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Got kicked out of another transgroup, now I'm so distraught

Started by CaptFido87, July 05, 2017, 12:08:48 AM

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CaptFido87

Hey Folks,

So like the title of the topic says, I accidentally got myself banned from a Facebook transgender support group. I have been so incredibly distraught from it, that its been hard to keep the emotions and tears back. I just really need some friendly support right now.

So I got kicked out for "Gatekeeping", whatever the heck that means. All because I made a remark on a friends post about poly relationships. My friend was worried that their fiance has been paying more attention to this other woman in the relationship. My friend recently came out saying they wish to become a male (FtM). I expressed my very real concerns and thoughts about it. People got upset that I said it was "natural human nature" for the fiance to be attracted to this other woman. Its unfortunately true with a lot of cis people though. I've personally tried an open relationship and It caused me so much grief to see my girl with another guy, even though I said it was alright. It felt like I literally got stabbed in the back. That was the feeling of pain. I tried explaining that to these other people and they got super offended. 15 minutes later I got a message from an admin saying I was banned. At this point I was super angry and responded back with a very nasty remark.

A few seconds later I literally started crying, in front of my friends. Luckily I had some sun glasses on to hide my face. I had just realized what happened and I was now distraught. I needed that support group badly. I'm in the beginning stages of starting hormones and want all of the support and help I can find. Now I've lost a big chunk of that. I know there's still this awesome support website, but the other one was a lot more convenient and easier to access. I literally cried a good 5 or 6 times on Saturday when this happened. I had to keep removing myself from company at this party, I was at, to feel a little better. It got to the point where I was so mad and upset that I started slapping myself in the face to "snap" my self out of it so I could be presentable at this party. I haven't honestly cried this hard and emotionally since about a year ago, when I accidentally came out to my parents and they yelled at me. These last few days have been nearly as emotional as the first day, except I can keep the tears back now.

Anyways I'm really looking for some people to cheer me up. It's been so incredibly hard for me lately between work, family, and friends. Everything has just been getting me so down lately. Not to mention my therapist keeps canceling our appointments for what I would call "lousy excuses". I would drop her, but I've already explained so much to her, that I feel I would be wasting my time to go to other therapists. Luckily she's been nice about the missed appointments and I haven't had to pay for therapy in the last 2 months. But it's still another thing severely stressing me out. I just need like a virtual hug, through the computer to tell me everything is going to be alright.
Hi I'm Marty. I'm a MTF Transgender who wants nothing more than to finally let Samantha (Sammi) come out and play.


As of: 03/07/2015
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MissKairi

Facebook...nuff said.
Full of frauds and keyboard warriors.

Get that upper lip up and your chin!
We are better than that
Let's see where this journey takes me.
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Kendra

I am sorry to hear what happened.  I don't understand how this would have any connection to gatekeeping... I thought that term was for restricting access to legal paperwork and clinical health care.

Facebook just three years ago expanded their user profile gender options beyond the antiquated choice of male or female.  The reason for that delay: Facebook is one of the top sites to sell personal information about you to other companies, and the targeted advertising they sell is based on your declared gender.  Something to consider.

You have friends here.  <Virtual hug sent> 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Artesia

Big giant Hug!

I'm sorry this has happened.  I don't really know what else to say, because Susan's place is the only Transgender place I've used.  I feel more comfortable here, the few others I checked out just didn't seem to be as friendly and inclusive of people.  I hope you can find a new group to hang with.
All the worlds a joke, and the people, merely punchlines

September 13, 2016 HRT start date
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Devlyn

Big hug! Try not to sweat it. I've been banned....from this site. I turned out fine. (Shaddup, all of ya!)   :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
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MeTony

It is easier to access this site with tapatalk. All you need is an app on your phone. The downside is that polls and stuff don't show on Tapatalk. But other than that, it is sweet to be able to access the site as easy as on face book.

You have friends here. I know from experience that facebook groups can be tricky to navigate through. If you say one tiny thing that mods react negatively on, you're thrown out.
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Julia1996

I'm sorry that happened to you but as Kairi said it's Facebook. I know people my age live on Facebook but believe it or not I don't have Facebook. I don't need it or want it. Like Kendra said they totally sell your info. I like having friends but I don't see the point for people all over the earth that you don't know who want to friend you. One of my friends just collects as many FB friends as she can just to say she has whatever number. I'd rather have friends I actually talk to. What would I have in common with a goat farmer in BFE?  Twitter is better anyway.
Julia
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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LizK

Its the internet, worse its Facebook, I belong to a couple of these "Support Groups" I even had a trans site threaten to ban me from their feed how stupid can you be. I see some really heavy handed tactics being used on people by small minded people who are not accountable to anyone for their actions.

Facebook is an echo chamber, think about the advertising you see on your feed....it is directly related to your browsing history...stuff you see is there because the clever algorithms simply feed you back the things you like and not the real world.

We are here and our members care what happens to our members.   
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Natalia

I used to be an active member of various transgender and transfeminist groups on Facebook.

Well...no more of that for me.

I have learned that Facebook discussions are almost always the ideal recipe for unnecessary stress and for unnecessary disphoria triggers... I have often found myself crying because of a lot of people there.

People there are always arguing and no one is open to change their opinions. A transphobic person will still be a transphobic person no matter how many posts you write. Same for the rest of the subjects.

So, I have left Facebook... actually I have it still active only because a lot of sites require you to have a Facebook account to log in and register.

The only place where I can see healthy discussions about various transgender themes is... here at Susan's. This is a sanctuary for us.

I don't talk about anything else than cute cats on other social networks. Trying to change people is like trying to change a rock into a cake.
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SailorMars1994

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on July 05, 2017, 06:10:33 AM
Big hug! Try not to sweat it. I've been banned....from this site. I turned out fine. (Shaddup, all of ya!)   :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn

You got banned?? how were you able to come back??

Hugs-Ashley
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
<3
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SailorMars1994

I wouldnt be too upset. Some people are over senestive. Hell, i supposedly made a ''friend'' here on this site. We chatted for months on end, on facebook. Just this past Sunday however we were having a conversation and i called her a 'basketcase', in what i was trying to get in a poltie enough way of saying your mentaly worn out.. even calling myself one. She got all sensitive but i applogized sincerly and thought it was behind us after she forgave... Only to get a message or rather  a lecture the next day when i was at work about how i am 'toxic' and bad ect. Coming home to read that was a bit out of the normal. At first i felt bad for her feeling this way, then i stopped feeling bad and realized this is totally her own issue. I spent months talking to her, i helped her as much as i could with her issues (and she did the same for me btw) and many good convos. If she really is going to throw that away due to one misunderstanding then that is her issue and she needs to grow thicker skin.

In otherwords, dont stress about it hun <3
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
<3
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Devlyn

Quote from: SailorMars1994 on July 05, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on July 05, 2017, 06:10:33 AM
Big hug! Try not to sweat it. I've been banned....from this site. I turned out fine. (Shaddup, all of ya!)   :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn

You got banned?? how were you able to come back??

Hugs-Ashley

Cautiously.  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn
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kelly_aus

The quality of Facebook groups is extremely variable.. And then there's the established "groupthink" some seem to have where their way is the only right way. One particular one comes to mind, it's a MTF only group about HRT, they have all kinds of posts about HRT and make all sorts of claims that really have no medical backing - because the studies they cite do not actually support their ideas.  I've been banned from a few, mostly for pointing out sheer idiocy.. I also am a member of a couple of others that I haven't managed to get banned from yet. These days, I seem to only exist in the trans world to combat the myths and legends - like "Hormones changed my sexual preference..".
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LizK

Quote from: kelly_aus on July 05, 2017, 06:28:02 PM
The quality of Facebook groups is extremely variable.. And then there's the established "groupthink" some seem to have where their way is the only right way. One particular one comes to mind, it's a MTF only group about HRT, they have all kinds of posts about HRT and make all sorts of claims that really have no medical backing - because the studies they cite do not actually support their ideas.  I've been banned from a few, mostly for pointing out sheer idiocy.. I also am a member of a couple of others that I haven't managed to get banned from yet. These days, I seem to only exist in the trans world to combat the myths and legends - like "Hormones changed my sexual preference..".

If its the one I am thinking of where its HRT MTF exclusive...I Posted a question and the answers I got were odd, I thanked them for the replies and promptly left the group.
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Lady Sarah

Facebook is one of those sites I use cautiously. If someone is not a friend of a friend they cannot even find me. I saw a couple of trans groups there. Nobody ever posts, apparently out of fear of being banned. Perhaps they were the ones doing the "gate keeping". You don't need them if they're going to act like that.
At least this site is supportive, to a certain extent.
started HRT: July 13, 1991
orchi: December 23, 1994
trach shave: November, 1998
married: August 16, 2015
Back surgery: October 20, 2016
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kelly_aus

Quote from: ElizabethK on July 05, 2017, 06:46:55 PM
If its the one I am thinking of where its HRT MTF exclusive...I Posted a question and the answers I got were odd, I thanked them for the replies and promptly left the group.

"Don't use blockers, they are evil."
"Use your sublingual pills rectally."

If those sound familiar, we are on the same page..
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LizK

Quote from: kelly_aus on July 05, 2017, 09:30:01 PM
"Don't use blockers, they are evil."
"Use your sublingual pills rectally."

If those sound familiar, we are on the same page..

You got it...we are on the same page...weird stuff not just factually wrong but odd.
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Dan

Don't give those people the power to make you feel distraught. They are no more valuable than you are. Shake them off your tiara and move on.
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CaptFido87

Thank you all so much.

I really needed to hear the positive words and comments. It does make me feel a lot more accepted here. I'm so glad. Maybe I'll download tap a talk. I've seen other sites using it, so maybe its worth my time.

You are right about the Facebook stuff though unfortunately. I have over a 1000 "friends" on there. Some I've never once spoken too. But I ultimately don't want to delete anyone though. It's kinda of a cool status point, or at least it was 10 years ago... Anyways I do have some trans friends on there who I talk to a lot. Some have been super helpful in pushing me to keep up with all of it and continue becoming transgender. Idk I'll figure it out eventually I guess.

But like I said, you have all put a smile on my face today. please keep the strong positive messages coming :)
Hi I'm Marty. I'm a MTF Transgender who wants nothing more than to finally let Samantha (Sammi) come out and play.


As of: 03/07/2015
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