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Still getting morning erection every so often after awhile on HRT?

Started by DuchessBianca, December 18, 2016, 10:03:26 AM

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DuchessBianca

Hello! I always hate talking about these topics as I always feel embarrassed but here I go, Just 2 days short of 7 months on HRT and I've read many posts regarding others saying that they completely disappeared but for me I still have then maybe once a week or once every 10 days or so it feels like, is this another YMMV thing? For regular erections I don't try for them often as the less I have to acknowledge those parts the better but for the purpose of future SRS I force myself once a week or so to prevent loss of size as I don't really have much but anyway back on topic it does take a bit of effort to get a regular erection and sometimes to keep it but not a ton of effort. My estradiol levels last time I was checked are perfectly in female range, I've noticed a lot of upper body strength loss, any ejaculate is minuscule in amount and always clear/extremely thick, get tired easily and generally a lack of energy. Been on Spiro for 7 months and Finasteride for 1.5 and of course Estrogen.  I plan to bring it up to my doctor when I have my appointment in 3.5 weeks but figured it won't hurt to ask here, is this most likely a YMMV thing I'm experiencing and I shouldn't be concerned due to the other results I've noticed? Thanks!
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StillAnonymous

I still get them and I've been doing HRT for more than a year.  My estradiol and testosterone levels are well into the female ranges and I'm pretty sure I "male fail."



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KayXo

Quote from: DuchessBianca on December 18, 2016, 10:03:26 AM
My estradiol levels last time I was checked are perfectly in female range

Female range is anywhere from 20-650 pg/ml, overlaps with male range, 10-30.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Ms Grace

My understanding is that testosterone is likely to be highest first thing in the morning. However the so-called "Morning Glory" is mostly caused by a full bladder when you are sleeping on your back as it presses on the penile circulation and prevents blood from leaving (essentially the mechanics of an erection). Just roll on your side to help take it down a notch or three.
Grace
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RobynD

Many report that they completely dissipate over time, for some they do not. My own experience is that they no longer occur - except for very occasionally in the middle of the night due to dreaming etc.


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.Christy

i got them from time to time even on a super high dose of spiro. however, when i added prometrium i noticed that it stopped them completely. if you arent on bio identical progesterone i would suggest you have a talk with your doc to get it added into your regimen. it may help you like it did for me.
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DuchessBianca

Thank you all very much for the replies! Seem's like I'm not the only one and I guess I shouldn't worry too much as pretty much every instance of it happening is when I have a full bladder and need to pee. Guess I'm just at the part where I'm growing impatient/paranoid at 7 months that things aren't changing or my T is spiking at times and counteracting stuff haha

I'd certainly like to add progesterone eventually but think I'll wait until my second year to do so to just let the pills I'm already on settle in as I already take a million a day and developed mild hypothyroidism due to estrogen being the new queen in town and bullying all the other hormones in my body, not sure she's ready to handle a new girl in town haha
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KayXo

Quote from: DuchessBianca on December 19, 2016, 10:14:44 AM
I'd certainly like to add progesterone eventually but think I'll wait until my second year to do so to just let the pills I'm already on settle in as I already take a million a day and developed mild hypothyroidism due to estrogen being the new queen in town and bullying all the other hormones in my body, not sure she's ready to handle a new girl in town haha

Are you certain it was estrogen that led to mild hypothyroidism and not something else?
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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DuchessBianca

Quote from: KayXo on December 19, 2016, 10:32:53 AM
Are you certain it was estrogen that led to mild hypothyroidism and not something else?

I honestly can't be certain but it was more of a tongue in cheek joke with maybe a hint of truth. I just know pre HRT my TSH/FT4 at 243 pounds was healthy at 2.45 mi/Ul and now at the time of the test 6.5 months, down over 60 pounds through hard work/exercize/diet later that pretty much doubled + to 5.44 mi/Ul and is now outside the normal range of 0.40-4.50 causing me mild hypothyroidism. I've had 3 sets of blood work, before hrt, 2.5 months during and 6.5 months and pretty much everything has been perfect/consistent, testosterone was last tested in August and not the last test and that was well within female range at 34ng/ml, Estrogen is raised, outside of a slightly elevated prolactin level (for male range) thyroid is the only thing to flag out of range since being on HRT, all that weight loss pretty much cured all the other little things that were slightly elevated like liver and such due to access weight. The only thing I could guess is the cause is the estrogen as I read that it's possible for it to compete with thyroid hormone. The only symptoms I've ever felt was those associated with hypothyroidism so it's really the only thing I can guess as the cause for it due to everything else seeming to be perfectly how it should.
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cej

I don't get them. I do take progesterone and my sex drive is functional without being annoying. Recommend trying progesterone for awhile, you might like the mental effects and I don't think there's any medical reason to wait.
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LShipley

Interesting.. I'm just on spiro and estrogen and they had completely stopped after the first month for me. My "self time" methods chnaged too though. One of my favorite changes has been being aroused without having anything to show for it.  >:-)
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KayXo

Quote from: DuchessBianca on December 19, 2016, 12:53:07 PM
I honestly can't be certain but it was more of a tongue in cheek joke with maybe a hint of truth. I just know pre HRT my TSH/FT4 at 243 pounds was healthy at 2.45 mi/Ul and now at the time of the test 6.5 months, down over 60 pounds through hard work/exercize/diet later that pretty much doubled + to 5.44 mi/Ul and is now outside the normal range of 0.40-4.50 causing me mild hypothyroidism. I've had 3 sets of blood work, before hrt, 2.5 months during and 6.5 months and pretty much everything has been perfect/consistent, testosterone was last tested in August and not the last test and that was well within female range at 34ng/ml, Estrogen is raised, outside of a slightly elevated prolactin level (for male range) thyroid is the only thing to flag out of range since being on HRT, all that weight loss pretty much cured all the other little things that were slightly elevated like liver and such due to access weight. The only thing I could guess is the cause is the estrogen as I read that it's possible for it to compete with thyroid hormone. The only symptoms I've ever felt was those associated with hypothyroidism so it's really the only thing I can guess as the cause for it due to everything else seeming to be perfectly how it should.

Indian J Endocrinol Metab. 2013 Nov-Dec; 17(6): 996–1004.

"High levels of estrogen increase the binding proteins and the bound form of thyroid hormone increases. There is almost 50% physiological increase in total thyroxine (T4) although the free form remains unchanged.[10]"

Eur J Endocrinol. 2006 Jul;155(1):11-6.

"Estrogen and androgen administration modulate the pituitary-thyroid axis through alterations in thyroid hormone-binding globulin (TBG) metabolism, but the effects of sex steroids on extrathyroidal thyroxine (T4) to triiodothyronine (T3) conversion in humans are unknown."

"We studied 36 male-to-female and 14 female-to-male euthyroid transsexuals at baseline and after 4 months of hormonal treatment. Male-to-female transsexuals were treated with cyproterone acetate (CA) (...) alone (n = 10) or in combination with either oral ethinyl estradiol (or-EE) (...) (n = 14) or transdermal 17beta-estradiol (td-E) (...) twice a week (n = 12)."

"Or-EE increased TBG (100 +/- 12%, P < .001) and testosterone decreased TBG (-14 +/- 4%, P = 0.01), but free T4 did not change. Td-E and CA did not affect TBG concentrations. TSH was not different between groups at baseline or after treatment. CA decreased T3/T4 ratios (-9 +/- 3%, P = 0.04), suggesting that T4 to T3 conversion was lower."

"Oral but not transdermal estradiol increases TBG, whereas testosterone lowers TBG. Testosterone increases T3/T4 ratios. Estradiol does not affect T3/T4 ratios, irrespective of the route of administration."


I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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judithlynn

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