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Did GD fluctuate for you pre transition

Started by zamber74, July 31, 2017, 02:49:45 AM

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zamber74

I've noticed those fluctuations again, instead of creating a new thread I thought I would just stick to this one.  The all encompassing desire to be a woman is still there, but I've noticed the level of fear is not as strong as it has been in the past.  In addition to that, there is all of the work that is involved that contributes to such fluctuation.

And of course, body image.

Some days I'll look in the mirror, and think "I got this, I can make it happen!"  Other days, I'll see a reflection of myself in the mirror, and think there is no way I can ever pull it off, I'll never pass and will forever be seen as some sort of monster ripe for the fear and ridicule of others.  But the negative of it is having less of an impact on me.

So what if I am not accepted among society?  What is the worst they will do to me?  Laugh?  Even if I don't pass, who is to say I can not just walk among society as a man, while being happier with my own body under the clothes of men?  Or perhaps I'll just be a thorn in the side of society, and embrace it..  For those who would be so easily offended at my existence, I could fight back and remind them they do not own the world or me.

I would be lying, if I said I did not feel a streak of resentment toward certain factions of society, and embracing my own level of freak, while out and about is slightly appealing, although it is not at all the motivation or cause of why I want to be a woman.  But what better way to offend the sensibilities of such factions of our society, than to make myself a mirror of their own hate and prejudice.

Of course, I being the shy individual I have always been will not likely pursue such course of action  ;)  It is slightly empowering to think of living such a life at times.  I maintain the course, my wife and I talk about it often, she is supportive and I love that, we are even talking about moving out of this crazy state and to a more accommodating one.  I'm losing weight, and once I hit my goal, the next step to take is the therapist. 

If I lose weight as expected, that should be around January 25th, at 160 pounds. 

I've lived with this for way too long, and to be honest - the only way I have been able to deal with it, to cope with such feelings, is to shut myself down and the world alongside with it.  It has been a huge detriment on my life, and I can't continue on hiding from who I am. 
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amandam

I am in the same place as you. My GD has fluctuated. When I was trying to be a manly man, my crossdressing went hyper-feminine. The more girly or sexy the better. All in an effort to be as much of a girl as possible, the most feminine creature I could create.

I've calmed down somewhat and I am taking steps toward being more fem 24/7. The "sexy" part of crossdressing has diminished. What I think of now, is that if I had a girl's body, I'd be happy in a jean skirt and peasant top.
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sf_erika

I just noticed this thread, but it really resonated with me.  Sometimes my GD is crushing.  Sometimes it's merely background noise.  But ever since I recognized it as GD, it hasn't gone away.  It's been several months now.  It just makes me wonder how much GD I've experienced through the rest of my life without really recognizing or knowing what it was. 

Ever since I recognized my feelings as GD, and started seeing a therapist, I've also realized how complex these emotions are.  Sometimes I'm overcome with fear, sometimes just the pure anxiety of not being myself.  But what's really odd is that sometimes this extreme anxiety can still be accompanied by some form of happiness.  For example, I may be playing with my children, and part of me may feel like the happiest person in the world.  But at the same time, I feel like the saddest person in the world because I'm putting on a facade to them as to who I really am. 

I guess I've never been more in tune with my emotions than I am right now.  It makes the ebb and flow of the GD all the more noticeable


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zamber74

Quote from: amandam on September 02, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
What I think of now, is that if I had a girl's body, I'd be happy in a jean skirt and peasant top.

Me as well, although I wouldn't mind showing off every once in a while  >:-) 
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zamber74

Quote from: sf_erika on September 02, 2017, 01:34:18 PM
But at the same time, I feel like the saddest person in the world because I'm putting on a facade to them as to who I really am. 

I guess I've never been more in tune with my emotions than I am right now.  It makes the ebb and flow of the GD all the more noticeable


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I can relate well with the facade, it is how I always feel around people.. as though I am lying to everyone. 
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Nora Kayte

I think most of us that are this far in life probably went through this. I think it is just life. You go to work. Come home. Do whatever you do there and then do it all over the next day. And for down time you get involved in something that keeps your mind off it. It's like subconsciously you try to give yourself no time to think about it. But then when you do get some down time. It gets bad. And then it starts to carry over into everyday life. And you get through it. All is better in your mind. You forget again because you get busy. Then finally it overtakes you and you can't ignore it anymore. Then no matter what you do you can't forget anymore. You have to deal with it and you have to start transition.


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Bari Jo

Oh god yes, the waves.  Keeping things secret.  The guilt.  Every time it went away, I convinced myself it's just a fetish, it a phase.  Every time it came back it was worse.  When it became so bad I couldn't think of anything else, that's when I gave in.  It's freeing, the GD is still there, but only distant background noise.  Pre HRT, it was so much worse.  I still can't get over how the mania basically stopped.

I actually love reading the 'woe is me' posts.  It reminds me that we all have these feelings.  We aren't alone.  Believe me, sharing like you are doing and others is therapy for all of us!
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10/11/18 - out to the whole world.  100% friends and family support.
11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
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amandam

Can some fool themselves with these fluctuations? There are certain things that I wouldn't want about being female. I wouldn't want periods, pregnancy, or menopause. There are also some things that I liked about being a man, mostly sex. I had one girlfriend who, the sex was so great, I felt like Thor. She was an amazing woman. Though I came to this forum newly in therapy with GD, I wonder if it is not completely real. Or maybe these things could be a sign that I'm not destined for SRS. Or maybe it's just that I'm really repressed.
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rmaddy

Quote from: amandam on September 03, 2017, 01:40:28 AM
Can some fool themselves with these fluctuations? There are certain things that I wouldn't want about being female. I wouldn't want periods, pregnancy, or menopause. There are also some things that I liked about being a man, mostly sex. I had one girlfriend who, the sex was so great, I felt like Thor. She was an amazing woman. Though I came to this forum newly in therapy with GD, I wonder if it is not completely real. Or maybe these things could be a sign that I'm not destined for SRS. Or maybe it's just that I'm really repressed.

I never felt "like Thor" and I don't like my male sexuality at all.  I'm not saying it never felt physically pleasurable, but it never really felt mentally right either. 

In the end though, only you can decide what it is that you need.
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FlightlessFootwear

I can relate to the feelings coming in waves. Ever since I was in elementary school I have been crossdressing and fantasizing about being female, and the want for this would build and build over the course of a month or two when I would finally try crossdressing again when I had the privacy to. It would be amazing, then right after I'd feel embarrassed and put it all away and say that was the last time, and the cycles would repeat.

In the past few months the cycles have been getting shorter however. It moved from every few months to every few weeks, to every week, and now it is coming and going on an almost daily pattern, feeling happy and female one day and feeling doubtful and hateful of myself the next day. I'm trying to work through the periods of dysphoria because I know that I want to come out the other side, but it can be tough some days.
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amandam

Sometimes it seems like my GD is an obsessive-compulsive disorder. But even in the quiet times, I'd rather be a girl.
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Jessica Lynne

Isn't the ebb and flow,fun! Not! It seems to be the nature of the beast. I'm sure hormonal insanity has something to do with it. Suppress it and it ebbs back. Take your E and flows back to you. Find a a happy medium and we suppress our dysphoria. It makes me want to get the whole transition through so I am who I am instead of who I want to or imagine myself to be. Nothing makes you accept facts like waking up with all the proper parts...lol.
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Charlie Nicki

I'm having these waves lately again, really intensified. I started HRT a couple of months ago and losing my boyfriend because of it has made question everything. I know my sadness and uncertainty are led by the depression caused by losing my relationship but I can't help to hesitate and ask "is this really for me?" One minute I'm thinking I have to be strong and keep going, and the next minute I'm regretting things and asking God, Destiny, or whatever you wanna call it, why was I born with this ugly thing in my head, why couldn't I be "normal"?

It's pretty exhausting and annoying. I carry a lot of guilt as well, I thought I had this figured out already but the fact that he left me destabilized me. I'm hoping I get the strength to continue HRT until I get that mental peace that a lot of girls here talk about.

So yeah as you can see, we can still get these doubts and thoughts even after starting.


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zamber74

I swear, it is like two steps forward one step back with me.  Still dealing with the fluctuations, this is like an endless loop.  The problem for now, is that I want my cake and to eat it too.  I want to ensure my loved ones are happy, because when I see them hurting I suffer significantly.  But, I want to be happy as well.  I can't have both though, someone is going to get emotionally hurt and I always default to putting that burden on myself.

I want to be a woman, but at this rate it feels like it will never happen.  It doesn't even make sense to me, why this is so important?  It is not sexual, it is not fashion, it is just a constant feeling that I am supposed to be a woman that never entirely goes away, and the pull gets strong every few months.

I feel I know exactly how this is going to play out, right now I am the early stage of this wave it is only going to get stronger, I won't fight it if anything I will likely embrace it, I will start making plans to see a therapist, but get cold feet.  I know once I have a therapist, to talk to, it is likely a sure thing.  I'll tell them how absolutely guilty I feel, they will likely help me through those feelings of guilt.  The problem is, knowing that is enough for me to stop looking for a therapist. .  Eventually I will see it as impossible, I'll look in the mirror get really depressed, feel really guilty about almost hurting family, but still hold on to hope that one day I build up enough courage to progress further.

Perhaps this wave will be my lucky one though, who knows?  Perhaps for once I'll put myself before my family on this one issue.  Perhaps I will actually see a therapist, take hormones, and see where that leads me.  I do know that with the past few waves, I have taken ever so little steps.  Acceptance of myself being one, telling my wife being another.  It is just such a long process, it is almost inevitable that transition will occur.  I am almost certain after my parents have passed away, there is going to be less holding me back.  Not that I am looking forward to such an event of them being gone, I dread it.

The feelings of guilt I get, are really hard to deal with at times.  I'm not going to do anything rash, but it really is hard, it hurts a lot, and I am tired of going through this over and over again. 


Anyway, just more of my hopeless ramblings.  I'll keep it to this one thread.  I do hope, that my own experiences help others.  My advice to anyone, is don't follow the same steps I have, I'm 43 now and have been feeling this way since a child.  I suggest you see a therapist, and don't be a coward like I am being.

I hope, that years do not pass with me posting the same thing over and over again.  I hope one day I actually take care of this guilt complex of mine, but even considering taking care of it, makes me feel guilty.. I swear, I'm hopeless at times.  Thanks for reading.
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zamber74

Also, I apologize for not responding to everyone.  I do appreciate all of your replies.
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Shambles

Quote from: Denise on July 31, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Mine was quite livable.  I considered it background noise in my life.  Then one day it wasn't background noise any more.  It would last a few hours, then most of the day and then I could literally think of nothing else.  That increase was over a month's time.  So, 50 years of back ground, then build up to intolerable in about a month.

Once I came out to myself and two others and a GD Councilor it diminished.  But still not something I could ignore.  It's a funny thing G.D. is.  I think of it like a cat with claws.  If you stroke it and keep it comfy on your lap it purrs.  Stop patting and the claws come out, first a little warning then it shreds your clothes.

I came out to my wife at the start of the week and now it feels like thr gd is gone. Well not gone its still there but its almost like i dont mind it sitting on my shoulder. Im waiting for this to pass as i cant imagine it will last a long time. Even in this time i can feel the erge to buy a wig but i can tell it to go away
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16th Nov 17 - Came out to myself
7th Jan 18 - Came out to wife
31st Jan 18 - Referred to GIC / might be seen in 2020
Oct 18 - Fully out at one job, part out at another
Nov 18 - Out to close family
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krobinson103

G.D. is an interesting thing. Before starting transition - which in reality started at least a year ago by entertaining thoughts of wishing I was female and not denying them I would have days where I thought nothing of it. Then there were days I'd observe every little detail around me and wish my body wasn't male.

In the end it became quite silly. I've known what I need to do for st least 28 years but never did anything about it. When a quiet time arrived I examined all the evidence. Found myself foolishly denying the truth and decided to do sonething about it.

G.D. doesn't really go away even on HRT for me. I still see wonen and wish I could do more to erase the maleness in me. Its easier to cope with, but I know it will always be present at some level.
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zamber74

I'm just laying here, day dreaming and thinking.  I am catching on to a few trends I follow, and trying to make sense of them.  Right now, I am thinking of where all of this guilt and shame is coming from, the life of low self esteem, depression, along with anxiety being around others.

It all comes down to expectations and roles we are assigned based upon our gender, and I do absolutely miserable as a man.  I have spent most of my life hiding from people, trying to get away from those roles and expectations.  But I feel ashamed about it, I always have.  As though I am letting down society as a whole.  I feel as though I am nothing more than a drain on society, and not holding up to their expectations.

Reading various comments on the Internet, hearing it from former coworkers, even my own family and it always comes down to how people treat one another, according to their gender, what is expected.  It is such absolute rubbish.  I'm not a man, I never have been a man, I can not live as a man, I have the equipment down stairs, but that is it.  I can not survive in a man's world, I can not live with myself by pretending to be a man in this society.  Every time I have tried to be a man, I have failed. 

I really need to speak to a therapist, if for nothing else but to put my poor mind at ease, to lift the burden of guilt of not living up to society's standards.  I don't even think it is internalized transphobia, it is just being a disappointment to most people, and how the world views me. 

I don't hold these standards upon others, but I know they are expected of me, and not being able to uphold them is killing me.  I feel like I owe the world something, and am in debt.. I don't hold others to such standards though.  I don't know how to break myself of this mentality.

So, yet another depressing post to my thread. 


If my thread is getting a bit out of hand, please let me know.  I'll stop posting to it, I don't want to drag other people down, and I hope I am not.
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SomeGirlShay

I get it. I have been dealing with this a lot especially recently. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't just a phase but then I look back at my life and see all the signs, unfortunately I was pushing those feelings away for so long that I am confused about what I really am. Since June of last year the urge has been pretty strong with it subsiding briefly in November then it came back stronger. It's hard because I am having family issues on top of it. I wished I could just be normal but in reality there really isn't a normal to base ones life on.

I think it is easy to fluctuate because there is so much at stake. It really depends on where you are at in life and how comfortable you really are with yourself. I believe location can have a huge impact on this because if you are in a place that is intolerant of trans issues then you might fluctuate because you don't feel comfortable with it. Just know that no matter what you are who you are regardless.
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zamber74

Quote from: SomeGirlShay on January 24, 2018, 12:16:43 PM
I get it. I have been dealing with this a lot especially recently. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't just a phase but then I look back at my life and see all the signs, unfortunately I was pushing those feelings away for so long that I am confused about what I really am. Since June of last year the urge has been pretty strong with it subsiding briefly in November then it came back stronger. It's hard because I am having family issues on top of it. I wished I could just be normal but in reality there really isn't a normal to base ones life on.

I read your other thread, and wasn't sure how to respond to it, but it sounds like a very difficult time for you.  I'm fortunate, as few others have been, my wife supports me.  There have been no fights, head games, etc.. I just don't know how everyone else can do it, you all are a lot more capable than me, that much is for certain.  Right now, I'm okay with not being normal, I wouldn't change that, I just have this unending feeling of guilt, because I am not what society wants me to be, and I imagine the same would extend to my parents and brothers.

Hopefully in a few months, I will be posting about how I am seeing a therapist, taking HRT, etc.  I'm already growing my hair out, trying to lose weight, but there is so much further I need to go, especially with the guilt complex.. if I can overcome that, then I can get on with life.  If not, then it is just going to be this same miserable cycle spinning for the rest of my life.

I hope likewise, things turn around for the best for you as well.




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