then the result is the most reliable. but I can be wrong

Quote from: Mia on December 02, 2016, 12:22:52 PM
???
Fast forward to March, 2016 (about 2 years later). Now using Estradiol Valerate injections, E=2276.9, T=8. But the lab results state "Normal".

I'm not sure if there are different methods of determining E levels? This is Estrogen Total Serum, in pg/Ml.

im not say not normal, but i tell 1 again its diffrent when you make test,

if, for example. You took the day before injection and 2 tablets, or for example, the day before injection, and in the morning wziełeąs tablet before the test results would be high, as if to measure pressure directly after the race and the wonder that is a high pulse.

I was more sure: for example, having a high level of E, better developed breasts or fat redistribution
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
ofcourse, couse for example if you take injection and you go after 3 days make test it can show crazy e lvl, couse

as an injection has the highest concentration and is maintained for a long time, because E is released over about two weeks.

The same pill, depending on how you take, but I think E pills is released by 2h. Another thing as taking pills or swallow or dissolution. If you swallow the uptake is faster and produces only about 5% efficiency and the dissolution of about 25%.

according to my study should be done the day before injection and completely fasting, then the result is the most reliable. but I can be wrong
are their substantial evidence to prove letting it melt gives more of the dose because if so I'm going to start letting it melt.
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Angélique LaCava

Also can you take any estradiol pill sublingually?
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Anastasija

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 02, 2016, 01:05:57 PM
Also can you take any estradiol pill sublingually?

at the start sory for my English but it is coarse, but studies are done that dissolve under the tongue give results much, much bigger. Why? because dissolving tablet in the mouth the first absorption begins through the lymphatic system, the mouth is the most innervated place all over the body, then part of it is absorbed in the esophagus, and the remnant if you hit it in the stomach.

and at the end the most important, taking dissolved tablets are not destroyest a liver.

yes its estrofem 17, but i do that same with progynova

but progynova has a worst result
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
at the start sory for my English but it is coarse, but studies are done that dissolve under the tongue give results much, much bigger. Why? because dissolving tablet in the mouth the first absorption begins through the lymphatic system, the mouth is the most innervated place all over the body, then part of it is absorbed in the esophagus, and the remnant if you hit it in the stomach.

and at the end the most important, taking dissolved tablets are not destroyest a liver.

yes its estrofem 17, but i do that same with progynova

but progynova has a worst result
so you can take any estrogen pill sublingually? I just looked online and it says the pill has to be specifically sublingual
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Anastasija

of course you can, if maybe they dont have horrible taste.

the dissolution, 1 absorption occurs in the oral cavity and is the highest. As tablet goes to the stomach is a huge part of it is eaten by liver
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Angélique LaCava

Quote from: Anastasija on December 02, 2016, 01:26:34 PM
of course you can, if maybe they dont have horrible taste.

the dissolution, 1 absorption occurs in the oral cavity and is the highest. As tablet goes to the stomach is a huge part of it is eaten by liver
how do you know when to swallow it? When its completely powder?
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Anastasija

im not swallowed it, i just wait when its gone im mounth, its take 20-30 min. try to use as little saliva
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AshleyP

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on December 02, 2016, 01:17:59 PM
so you can take any estrogen pill sublingually? I just looked online and it says the pill has to be specifically sublingual

Angélique, google transascity sublingual vs oral and you'll find a link to a good report on the subject along with graphs and citations. Seems that I read somewhere that all oral E2 is micronized and therefore is able to be absorbed sublingually. Someone else might be able to provide more/different info on that. I would post a link but sometime in the past I was moderated for that.

I've tried it, and the tablet completely dissolves under the tongue with no residue in just a few minutes. I would recommend talking it over with your physician if you have some interest in it.

All the best,
--AshleyP



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