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Do vaginas have "door" tissue over them?

Started by Ruth Ruthless, May 16, 2017, 06:19:13 AM

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Ruth Ruthless

I'm 7 weeks post op and have been sending pictures regularly to my physician to make sure it is all okay every time something new pops up in healing and he keeps saying it is okay but it's been over a week he hasn't answered my last emails and my next consult with him is in June 1st.

A flap of pink tissue started appearing, perhaps it was hidden due to being swollen before... and it is hanging over the vagina as a continuation of the skin color tissue surrounding the urethra.

At first it looked like two small flaps and one of them hanging to the left had a hole and I thought maybe the hole is a wound.

During the week the flap kept going down more and more covering more of the vagina and it seemed more and more possible that the hole is actually a continuation of the opening for the urethra... but it's not clear if that's the case, because the flap itself is currently symmetrical with the skin surrounding the urethra, but the hole hanging on the left side of the flap is... well, to the left. So if the hole would eventually become symmetrical with the urethra it looks the flap wouldn't, unless there is more hidden "flap" tissue to the left.

In general, I don't remember ever noticing on cis women such a "flap", like a door hanging from the top of the vagina.

When I dilate the "door" is just pushed against the top of the vagina.

Can anyone let me know if this "door" is supposed to be there and if this hole is normal and indeed a continuation of the tissue surrounding the urethra? I'm anxious to wait until my consult and the doctor stopped answering my emails because I guess he is busy and decided I'm a hypochondriac.

I'm also 50 days post op and it still hurts to stand up or be dressed in the area and was told that should have passed after 4-6 weeks. Am I probably going to have to wait 3 months post op for that to happen?
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AnonyMs

It quite common to hear of women having revisions to tidy things up. As long as it's something extra and not something missing it should be easy to fix.
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Ruth Ruthless

So it's not supposed to be there? It actually looks pretty nice. Is it possible it will be able to just stay there without causing trouble?
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EmmaLoo


It's a little tough to tell from your description, but unless it's hindering you from doing something just let it go and be patient. This is a long recovery and what you see now is a far cry from what you will see 3 and 6 months from now. I'm seven weeks post myself, and I think this idea that you need 4 to 6 weeks to "recover" from this surgery is a disservice to everyone who has it.

Seriously, what do people mean when they talk about "recovery"? Returning to work, driving a car, not bleeding, having enough energy to engage in their daily routine, being pain-free? The description is far too vague to have any applicable meaning for people who are in that situation. Plus, age, fitness, health status, smoking etc. play a huge role in your bodies ability to heal. My surgeon's post-surgery documentation says that you can't return to exercising for 10 weeks. She didn't set that limitation for the fun of it.

I totally understand where you are coming from and it doesn't help that we have all this time on our hands to sit around and watching the clock and every little detail of our surgery wondering if it's going to look presentable. I tell you, I've been through a lot of surgery before so I knew the routine and what to expect. For people who haven't had the experience of major surgery before this could easily feel overwhelming, depressing and even scary.

Don't do this alone people!

Here's another thing related to the communication issue. I can understand if the Dr doesn't respond to all of the emails personally because they probably do a lot of different types of surgery and there are a lot of other patients to deal with. Nevertheless, as far as I'm concerned, it's imperative that the surgeon has a strong patient care and follow-up team or person that can accommodate your questions quickly. The fact that you've heard nothing back isn't a reflection on you, it's poor patient care from them.

The main thing you want to watch out for are signs of infection. As long as that's not an issue, everything else can be fixed with time or a nip-tuck later.



Seriously, I'm just winging it like everyone else. Sometimes it works, other times -- not so much. HRT 2003 - FFS|Orch 2005 - GCS 2017 - No Regrets EVER!
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AnonyMs

Quote from: Ruth Ruthless on May 16, 2017, 07:51:39 AM
So it's not supposed to be there? It actually looks pretty nice. Is it possible it will be able to just stay there without causing trouble?

I didn't really understand your description, but I don't think it matters. If you like it and there's no problems then don't worry about it.
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Ruth Ruthless

A friend says it might be the inner lips... but then why are they hanging off the top of the vagina instead of being attached to all sides? Or maybe I'm just seeing them pop from the top and there is more to come eventually from the sides and bottom?
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EmmaLoo

It could be overhang from your urethra opening. It's difficult to say from you description. Either way, its nothing that cant be fixed.

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Ruth Ruthless

Quote from: EmmaLoo on May 16, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
It could be overhang from your urethra opening. It's difficult to say from you description. Either way, its nothing that cant be fixed.

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That's what it looks it might be to me.
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EmmaLoo

If that is the case it will probably retract quite a bit as the swelling decreases and things heal. Even if it remains it's an easy fix.

Dont fret it.



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Barb99

Don't worry to much about how it looks until at least 6 months post op. It may even change some after that.

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audreytn

Quote from: Ruth Ruthless on May 16, 2017, 03:00:36 PM
A friend says it might be the inner lips... but then why are they hanging off the top of the vagina instead of being attached to all sides? Or maybe I'm just seeing them pop from the top and there is more to come eventually from the sides and bottom?

sounds like the clitoral hood from what you describe.
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Ruth Ruthless

No, it's way below that: below the urethra opening and attached to the top of the vagina, seems to be a continuation of the urethra opening so my guess is it can be either that or vagina inner lips still swollen or failed attempt at making vagina inner lips. The clitoris is just covered by white stuff.
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Ruth Ruthless

There is a bit which looks very nice which seems to help the urethra opening look visually connected seemlessly to the vagina in a beautiful way and it kind of opens up and seems logical it would be there the more it goes from the left side to the center... only it's weird that it doesn't open up completely and has a bit of tissue keeping a part of it closed. I guess it is way harder to explain with words than to show pictures but I don't know if that's a good idea for my privacy or okay by the terms of the site.
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mm

I know it is hard to explain when you don't have a picture.  sounds like you need to have a talk with your dr when you see him next.  After the swelling goes down more you can have a much better idea how everything is healing and you will look in the end.
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audreytn

Quote from: Ruth Ruthless on May 18, 2017, 08:21:48 AM
No, it's way below that: below the urethra opening and attached to the top of the vagina, seems to be a continuation of the urethra opening so my guess is it can be either that or vagina inner lips still swollen or failed attempt at making vagina inner lips. The clitoris is just covered by white stuff.

yep it's the clitoral hood.  I know it sounds weird, but the clitoris ans urethral opening will shrink and move down to that little flap.  I dont understand it either, but I have the same thing.

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Ruth Ruthless

Wait a minute... Time out... As far as I know, clitoris above, urethral opening in the middle, vagina at the bottom... That's what I have. How can I have a clitoral hood between my urethral opening and my vagina? How can my clitoris move down there between the vagina and urethral opening? As far as I know this order isn't supposed to change. Are you saying this stuff I have now between my urethral opening hanging at the top of my vagina will somehow move up to my clitoris or that my clitoris will move down to be between my urethra and vagina?

Sorry if I sound a bit aggressive. I'm just trying to figure this out.
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audreytn

Well, we've had the same surgery and I circled mine in a pic and sent it over and asked Dr. Rumer's staff and thats what I was told.  How it moves I dont know.

Go to google images and look at a few natural women's vaginas and compare them to yours, and you'll start to see what I'm talking about. 

My mind cant wrap itself around the concept either, but I'll trust my doc and nurses know what they are talking about.
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Ruth Ruthless

Perhaps you mean down in a different dimension than what I am considering up and down?

Like I'm talking up and down from clitoris to vagina but you might be considering the direction of my belly and intestines up and my crotch down? So the clitoral hood makes its way down and up to the clitoris?

If so... does that mean it will leave a hole where it is currently protruding to my vagina?
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audreytn

It all kinda shrinks and merges together and gets itself right as the healing progresses.  Dont ask me, I am not a surgeon.
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Ruth Ruthless

Well, it does look like what I would expect a clitoral hood to look like... except, it's blocking the way into my vagina. o.O
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