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Just came out to my 86 year old parents

Started by Kendra, July 16, 2017, 06:55:37 PM

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Kendra

I am 53 and don't have many of the very serious concerns others have when coming out.  But I have hesitated and stalled for other reasons.  On political and many social issues we are complete opposites - especially my father.  My mother is from Japan, her generation has strict social expectations and I am their only child.  She has been proud to introduce me to others as her Number One Son, a term that makes me cringe.

I have thought about this conversation for three years and battled it internally for the past several months.  This has woken me up at night.  As I have gradually realized I need to live life the way I want, I have tossed aside fears of how others might react - with the exception of my parents.  I am very close to my parents.  I do not want to hurt them in any way. 

My gender therapist has asked if I've had this conversation yet.  And my electrologist.  And my speech therapist.  And my hairdresser.  I came close to it but chickened out.  I could use holidays as an excuse - if things go badly is this how they would always want to remember Mother's Day.  And then Father's Day.

A close friend who knows my parents well has consistently recommended: do not transition until they are dead.

My gender therapist recommended I write a letter but I didn't.  A letter might be best for some people and situations but my best accomplishments have not involved a letter - it is when I communicate from my heart, directly, in person to another individual or on stage if it's a crowd.  I am not trying to discourage others from writing a great letter - but I just couldn't. 

My speech therapist had a brutally simple but true observation based on her experience with clients.  This is when you will find out if your parents truly love you.  She has seen a "redneck in a cowboy hat" totally embrace their child coming out as transgender without hesitation.  She has seen people you would expect to understand, just not get it at all.  She has given up trying to predict.  She said just do it and then I will know.

Today I was visiting my parents and thought about people I admire here.  Sara in Wales gaining the courage to walk out of her house in a small village, traveling to a larger town and down a city sidewalk to her first transgender group support meeting as herself.  Laurie from Oregon who had barely gone anywhere as herself, and then after a couple exceptions drove across the entire US and back as herself.  Watching Artesia have this conversation with her parents four months ago with better results than expected, and discovering new things about herself in the process.  I thought about this as I looked in the mirror and knew what I needed to do.

My parents took this information far better than I expected.  I can barely put into words by how much - I am stunned.

My mother initially cried and apologized, and stopped crying when I reminded her a transition in 1971 (when I was eight) had massive social and medical challenges compared to today. 

My mother started to understand when I explained how she was non-conforming with her career as an Engineering Draftsman.  Her business card in the 1970s had a male pronoun.  She used to joke about being called "a guy named Sue" at the office (the only thing remotely masculine about her was her job title). 

My father thinks he might have been left handed but isn't sure, other than memories of having a grade school teacher hit his left hand with a ruler when he was caught writing with it.  10% of people are biologically left handed, but the same countries and societies that repress gender identity somehow have a low percentage of left handed people. 

I made every effort to convince them this isn't a bad thing - it is an opportunity - and they seem to accept that.  I also told them about the recent post from Bobbie which is an eye-opener for me: by doing this, I get to experience life twice.  How many people get to do that? 

I feared today, and I didn't have to. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Devlyn

Big hug! My Dad was long gone, and they had given my Mom three months to live when I came out to my brother and sisters. We decided that since I wasn't going down to see her in person that it wouldn't be worth the risk of telling her. Sure, I missed an opportunity for her to love me for who I am, but if it had gone badly, how could I reconcile tormenting a dying woman?

Proud of you for making such a huge step. :)

Hugs, Devlyn
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Kendra

Under the circumstances I believe you made the best decision available to you.

I rolled the dice and it went well.  I'll admit I had an additional motivation - my first endocrinologist appointment is in a week. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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LizK

Hi Kendra

I am so glad it worked so well with your parents. I am the same age as you and my parents are in their late 70's. So I know how daunting that was for you. Not that it is easy to do at any age I am glad it turned out to be such a great experience. I think many parents of their age find it is hard to understand us.

QuoteI feared today, and I didn't have to.

Great Outcome

Hugs
Liz

Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Artesia

I'm pleased that it went well for you! 
All the worlds a joke, and the people, merely punchlines

September 13, 2016 HRT start date
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Laurie

Wow Kendra,

  What a struggle for you.
  I was spared having to come out to my parents as trans because I did not know it myself until after they both were gone. But I did struggle with shame over my closeted crossdressing. My mom always made a point of telling me how proud she was of me. My Dad never verbally sang my praises but I knew he was proud of how I followed his example by enlisting in the Navy to get the education in a field that would become my career and proud of me when I left the Navy to build on that career and raise a family. I felt the weight of shiny example of a success in their eyes. I could never have told them I was a sissy that donned female attire whenever I could to escape the heavy mantle of that success for it was only when I was dressed that I could let down the facade of my life and feel free.
  As it turned out my mother knew as my ex made sure she knew. My dad may have known also. I did not know this until I came out to my sister that lives with me recently. My mother never talked to me about it and my dad left this world many years before she did.
  In a way I feel I missed out on an opportunity to know just how much they loved me by not being able to talk to them about my being trans. It would have been difficult for me to tell them for sure but I now see that my fear would have been misplaced.
  Coming out to loved ones is hard to do as that fear of rejection is so strong in us. As their children we crave their love and are unwilling to do anything we perceive will jeopardize it. Not coming out to a loved one deprives them of an opportunity to show just how deep their love for us goes.  It's risky, yes, but the rewards can be great. Just doing it is a tremendous relief with the lifting of those unreasonable fears and a reward in and of itself.

  I'm proud of you Kendra and glad the results were better than you feared they were going to be.

Hugs,
   Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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Marcieelizabeth

YAY!  I am so glad it went well.  I as you may know told my wife as well.  I am still hoping it will end us as well as it appears to be going, but I have nat made many changeds yet and that and time will tell!

Love and Hugs,

Marcie
:-*

First memory of cross-dressing - age 8 - 1967
Marcie Since 6-17-17   :D
Out to wife 6-27-17  :D :D
Started HRT 10-13-17  :D :D :D
First time completely me at therapy on 10-31-17 <3
Started Finestrade on 11-1-17 <3
Estradiol and Spiro to therapeutic levels on 12-4-17
Went out totally as Marcie with friends sans beard 3-24-18
Estradiol increased second time 3-27-18
Out to both sisters 2-3-19

...it makes me smile to know its me, fearful about losing the good things in my life, anxious about every single step, doubting my resolve, determined to stop living a lie,  VERY hopeful for the future as myself, Marcie, and I am thankful to have this safe place
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Kendra

Thank you all for the great support, before and after.  Your support means so much to me.

Marcie, huge congratulations on telling your wife.  Your thread mentions your wife had a feeling something was going on.  My mother said the same thing today. 

I wish I could do more to help others but I didn't create a letter.  As today sinks in my advice on what went well is: think about anything the other person has experienced or identifies with, and use that to gently make the point.  Are they left-handed, have they ever had a job title that was historically misgendered, or more direct forms of discrimination.  And whether the best solution to put up with it and just sort of get by, or tackle the issue and turn those lemons into great lemonade.  (Speaking of lemon-shaped objects, I even discussed surgery and they didn't freak out). 

As I re-read this I hope I didn't cause anyone pain by mentioning parents in the age bracket where many (or most) of us have lost our parents due to age, or their health has deteriorated to the point where the risk of additional stress isn't sensible.  We each have many similarities but our situations can be unique. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Cheaney

Just wanted to say that I'm happy it turned out this way for you Kendra! You are so quick to offer support and help others here. I want you to know that you are supported here too which I'm sure you already know.
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Michelle_P

Quote from: Kendra on July 16, 2017, 06:55:37 PM
I feared today, and I didn't have to.

Congratulations, Kendra.  I know how hard this was to do, and the result was far better than your fears.

We all tend to expect the worst from others, but fortunately, almost all who have been close to us see us as individuals, and hold that in mind while we tell them something new about ourselves.  It is very hard for someone who knows and accept us already to turn to rejection with one additional fact.

You made it. Well done, Kendra.
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
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Lisa_K

I am so happy that worked out for you! You will be glad you took the risk and did this.

For me, if my mom didn't get the chance to know me as her daughter, I would have been really, really sad. I started transitioning at 15, HRT at 17 and finished the social part immediately out of high school. She couldn't have been more supportive and well, motherly. She lived long enough to see me have SRS at 22 but sadly, she passed away when I was 25 in 1980. The only thing I regret is that she didn't get a chance to meet my husband that I didn't marry until I was 29.
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Ryuichi13

Quote from: Kendra on July 16, 2017, 09:21:33 PM
Thank you all for the great support, before and after.  Your support means so much to me.

Marcie, huge congratulations on telling your wife.  Your thread mentions your wife had a feeling something was going on.  My mother said the same thing today. 

I wish I could do more to help others but I didn't create a letter.  As today sinks in my advice on what went well is: think about anything the other person has experienced or identifies with, and use that to gently make the point.  Are they left-handed, have they ever had a job title that was historically misgendered, or more direct forms of discrimination.  And whether the best solution to put up with it and just sort of get by, or tackle the issue and turn those lemons into great lemonade.  (Speaking of lemon-shaped objects, I even discussed surgery and they didn't freak out). 

As I re-read this I hope I didn't cause anyone pain by mentioning parents in the age bracket where many (or most) of us have lost our parents due to age, or their health has deteriorated to the point where the risk of additional stress isn't sensible.  We each have many similarities but our situations can be unique.
I'm 55 and I haven't told my parents yet. 

I didn't begin transitioning until I moved a few hundred miles from home, but in my defense, I didn't know that my transitioning was covered by my insurance until less than a year ago, so I've only been "officially" transitioning since September.

My Mom had a stroke in Sept, and even though she's almost fully recovered, during a group phonecall with three of my other siblings, my sister (who's a NURSE, for crying out loud!) warned me not to tell her.  I think Mom will know when I next go back home and I have a facial hair and a deep voice.  But still, it hurt to hear my sister say that. 

I think its because my sister has always been the "stuff always happens to other families, NOT to mine" kind of person, despite what her career shows her.

My Dad doesn't know either (my parents divorced when I was four and he lives in another state), but when he was in the hospital this past February, I called him.  My deep voice threw him at first, but then we began talking like normal.

I'm one of those sons that don't call unless there's something to talk about.  I could have come out to my Dad a week ago when he called me out of the blue for that reason, but I chickened out. 

I'm just now realizing that my transitioning has prevented me from calling them as often as I used to, yet the two of them having called me and heard my now-deep voice.

My technology-hating Dad knows how to videochat.  I think I'm going to seriously consider doing so and telling him.  After all, I was always "the tomboy" in the family.  Somehow, the more I think about it, the less shocked I'm thinking they will be.

Thank you for your original post.  It has given me the courage to once again consider coming out to my parents.

Ryuichi 

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KathyLauren

Congratulations, Kendra, on taking the risk of letting your parents know the real you.  What a gift that is, both for you that it went well, and for them that they will know you as your true self!
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Kendra

#13
Ryuichi, your sister's comments are not as extreme as what a friend said I should do (postpone transition for my parents' sake) but is a reminder - the person in the best position to decide how you should handle your future is you.  Although there were no guarantees, in this particular outcome my friend was clearly wrong.  Whatever you decide - yes or no - the best you can do is equip yourself with your own thoughts, sample the experiences of others, and know you did your best.

I just talked to my dad by phone.  He is emotionally closer to me now than I can recall in a very long time.  I already had a good connection to both parents (an additional reason I was so worried about shattering everything), but a day later I can say the last time I felt this mutually close to them was before I was a teenager. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Ryuichi13

Quote from: Kendra on July 17, 2017, 03:15:06 PM
Ryuichi, your sister's comments are not as extreme as what a friend said I should do (postpone transition for my parents' sake) but is a reminder - the person in the best position to decide how you should handle your future is you.  Although there were no guarantees, in this particular outcome my friend was clearly wrong.  Whatever you decide - yes or no - the best you can do is equip yourself with your own thoughts, sample the experiences of others, and know you did your best.

I just talked to my dad by phone.  He is emotionally closer to me now than I can recall in a very long time.  I already had a good connection to both parents (an additional reason I was so worried about shattering everything), but a day later I can say the last time I felt this mutually close to them was before I was a teenager.
Actually, that's similar to what that sister suggested, that I stay away from home until my Mom dies!  She's pretty healthy since she learned the hard way to not let her high blood pressure meds run out, so she could easily have another 10-15 years.  F*** that noise!  I'm not doing that! 

I think its more for my sister's benefit than for my Mom's anyways.  My Mom accepted me coming out of the (broom) closet as Pagan, I'm pretty sure she'll accept this as well.  After all, I'm still the same person.

My sister's kneejerk response was actually "you're trying to embarrass us (me!), aren't you?  Don't say anything to the girls, you're already a Pagan freak and they don't need to be exposed any more of your crazy s***!"

"The girls" she referred to are both in college, and not only were they the first people I told in the family, their only response was, "what pronouns do you prefer?" 

I think my sister still thinks of them as "innocent little kids," and not as the intelligent young ladies they have grown into.

My Mom knows that I'll always opt for doing things that make me happy.  I've always done so, and I will continue to do so.  I think I will tell her the next time we're face to face, and damn what my sister thinks!

Wonder if Mom knows how videochat?

Ryuichi

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RomanViscera

Congratulations Kendra!!! I am so happy for you!

And good luck Ryuichi!!
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JulieOnHerWay

Congrats Kendra
I think you evaluated your situation with your parents, heard well-meaning advice from others, both personally and from the this forum and made the perfect call.  Al of us of a certain age with parents still around have to make the call.  And most of us make the right one.  My father passed away years ago and only this year did my mother.  I did not tell her because she was in tenuous health the last 2 years and my dysphoria and potential for RL transition was not moving forward.  While I thought that it may have been informative for me about my early life and I think she would have been accepting it would not have done much else.  Finally, I think that now that she has passed she knows my secrets and still loves me as she did in life and wishes the best for me which ever path I take.
As to older parents, I think due to advanced age, life experience and time to appreciate each of their kids as functioning adults, they become more accepting of the variations that life gives us.  Their politics may be conservative. They are devout in their religion. They may grumble about kids theses days, but in the end, life is not a straight line and they have seen things go sideways for unknown reasons and the world still turned.  So when their adult kid comes out, it really does not change things much. They still love us.  Just like if my kids showed up with some freaking bizarre change in their life.
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Kendra

Thank you all for great additional advice and experiences.  I believe our thoughts here will help others. 

Ruichi - If you decide to video chat with your dad and/or mom, here's some ideas.  Video chat is a casual format so we don't think about lighting or camera angle.  Don't over-think it but I recommend do a test run to check - does your current setup emphasize or accidentally hide things you want to highlight?  And most important, does the camera angle place you in an approachable friendly position, appear superior/condescending (camera angle tilted up) or inferior (looking down at you).  Courtrooms place the judge on a platform to imply a judge isn't an equal of other people in the room.  To avoid this distraction find a way to set your camera somewhat close to horizontal.  Also consider where your eyes will be looking.  One trick is make the window showing you what you're seeing smaller so the center of their face is closer to your camera, so they see your eyes focused near the camera.  As icing on the cake, if you make your video chat window smaller (so you can locate it near the camera), set the remaining screen to something that isn't distracting and makes you happy.  If you want a better shot at positive results, think positive - you can influence others with good thoughts. 
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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Charlotte F

Congratulations Kendra!

I'm so pleased it turned out well for you.  This is something I need to do soon with my parents and to be honest something I'm absolutely dreading

Hearing your experience though really has given me a massive boost in confidence that if I prepare well, and take a very positive approach, there's every chance of a good outcome with them too

Charlotte
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tgirlamg

Way to go Kendra!!! ... You are a go-getter and a courageous go-getter at that!!! :)

Testament to all the unecessary worry we often put ourselves through in regards to coming out... Our family relationships hold special significance so it is easy to let our worst fears fill the gaps of the unknowns when trying to predict how they will react!!!... I am sure your relationship will grow even closer as they get to know their amazing and wonderful daughter!!!!

Onward we go brave sister!!!!

Ashley :)
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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