Dream Date Discussion

[Julia1996]

This sounds soooo romantic  omg. Wish there were more guys like you, mac!!

Julia and FTMax need to go out together. Lol

My perfect date would be a walk to the beach at sunset, and coffee shop date to talk. Or a movie. I love to discuss movies.

Yeah we do. I could slip mushrooms into his food. Lol

[eyesk8rboi]

FTMax, how can you not like mushrooms?? Who DOESN'T like mushrooms??

Dena, meet Julia. You both love eating fungus. Clearly this is a perfect match! I am a match maker now. You're welcome.

I too enjoy the nomming of fungus....Maybe it should be a triad? 

[eyesk8rboi]

Yeah we do. I could slip mushrooms into his food. Lol

Do it....Convert him!

[Kelly1ca]

My dream date is a lovely walk though a park that leads to a picnic in  a secluded area. In the picnic  we have nice bottle of champagne and some lovely strawberries. Than off to home to watch a nice romantic movie while cuddling on the couch. This finally ends with a beautiful tumble in the bedroom.

[FTMax]

The fact you can identify colors is great too. Most guys don't have that ability. To them there are no shades.  Everything is just straight up blue, red, etc. Lol.

My ex-girlfriend and I had a lengthy debate once over the differences between orange, coral, and salmon

This sounds soooo romantic  omg. Wish there were more guys like you, mac!!

Julia and FTMax need to go out together. Lol

My perfect date would be a walk to the beach at sunset, and coffee shop date to talk. Or a movie. I love to discuss movies.

Yeah we do. I could slip mushrooms into his food. Lol

The less mushrooms I eat, the more mushrooms for you!

[eyesk8rboi]

My dream date begins on the Grand Canal shortly after dawn in late June with my date feeding me a sugar cube dipped in espresso.  We share bread, coffee, and cheese as Venice comes alive walking hand in hand without an immediate destination.  He kisses me and smiles, as from his jacket he pulls tickets to a private backstage tour of Teatro La Fenice.  While my Italian is sufficient to order a meal and find the bathroom my date translates the history of the Italian Opera as we walk through the dressing rooms, the sets, the sumptuous private boxes.

Before leaving we listen to a rehearsal of La Boheme.  Puccini's arias bring tears to my eyes with their beauty and the majesty of grand opera, even while in rehearsal.  Perhaps more so as the soprano is consumed with the passion of the music and the passion of interpretation and the tenor sings Che gelida manina... with such intensity that tears of joy flow freely down both of our cheeks.

We have a late lunch on the Piasa San Marco, watching the tourists and the dance of youth in love, before retiring for love making and a bath at Santa Maria del Giglio where we have a suite.  As the sun begins to set we dress elegantly and are serenaded by our gondolier as we quietly travel the canals to a midnight dinner and dancing until the coming of another dawn.

That sounds really nice!!! I want to visit Italy so bad one day. Maybe that's a good honey moon destination if I'm nice and rich by then!

[eyesk8rboi]

This sounds soooo romantic  omg. Wish there were more guys like you, mac!!

Julia and FTMax need to go out together. Lol

My perfect date would be a walk to the beach at sunset, and coffee shop date to talk. Or a movie. I love to discuss movies.

My generation is the "queer-ist" so there should be plenty of us out there.
That sounds like a really nice date too. Coffee and after-movie discussion is always best!

Wow Mac. Your like the perfect guy. From my experiences so far with my dad, brother and boyfriend, a man who's cool expressing his feminine side is rare. Don't underestimate the value of that to a woman. I think all guys have a feminine side to some extent, they just won't admit it and totally would never act on it. The fact you can identify colors is great too. Most guys don't have that ability. To them there are no shades.  Everything is just straight up blue, red, etc. Lol. And if you're willing to actually shop with your girl you are even farther ahead. You have to drag most guys shopping and even if they go they start asking "can we go now" ten seconds after walking in the store. Any girl you date will be lucky.
Julia

My thing is...and I obviously can't speak for everyone, but a lot of FTMs are so concerned with being THE MAN...And I've always had a pretty feminine personality, which is one reason it was such a hard time for me deciding to move forward and accept who I am.
Like I've always been a hopeless romantic as well so that contributes.
The only reason I don't care for shopping with the girl I'm talking too now is that I don't have the money to spoil the living hell of her and buy her everything she adores, because while she knows I don't have the money and she has no problems with me being frugal right now for multiple reasons, it still makes ME feel sad that I can't.
My best friend drags me with her to makeup stores all the time, and as a person who really enjoys all the colors, by the time I leave my entire hand and arm is cover in lipstick, eyeliner, highlighter, you name it! All the shiny things!
Mint green is actually my favorite color and my mom told me that I couldn't be a dude AND like mint green and I was like...WATCH ME! (She was joking of course, but still.)

I also think mani-pedis followed by bakery treats and a coffee at a cute little cafe would be a boss date....I like being pampered. Nothing like having your eyebrows threaded, a sugar scrub on your legs and of course, the hair washing when you get your hair cut.... #femftmandproud-ish

[RobynD]

Mine would be similar to be with my guy in the South Pacific some place with white sand beaches and where your hotel suite or cabin includes its on little dunk pool and is built on docks over the water.

[Julia1996]

My generation is the "queer-ist" so there should be plenty of us out there.
That sounds like a really nice date too. Coffee and after-movie discussion is always best!

My thing is...and I obviously can't speak for everyone, but a lot of FTMs are so concerned with being THE MAN...And I've always had a pretty feminine personality, which is one reason it was such a hard time for me deciding to move forward and accept who I am.
Like I've always been a hopeless romantic as well so that contributes.
The only reason I don't care for shopping with the girl I'm talking too now is that I don't have the money to spoil the living hell of her and buy her everything she adores, because while she knows I don't have the money and she has no problems with me being frugal right now for multiple reasons, it still makes ME feel sad that I can't.
My best friend drags me with her to makeup stores all the time, and as a person who really enjoys all the colors, by the time I leave my entire hand and arm is cover in lipstick, eyeliner, highlighter, you name it! All the shiny things!
Mint green is actually my favorite color and my mom told me that I couldn't be a dude AND like mint green and I was like...WATCH ME! (She was joking of course, but still.)

I also think mani-pedis followed by bakery treats and a coffee at a cute little cafe would be a boss date....I like being pampered. Nothing like having your eyebrows threaded, a sugar scrub on your legs and of course, the hair washing when you get your hair cut.... #femftmandproud-ish

It's not just trans men who act that way. Most CIS guys are all about proving how manly and masculine they are. If a guy does like something generally considered feminine society tells them it's wrong to like it. People in general associate certain jobs to be for women and if a guy happens to be in one of those jobs they think he has to be gay. Nurses, air stewards, hair stylist,etc. And guys think taking care of certain things makes them feminine. It was a battle to get my boyfriend to let me clean up his eyebrows a little. Forget manicures and pedicures. And society really pushes it on them. There was a commercial for testosterone boosting vitamins.  It showed a guy getting a facial and another one getting a manicure. The commercial urged guys to buy the vitamins before American masculinity was gone. Or something really stupid like that. Anyway, I think it's wonderful that you're secure enough in your masculinity to admit you have some female interests.

Sigh, well I guess the mushrooms were a deal breaker for FTMax. And I was going to shave my ears and knuckles for our date. I was even going to wear my good flip flops. Oh well.

[FTMax]

Sigh, well I guess the mushrooms were a deal breaker for FTMax. And I was going to shave my ears and knuckles for our date. I was even going to wear my good flip flops. Oh well.

Ear shaving has me intrigued. You've got yourself a date.

[judithlynn]

Hi Robyn;
What about Whitehaven beach in the Whitsundays:

https://www.cruisewhitsundays.com/whitehaven-day-cruises/whitehaven-and-hamilton-island-day-cruise

[RobynD]

Hi Robyn;
What about Whitehaven beach in the Whitsundays:

https://www.cruisewhitsundays.com/whitehaven-day-cruises/whitehaven-and-hamilton-island-day-cruise

That looks delightful! I think our first big trip will be Costa Rica

[N A]

In a bathroom, on a lunch break. Then back to our respective offices.

I live on small things.

[MirandaLove]

So this only slightly off topic but related!  My first date with a guy was with this super hot musician.  I went over to his place and he was standing in the house, where I could see him leaning against the kitchen counter drinking from a glass.  He greeted me with a sweet, smooth "hey" and his big arms wrapped around me.  No words for what seemed like ten minutes or more, just holding each other close, feeling each other breathe.  Things escalated from there and he pulled me over to the couch, where he sat and I straddled him.  I'll just leave that there...

We went out to an intimate  little restaurant and then to a movie, where he held my hand sweetly.  We walked around at night then headed back to his place.  We sat out on the back porch and talked and smoked and drank.  It was magical, with pretty lights and a shining moon.  He started playing his instruments and I started dancing.  We were so in sync.  Tired from playing and dancing, we went back to his room and I stretched out on the bed.  He put the perfect music on and we chatted while snuggling and massaging each other.

Everything was perfect.  I was in heaven and could see myself laying there forever.  At least I wanted to lie there forever.

I freaked out.  It all seemed too perfect, like he had done this same routine a million times before.  I freaked out!  I thanked him for the time together and left abruptly, making some excuse as to why I was suddenly uncomfortable.  I tried to find anything wrong with the situation to justify my anxiety.  I blamed my dysphoria, but I didn't really give him a chance to support me through it.

It was perfect, but I freaked out.  I wish had stayed just a bit longer, but I didn't.  I still find myself hoping that he'll reach out to me again, so we can have another shot.  I guess that would be my perfect date at the moment.  A do-over!


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[eyesk8rboi]

So this only slightly off topic but related!  My first date with a guy was with this super hot musician.  I went over to his place and he was standing in the house, where I could see him leaning against the kitchen counter drinking from a glass.  He greeted me with a sweet, smooth "hey" and his big arms wrapped around me.  No words for what seemed like ten minutes or more, just holding each other close, feeling each other breathe.  Things escalated from there and he pulled me over to the couch, where he sat and I straddled him.  I'll just leave that there...

We went out to an intimate  little restaurant and then to a movie, where he held my hand sweetly.  We walked around at night then headed back to his place.  We sat out on the back porch and talked and smoked and drank.  It was magical, with pretty lights and a shining moon.  He started playing his instruments and I started dancing.  We were so in sync.  Tired from playing and dancing, we went back to his room and I stretched out on the bed.  He put the perfect music on and we chatted while snuggling and massaging each other.

Everything was perfect.  I was in heaven and could see myself laying there forever.  At least I wanted to lie there forever.

I freaked out.  It all seemed too perfect, like he had done this same routine a million times before.  I freaked out!  I thanked him for the time together and left abruptly, making some excuse as to why I was suddenly uncomfortable.  I tried to find anything wrong with the situation to justify my anxiety.  I blamed my dysphoria, but I didn't really give him a chance to support me through it.

It was perfect, but I freaked out.  I wish had stayed just a bit longer, but I didn't.  I still find myself hoping that he'll reach out to me again, so we can have another shot.  I guess that would be my perfect date at the moment.  A do-over!


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OMG THAT SOUNDS SO AMAZING! One of my favorite thing to do with my friends is just sit on a porch and smoke and drink. I have a friend who had a crush on me a while back, but I couldn't return the feelings, however we spent a lot of time on his porch smoking and drinking until the wee hours of the morning and those are honestly some of the best times I've ever had....So doing it for a date sounds amazing!

[MirandaLove]

OMG THAT SOUNDS SO AMAZING! One of my favorite thing to do with my friends is just sit on a porch and smoke and drink. I have a friend who had a crush on me a while back, but I couldn't return the feelings, however we spent a lot of time on his porch smoking and drinking until the wee hours of the morning and those are honestly some of the best times I've ever had....So doing it for a date sounds amazing!

Totally!  Sitting outside and just letting your minds wander down all sorts of rabbit holes and trusting that the other person will still be there after revealing your fears, dreams, your frustrations and even your most outlandish ideas.  It is its own kind of intimacy.   


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[RobynD]

Sitting on the patio of a bar with my boyfriend, drinking a bit and talking about everything and nothing in particular. Enjoying the summer evening. That is a perfect date we've had a few times this summer.

[eyesk8rboi]

Once I'm old enough to rent a car (#stillaweebab) I'm going to to rent a truck and fill the bed with pillows and blankets, find somewhere nice under the stars on a cool fall night and take the lady out to star gaze and cuddle in the truck bed....We'll take a thermos of hot chocolate and some sweet treats and lie there for hours! 

[Julia1996]

Once I'm old enough to rent a car (#stillaweebab) I'm going to to rent a truck and fill the bed with pillows and blankets, find somewhere nice under the stars on a cool fall night and take the lady out to star gaze and cuddle in the truck bed....We'll take a thermos of hot chocolate and some sweet treats and lie there for hours! 

Wow Mac. You have some really romantic ideas. Someone will be lucky to have you as a SO. My boyfriend's idea of romantic is not farting after he eats chili or that nasty ass vegemite.
Julia

[eyesk8rboi]

Wow Mac. You have some really romantic ideas. Someone will be lucky to have you as a SO. My boyfriend's idea of romantic is not farting after he eats chili or that nasty ass vegemite.
Julia

Psh! I farted in my girls face one day when she got sassy with me....To be far....she got me back...and we both laughed....I am equally as gross and un-romantic sometimes. So I try to make up for it.