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Can't find my clit!

Started by AlexisB, February 04, 2017, 08:53:40 AM

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MissGendered

Quote from: KayXo on February 04, 2017, 07:48:02 PM
Not rude in the least bit. I don't easily get offended. ;) Yes, I do get engorged to the point where it's very painful and I feel like my entire vulva is going to explode. It becomes very swollen from the inside. It's not my clit that gets engorged but rather the whole area underneath the mons pubis, probably because of the remaining erectile tissue underneath that was left there by the surgeon.

You are a Brassard girl, right? Yeah, but from ten years before my surgery, so his approach may have evolved since then. My clit swells up like a little knob when I am aroused, and yes, I do have some other erectile tissues in other areas, deeper down, but there is no mistaking when my clitoris is happy, lol. It is about the size of a large cherry, and roundish, and very pronounced.

I am also one that likes penetration as a primary stimulation, which sets me up for explosion when I touch my swollen cherry bomb, though I can get there without both, either way. I am wondering also if because your T has been very low, if perhaps there hasn't been a bit of clitoral atrophy? I know that cis women that use even a small amount of T to boost their athletic ability sometimes experience marked clitoral growth. And, of course, my intersex status is due to in utero progestin exposure, and the little bit of T that my ovaries manufactured upon being morphed into ovatestes was enough to cause me continuous 'penile' growth through out my entire life. When the last T treatments ended at 15, I still had less than 3" of length, decades later, pre-HRT, I had over 8". That tissue, is very sensitive to T, is what I am saying, lol..

More growth means better blood flow, and better innervation.

I don't have an answer, but I am glad you are having pleasure and orgasms, but I would bet, just my opinion, that boosting your T would help rather than hurt the situation. But, as always, consult your doctor, lol.. ;-)

Missy
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Sharon Anne McC

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Congrats all around!

Yes, it is important to go slow during your early post-op.  Heed your surgeon's and doctor's experienced advice.

Explore at your leisure, er pleasure, er both.

Keep current with your dilation schedule.  Keep every bit of it active right to depth.  You might have found quite a Big 'O' at depth.

Take deep breaths and relax. 

Find your best position.

Practise your muscles.  Some will be loose, some moderate, some tight.  Learn to flow in and flow out and tense and release.  Wow!!!

Practise sensing your feelings.  You may have sensations right from the opening all the way to your depth.  Focus on them.  Wow!!!

Some friends report using a vibrator touching your appliance. Others rotate.  Others move in and out.

Explore  what works for you.

Use what amount of lube works best for you.  No need to dribble with too much, no need to hurt with too little.

You will know the difference between pleasure, exploratory 'pain', and actual harmfull pain.  Keep your medical team advised of everything - good, bad, indifferent - it will be for your benefit and for your sisters who follow you.

What is within your comfort zone?  Find a mentor.  You be a mentor.  This is what cis-females do when they start at their slumber parties.

Different clinics use different appliances; allow me to describe in the Chettawut Clinic - #0 is smallest, #5 is largest.  By your sixth month, #0 should be way easy and #4 may still be tight.  By your first anniversary, they should all be doing well,  By your second anniversary your 'duty' should be down to maintenance once or twice each week.

Sadly, some report that they perceive their 'duty' as an imposition and allow themselves to lose their gains.  Keep yourself occupied with ideas and make it a pleasure that it really is.

If you quit and you want to get it back, then resume from your smallest device and work your way back according to your surgeon's original schedule.  It is possible to restore your anatomy unless too many years have elapsed.  Maybe reading this thread will encourage those to re-start who dropt out for a few years or more.

Sometimes you'll just be going about your own activities and then it will hit - that feeling down there.  Wowee!!  But this time it is your secret that no one else knows because there is no evidence of it to the outside world but your nice big smile and glow.

Surgery for we old folks was far different than available today.  If your original surgery was more than a few years ago, then enquire of your favourite surgeon whether revision is good for you.  You may be quite enthused with an up-grade to today's standard.

Yes, you paid good money for your correct equipment.  It is all yours.  Make the most of your investment.

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1956:  Birth (AMAB)
1974-1985:  Transition (core transition:  1977-1985)
1977:  Enrolled in Stanford University Medical Center's 'Gender Dysphoria Program'
1978:  First transition medical appointment
1978:  Corresponded with Janus Information Facility (Galveston)
1978:  Changed my SSA file to Sharon / female
1979:  First psychological evaluation - passed
1979:  Began ERT (Norinyl, DES, Premarin, estradiol, progesterone)
1980:  Arizona affirmed me legally as Sharon / female
1980:  MVD changed my licence to Sharon / female
1980:  First bank account as Sharon / female
1982:  Inter-sex exploratory:  diagnosed Inter-sex (genetically female)
1983:  Inter-sex corrective surgery
1984:  Full-blown 'male fail' phase
1985:  Transition complete to female full-time forever
2015:  Awakening from self-imposed deep stealth and isolation
2015 - 2016:  Chettawut Clinic - patient companion and revision
Today:  Happy!
Future:  I wanna return to Bangkok with other Thai experience friends

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KayXo

It's confirmed, I have no clitoris. I took pics and showed them to a few people, looked at pics from Suporn's surgery where the clitoris can be clearly seen. Some of the skin that is part of my clitoral hood is also blackish, and inside my labia, just under the hood, there are a few red spots. Too bad I can't post any pics. :( It's very difficult to put into words.

I'm a Brassard girl, yes. From 2005.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Dena

While it's possible, I suspect there may still be a clit. Until a year ago, I thought I didn't have one either but then I found a surgical report two years after mine that explained what happened. The glans was relocated to the correct location and the penis skin was stretched over it. There is nothing visible but if I am excited, I can feel it swell as it did before surgery. Because of the proximity, I though it was the prostate but now I know where to look, I can tell the difference. A surgical report might be available but I suspect if your procedure deviated from the standard procedure, you would have been told.
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MissGendered

Quote from: KayXo on February 05, 2017, 12:25:53 PM
It's confirmed, I have no clitoris. I took pics and showed them to a few people, looked at pics from Suporn's surgery where the clitoris can be clearly seen. Some of the skin that is part of my clitoral hood is also blackish, and inside my labia, just under the hood, there are a few red spots. Too bad I can't post any pics. :( It's very difficult to put into words.

I'm a Brassard girl, yes. From 2005.

Hun,

I hope you are mistaken, but I would urge you to contact Dr. Brassard and send him the pictures to review. I have no idea what is actually your situation, but the person that would know, is, of course, your surgeon.

((HUGS))

Missy
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KayXo

I think I will contact him, see what he says.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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tgirlamg

Quote from: KayXo on February 05, 2017, 12:25:53 PM
It's confirmed, I have no clitoris. I took pics and showed them to a few people, looked at pics from Suporn's surgery where the clitoris can be clearly seen. Some of the skin that is part of my clitoral hood is also blackish, and inside my labia, just under the hood, there are a few red spots. Too bad I can't post any pics. :( It's very difficult to put into words.

I'm a Brassard girl, yes. From 2005.

Hi Kay!!!...

Dr Bowers has done a lot of clitoral reconstruction for cis women who were victims of genital mutilation practices as well as revision of other surgeons GRS surgeries... She might be a good resource if you are thinking of pursuing things....

I also want to tell you that I have so much respect for you, Dena and the other girls around here that made all this stuff happen before all the current information and resources we have now..  Things have changed so much in a short time that even 2005 was like a much different era...  You are all trailblazers in my eyes who made it easier for those behind you and I always seek to pay that forward by doing all I can to make things better for those who follow me...

Onward we go...

Ashley :)



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Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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KayXo

Thanks Ashley. First thing's first. I'll go see Dr. B, see what he says and then decide what happens next. I live close by and he did my surgery so would rather have things sorted out by him than anyone else unless, for some reason, it's not possible.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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KayXo

Ok. I think I know what's going on and can explain to you now. My clitoris is there but it's not protruding like it should. Instead, it is flat and lies underneath the labia, just below the clitoral hood. If I push the labia downwards so that the clitoris comes forward and protrudes, then fine and that's exactly how I figured out this was the clitoris.

Hoping my explanation was clear...maybe with some T, it will protrude, as Dena suggested.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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MissGendered

Quote from: KayXo on February 05, 2017, 03:25:14 PM
Ok. I think I know what's going on and can explain to you now. My clitoris is there but it's not protruding like it should. Instead, it is flat and lies underneath the labia, just below the clitoral hood. If I push the labia downwards so that the clitoris comes forward and protrudes, then fine and that's exactly how I figured out this was the clitoris.

Hoping my explanation was clear...maybe with some T, it will protrude, as Dena suggested.

Kay,

The dark spots you mentioned still concern me. Since Brassard is close by, I would still urge you to have him take a closer look. He is such a sweet man, I would bet that he would make you feel much better with accurate feedback and explanations and perhaps options to improve your overall satisfaction with your lady parts in general.

More info tends to be better than less, in my experience!

Missy
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MissGendered

I wonder how Alexis is doing with her dilations and, ummm, explorations?

So how goes it, sweetheart, are you doing okay?

Missy
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apsharas

I guess I was lucky that the day packing came out the nurse asked me if I wanted to see my clitoris and she moved the labia minora a bit. 5 seconds later I was like "Ok, ok, you can close it now". Too sensitive to even the air, and I have to say it was kinda small / proportionate. But I now I have one.

I haven't looked at it since then. I'm taking seriously the warning of the surgeon to not spread / mess with the labia minora until 3 months post-op. So I hope I will be able to find it again by then. But well, even cis clits can't be a bit hard to find. The last girl I was with had to point me to where it was.
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JeanetteLW

  It's in there!!!  Really it is.

Sorry I couldn't help myself.

  Jeanette
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