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Started by Mattify, January 16, 2017, 02:52:03 PM

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Mattify

Hey all,

I've basically decided that the best thing to go about this is to obviously outreach to others about it, but let's start at at a sensible spot.

I am a male who for years now has had thoughts in regards to being mtf. I enjoy the feeling of women's clothes, shave my body on occasion and recently have been looking into make-up and what I guess would be considered as feminine body piercings. I've also got some underwear that I wear alongside a gaffe I've made.

Now I mean that I've had these thoughts for about 10-8 years and they seem to come and go, but I don't think I understand the drive. Is it that I'm transgender? Is it a good idea to go get diagnosed and transition? There are many social factors that would also go against my transitioning (should it be coming to that) and I think there is a bigger reason as to why I think I shouldn't transition.

I am fascinated by the female body. I don't think there is such a thing as a woman who isn't beautiful. I think though that this is all down to my male hormones and, though it still stands my belief that there is no such thing as a woman who isn't beautiful, I think my hormones are getting confused and making me think that "I could be that beautiful" "that could be me" "I could always self medicate and not tell anyone". The second I (dare I say) "relieve myself", I start questioning why I ever had such thoughts. Suddenly I think about how "I shouldn't have shaved my body" "Why are you even thinking of a belly ring" "Good for those mtf women, but that's not you".
I essentially feel that I'm wanting these things to derive a sexual pleasure, and I'm scared that that's all it would ever be. If I started transition, I'd probably "relieve myself" a few times then quit in disgust, only to pick it up a few days later. Should I ever transition, then would it be everything I think it would be? I doubt it.

I'm just trying to figure out the best way to go about all of this. I've always been against labels and been adamant that I just need to be me and not care what others think. If I want a belly button piercing, then damn everyone else, right?

It's not like I have an overly masculine body or a feminine one. I actually take a lot of pride in that I can grow facial hair. That leads onto another point: It seems so much harder to transition mtf. I think a somewhat crushing thing that would stop me transitioning is that though ftm may still be able to achieve pregnancy, I as a mtf would never be fertile. I also feel that as the female body is essentially the base of what becomes a man though testosterone, my body at my age is already too far gone from completing puberty. I wouldn't ever be able to achieve the body I would want to see myself having, let alone a 100% functioning one.

I'm filled with a lot of doubt and negativity and I don't know if transitioning is the thing for me. I'm just trying to figure myself out. If you guys hit this place up and tell me that I probably should transition, then I don't know, maybe, who knows. Let's say that I'm questioning.

Thanks for your patience and please don't hate :P
If I've got my facts wrong, please correct them.

Mattify
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KathyLauren

Welcome, Mattify.  Cis people seldom wonder about their gender, so there is a good chance that you are somewhere on the transgender spectrum.

Does that mean you should transition?  I doubt if you will find anyone here who will tell you yes or no.  About the only "should" is that, if you have doubts about your gender, you should talk to a gender therapist.  It is their job to help you clarify your thinking on the subject so that you can make your own decisions on how to proceed.
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Tessa James

Welcome aboard Mattify.  You have asked one of the most popular questions I know of here and for good reasons.  Many people struggle with a sense of direction and making decisions even if they accept being transgender.  This is a great place to explore and you are very likely to hear about all kinds of opinions.  Careful what you ask for, opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one but how many do you want to see? ;D ;D ;D  Just kidding, I trust you can find some head scratching and thoughtful ideas will follow.....
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Selena

I'll start off by saying I'm no doctor and am fairly new to the forums as well as at the very beginning of my own transition so I'm no where near expert on this. It would be best if you contacted a therapist since they will likely know more about it than we will.  Eilther way, here's my take on it, sorry in advance if this doesn't come off right.

It doesn't sound like "transgender" in the classical sense of transitioning into the opposite role. It sounds like somewhere between crossdresser and genderfluid. There is nothing wrong with either of those, do what makes you happy, but it seems like you like to try on other roles depending on how you feel. For some people they have both strong feminine and Masculine  tendiencies,  but express them at different times. For those people, temporary measures such as going in drag work well to remedy their dysphoria. This is distinctive from someone who feels strongly in one way or another. Gender is a spectrum and where you fall on it usually has very little to do with hormones.

Rather than full transition, it may be right for you to try low levels of hrt.  It won't feminize you, but could calm the self doubt,  then go from there. Only you can decide where it the right stopping point. Some people never transition, but acceptance of who they are becomes enough.

As far as being too old, everyone thinks they should have started sooner. I'm 26 and would have like to have started my transition 27 years ago. Its never to late to be happy.

I wish you all the best in your journey.

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Jacqueline

Mattify,

Welcome to the site.

Many great questions. I think many of us who did not realize right off what was up with us have gone through many of the same thoughts you have.

I believe you have a couple of good suggestions here, already. The biggest one I would point to is starting therapy. The confusion does not help. Going to a therapist may well clarify some things to you. I may take a few visits but self exploration in the direction of clarity is worth it.

HRT might be the right direction but that would be up to you after working through some of this with the therapist. I would also warn that everyone's body reacts differently. A low level of HRT over a very short time would probably not change your body in ways that could not be reversed. However, there are some who started it thinking it would take a long time and in 4 months started having breasts show.

Don't worry about age right now. You will see many on here talking about wishing they could have started before. You can almost bet that a 13 year old trans girl wishes she could have started 6-10 years ago. I am 52, started HRT a little over a year ago and have had great results. I do not pass yet. I don't look like Janet Mock or a model. However, I did start breast growth about 2-3 months in. I have much smoother skin. My mind is much more clear and I am able to see that there can be light in one's life.

Maybe too much info for right off. Take a deep breath. Think about what the pros and cons are and be honest with yourself and your therapist. It is not an easy road to take. However, it becomes the right one, it is worth it.

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Veda

Well, this should come as some relief, (I'm so sorry, I really really couldn't help it  ;D)

The regret feeling you have after 'relief' could be because your sex drive isn't as active and conditioning kicks in again.

I don't think you should feel bad about shaving or piercing even if you aren't transgender, it's just a way of expressing yourself.

I agree with Kathy Lauren, questioning is a sign you should examine your feelings some more.

Again, sorry for the lead-in, hope you know it was meant to be all in fun. ;)
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DawnOday

Transitioning even just chemically, is saving my life. I had given up. Twenty five years of heart disease. Ten years without a job. I now have a desire to meet people when all I've really wanted to do is avoid them. It is giving me a new outlook and I have never felt more self control. I never thought I could feel so alive. So for me God is finally fulfilling my prayers. I wish he wasn't such a joker and waited until I was 65 years old.
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Mattify

Thanks everyone.

I think I've gained some peace of mind from all of your responses. I'll check out tomorrow for some therapists to see what I can talk to them about. Even if it's not about transitioning or gender issues, it could still be a good idea regardless.

All the same, I may stick around yet.
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CarlyMcx

Being attracted to or loving women does not mean that you are not transgender.  I used that rationale as a basis for denial about my true gender for many many years, until I learned that attraction operates independently of gender.

I started hormone therapy eight months ago at the age of 53, and now for the first time since male puberty, I am actually happy in my own body.

I would also point out that, even though I now have the blood estrogen levels of a teenage girl, I am still attracted to women.  Your mileage may vary on this one.  I did find that eliminating the testosterone from my body did eliminate a lot of the lust I felt whenever I saw a woman dressed sexy -- or rather, got rid of that mix of lust and envy, and left only the envy, and the wish that I had done this at a far younger age. 

On the upside, this summer I get to be the cutie in the short shorts, instead of lusting after her and longing to be her.

FWIW, you sound like me fifteen years ago, or ten years ago, or seven years ago, especially the "Good for those mtf women but that's not you."

Eventually panic attacks got the better of me.  All of them were based on a fear of dying without ever getting to live as my true self.  This became something I absolutely had to do, whereas when I was younger, I regarded it as a choice.  But what I was really doing was placating the female part of myself by putting things off, lying to myself, making promises to her that "someday it will happen, right now we have to have a wife, family, kids, career, live as a guy."

But eventually after nearly ten years of panic attacks, I had to realize, there was no guy.  She was me, I was her, and being that guy was slowly killing me.

It is up to you how you live your life.  And no one says you have to transition.  You can shave body hair, get piercings, possibly even get breast implants and facial feminization surgery if you want to, without a hormonal transition.

But one thing about the hormones:  They made me a nicer person.  I'm no longer grumpy and irritable, and able to laugh at myself instead of cursing in frustration when I have a small mishap.  I'm more patient, I'm a better listener, and I have heightened analytical faculties.

One final bit of advice:  If you are younger and not yet married, (and are thinking about getting married) sort out the gender thing first.  The worst regrets I have heard from older mtf transfolk have always been that they deceived and defrauded their ex wives by concealing the deepest, truest part of themselves from the women that they loved and married.  Love demands honesty, both with yourself and others.
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Denise

Quote from: CarlyMcx on January 16, 2017, 04:37:14 PM
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I agree with everything Carly wrote.

I just turned 55 started Hormones (started, stopped, almost ruined my life, started, FEEL GREAT NOW) last year.  I am a new person.  Like Carly I was grumpy, moody, basically a pain in the back-side and now, I have people asking why I'm in such a good mood all the time.  ALL THE TIME.

Like others here I thought about my gender (male -> female) more and more to the point I couldn't concentrate on anything else.  Seeing a counselor then a Gender Therapist then an MD about all of this to confirm my suspicions of being transgender.  They all helped me to figure it out and they are helping me to "get my crap together, mentally" while I transition.

For me I was also becoming addicted to self-gratification and wondered if I would regret transition as it "could just be a sexual fantasy."  This may sound strange, but I came out to my sister first on October 17th 2015.  I have not read nor looked at any porn since that day.  I have no interest any more.  I can't explain it, I'm happy about it.  Self-gratification no longer revolves around this topic as it once did.

Transitioning is like planting a tree.  The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago.  The second best time is right now.

Good luck and as every post above me states - Therapy is your best move now and if you can find a gender therapist, all the better.

- Dee

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MissGendered

Hi Mattify!

Wow, the gals before me really did a bang up job covering all the right points, yay!

The only thing I would add, other than to re-inforce the idea that a gender therapist is the way to go, is that if you want kids and also need to transition, you can freeze your sperm at a sperm bank for later use in conceiving children, so that is kind of a non-issue in reality..

Hope this helps, and yeah, I used to have very highly sexualized and self-gratifying experiences with female ideations before I got my stuff sorted out, too. That did not mean I was just playing around with erotic feelings, so yeah, we never know sometimes why we are doing what we do, unless we dig into this stuff with a qualified gender therapist.

Good luck, and check back in and tell us what happens at therapy, it takes a village, ya know?

MissyG
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JessicaSondelli

Ok, I try to be rather quick: you don't sound like you are 95 and lying on your death bed so it's definitely not too late to start doing whatever you think is the right thing in order to live an authentic life.

There are girls here who started in their 70's. I'm an old bitch myself being in my mid forties but I now feel like I'm 25 again. I'm not saying you should transition but you need to find a road to happiness and disregard what other people might think. It's your life and you can only have a fulfilled life if you live it as your true self.

Be strong, be yourself!

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Jessica


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