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Started by Charlene2017, August 11, 2017, 10:36:32 PM

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Charlene2017

WOW where to start.  I have been on a few forums trying to find a place I like to hang out in.  This site seems to come up a lot during my Google searches so figured I join and see what it is actually like to belong here.

About me, not really hard to guess or figure out as my story is most likely the same as many on here.  I have always known I wasn't supposed to be a little boy but growing up in the 70's/80's wasn't the best for information about transgender people.  All I had access to was the tabloids and a few books the library had on the subject, well and some really scary porn type magazines.  Add to that parents that were a little against anyone that wasn't straight.

I tried all the "manly" sports like rugby, football, hockey, etc...even enlisted in the reserves as Military Police during the college years.  Didn't help though just made everything worse.

After college in the early 90's I met the woman of my dreams who I thought would make all those feelings go away and be the man/husband she wanted and dreamed of.  It seemed to work.  I did tell her about liking to "dress-up" as they say which she wasn't too happy about but figured as long as I did it when she wouldn't see it, all was good.  Kids came into the picture and life too off way to fast.  There was no time for "me" to do my thing, so I fell into a routine of work, take care of the family, play with the kids and gained over 150+ pounds of fat.  Hey I figured the bigger I was, the less I'd want to be a woman or hoped I would die early from a heart attack or stroke.

Early 40's hit and I couldn't take it so I wrote my wife a long letter telling her everything from the beginning.  She read it while I played baseball with an old-timers league I joined a few years previous.  The return letter wasn't the best but at the same time it wasn't what I played in my head.  I still had a roof over my head and a family to come home to.  I did find a doctor to talk with and almost started HRT a few months (more like 6-8 months...) later.  One night we had a long talk and I figured I would try again to save my marriage and family.

It lasted a few years but it was always there.  Talking with the doctor helped but it was always there, waiting, teasing, you get the idea.  I was just about to come out again and start the whole routine to transition from male to female when my worst nightmare happened.

Our oldest child, our first born, the one I asked God on the day he was born NOT to make him like his dad.  I begged Him to save this child from the pain I had gone through for the last 30 years (I was 30 when he was born...) decided on his 18th year on this planet that he wanted to be a she.  WTF?  Why?  I begged and prayed for him to not be like me.  So my wife and I did what we thought was best, we got him (now her...) the help she needed.  She isn't the quickest child when it comes to noticing stuff like "how come dad got me appointments with doctors that specialize in transgender issues so quickly?".  She didn't have to wait 6-8 months like most others as I asked both doctors if they could squeeze her in.

So now I was focused on being the supportive parent and giving her all the love and support she needed (needs...) to be herself.  It helped put all my feelings on hold as she needed her time to find herself along with finishing high school and going to college.  Well it seemed to have worked.

Advance to end of 2016, my health issues and weight gain started to scare me too much and my wife.  I did start to lose some weight in the summer of 2016 but not a lot as I still wasn't happy.  At the end of the year I went to sleep clinics to deal with sleep apnea and see a doctor about low testosterone which I found out was lower than females, in fact 5 year olds had higher T than I did.  So I went on the shots to hopefully help and maybe make me be more of a man/husband/father.  I did feel more alive energywise. Didn't feel tired or fall asleep during the day, but then the CPAP machine could have been good too.  But there just wasn't something that "felt" right with T in my head.  Blood work showed the T levels hitting the male range but my estrogen levels where through the roof.  He gave me pills to kill the E but I didn't take them as I liked having more E than T. 

Sorry this is so long, I didn't mean for it to be but if you stayed this long it does get better, sort of.

Coming up on my 6 months of T and my daughter wanted to talk with her doctor about bottom surgery as she was just past the 1 year mark.  That got me into looking into bottom surgery again to educate myself to help her if she had question or concerns.  Well that triggered a ton of feelings.  Talked with the doctor who does T shots and asked if he dealt with Trans people as well.  He did and started me on HRT which was 1 month ago today.

It feels nice having E in my body instead of those stupid T shots.  My wife and I have been really stressed about it but she has said she is willing to try and adjust, she just needs time and for me to go slow.  She says she still loves me but will not be able to be romantic or physical was the changes occur.  In the end, we can end up still together without a sex life which is okay with me as she already has a very low sex drive anyway.

So that's my story.  I am 6 feet 1 inch tall and weight about 360+ pounds in 2016.  Currently I am down to 300 pounds and going for long walks almost daily.  Now that I have hit 300, my next goal is 250 at which time I will start to mountain bike again.  I hope to get under 200 before next summer.  It won't be easy but now for the first time ever, I feel alive and want to stay that way.  After all, 51 years old isn't too old.

I do have a lot to work on in the next few years as I want to stay in hiding until I get everything in place like voice, hair, etc...etc.  I figure by the time I hit 60 and can retire, I should be ready for full-time and not have to worry about the working world.  We'll see though as I really would like to just live as me for the first time ever.

Thanks for listening (or reading in this case...).

Charlene
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Dena

Welcome to Susan's Place. We are aware of the family link with the LGBT family as there have been threads on the subject. While the details aren't fully known, there appears to be a genetic link for some of us and there also appears to be environmental factors. Fortunately by helping your child while she is still young, she will avoid many of the issues we have had to deal with.

As for you, I am 6'2" and currently about 166 pounds. Height isn't an issue as long as you pay attention to the details. There is one active poster at 6'5" and we have had members at 6'7" so tall is beautiful. We are here to help and should it be needed, both your wife and child are welcome here. For your wife, there is a SO section and while we have limits on behavior, we understand that SOs have serious issues so we cut a good deal more slack in the SO area.

Should you need help in any other areas of the transition, let us know. I was drawn to the site because of voice issues that I was finally able to address after over 35 years. I have a fair amount of knowledge and I am willing to help others. The other members of the site have more knowledge in other areas and are willing to help you as well. With over 10 year of information archived on this site you should be able to find just about anything you need and what you can't, just ask for it.

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Laurie


Hi Charlene

  I'm Laurie, 64 and MtF. I would very much like to welcome you to Susan's Place and invite you to come on in and join us here in helping others where we can.
  I read your story and by the end of it I had a tear in my eye. Not from sadness but for the joy and hope your story can bring to so many who are struggling with their their own life challenges. You pausing to help your daughter was wonderful yet a bit sad at the same time as it did put you on hold. But what the heck are parents for if not to do all they can to provide for the needs of their children. I wish I had done as well as you have in that category.
   I thought for sure  your were going to relate a tale of woe when you began talking about your wife and her reactions, I see now that the need for both of you to come together and help your daughter was just what your wife needed to begin to understand you and give it a good honest try. Again my story was much different than yours though I have to give my ex-wife credit for putting up with me for as long as she did. It took many years for me to understand that divorcing me was the best thing she could have done for herself at the time.
   I am so glad that you are now embarked on your journey, for it is a journey, to realizing who you know you are inside. I  started my journey this last December and though it can be a bit scary at times it has been a wonderful ride so far. I wish you all the joy you can have from your journey. You are finally on the right path to a new life. Do all you can to enjoy the ride and bring your family along.

Hugs to you and your family,
   Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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Kendra

Hello Charlene, and welcome!

I am MTF, we are similar age.  My marriage disintegrated 18 years ago, largely due to several self-destructive habits I had and then fixed one by one - all things I believe were triggered by my gender dysphoria.  Excessive alcohol, excessive food, and I had a general disregard for the feelings of other people.  I found it difficult at the time to like other people because I didn't like myself.  My ex-wife does not know I am transgender - she is a great person, I intend to simply show up in the next few months and I expect she will not recognize me at first.  I owe her an explanation of what I now understand about myself and my past.  I cannot fix the past but I am excited about the future. 

I want to compliment you for quickly and completely supporting the transition of your oldest child.  I have never been in this situation from your point of view (as a parent), but I would not have seen that situation as a nightmare.  Quite the opposite, I see being transgender as an incredible opportunity.  My point of view is probably rare but this is what I believe.  When I disclosed this to my parents last month (when I told them I'm transgender and I am transitioning) I explained the best I could - my goal is to live as my true self no matter what it takes, and by doing so I will be able to experience so much more in my lifetime than the average person.  To me, not transitioning would be like a bird that never bothered to fly. 

I wish you the best for your future, and for your wife and children.  I believe you came to the right place.  Glad you joined. 

Kendra
Assigned male at birth 1963.  Decided I wanted to be a girl in 1971.  Laser 2014-16, electrolysis 2015-17, HRT 7/2017, GCS 1/2018, VFS 3/2018, FFS 5/2018, Labiaplasty & BA 7/2018. 
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LizK

Hi Charlene

Welcome to Susans

Wow what unexpected series of events...I can't imagine how much strength it took to help your child out and focus on her with all the inner turmoil.

It been a long and tough journey here and I hope we can be of some help during your time here.

I can empathise with the Testosterone shots I had a couple of those and I hated it, the only time my wife has ever come close to divorcing me was in the height of my T shots...I was a not a nice person to be around and felt terrible all the time, plenty of energy but the other stuff I hated.

I had all sorts of timelines for my transition but it seems to have grown at is own comfortable pace and I am slowly ticking things off as I am sure you will begin to as well. I hope you can make it to retirement but in the end you will know when its time...I know I did  :D

It great that you have kept your relationship going I know mine has changed with my wife since I started to transition but I would not say for the worse, certainly in an unexpectedly positive way.


Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Charlene2017

Thanks everyone for the kind comments...

It actually wasn't too hard to focus on our daughter and put my inner feelings on hold as my wife and kids always come first.  Even now I am following my wife's wishes to take it slow and give her time to grieve the loss of her husband as I understand those feelings when our son stopped existing and our daughter began.  This I can discuss in more detail else were and not here in the intro.

Charlene

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Laurie

Quote from: Charlene2017 on August 12, 2017, 07:32:20 PM
This I can discuss in more detail else were and not here in the intro.

Charlene

  Hi Again Charlene. In regards to discussing other things elsewhere, may I make a suggestion? Some of us have started threads that evolved into a personal account concerning the things that occur as we plod along on this road we call transition. For me  I started with a thread where I expressed my nervousness at having to tell my doctor that I thought I was trans and had been taking HRT drugs  I had obtained elsewhere. I got a lot of support from the good folk here at Susan's and when I had mustered up the courage and told him, I returned to report how well it went. The next thing that bothered me I posted on in the same thread. Eventually I decided I had a place to share all about what was happening with me. It's become a journal of sorts with feedback and support of my friends here.
  Perhaps it would work for you also.

  Hugs,
    Laurie
April 13, 2019 switched to estradiol valerate
December 20, 2018    Referral sent to OHSU Dr Dugi  for vaginoplasty consult
December 10, 2018    Second Letter VA Psychiatric Practical nurse
November 15, 2018    First letter from VA therapist
May 11, 2018 I am Laurie Jeanette Wickwire
May   3, 2018 Submitted name change forms
Aug 26, 2017 another increase in estradiol
Jun  26, 2017 Last day in male attire That's full time I guess
May 20, 2017 doubled estradiol
May 18, 2017 started electrolysis
Dec   4, 2016 Started estradiol and spironolactone



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V M

Hi Charlene  :icon_wave:

Welcome to Susan's Place  :)  Glad to have you here, join on in the fun

Hugs

V M
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