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Face, passability as a female

Started by Rachel_Christina, August 25, 2017, 12:27:53 PM

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Rachel_Christina

Hey all.
Hope everyone is doing well.

Ok I have been wondering lately about my face. How passable is it, my profile bothers me most.
From the front I think I'm fairly passable.
I think my forehead protrudes a little to much and my nose a little flat almost Roman. (It is slightly bent to the right and this creates the illusion of a jump from certain angles)

What do ya'll think?





I'm considering Yeson eventually and that should also take care of the apple :@
Thanks for any help, Rachel 💕


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rmaddy

You got great hair, girl. 

Seriously, don't worry about passing.  Be yourself...a beautiful transwoman.
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amandam

You are very passable. If you want it perfect, you have slight bossing, high hairline, maybe a tad of jawline work. But if I were you, I'd not worry about it. You are within female norms.
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Julia1996

I don't see anything masculine in any of your pictures. I wouldn't think anyone would think you're trans. Actually you remind me of Lucy Lawless. If FFS is something that will make you feel more comfortable then go for it. But it's not something you need to pass. I watched a YouTube video of FFS . OMG it's totally BRUTAL. I can't imagine anyone having it unless they REALLY needed it to pass.
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SRS done 5/21/2018
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SailorMars1994

Stop making me jelious. You are as feminine as it gets. Too feminine even, gimme some ;) :)
AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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Sarah_P

I wish my forehead only protruded that far.... Mine sticks out quite far, shadowing my eyes, making them look very sunken.
--Sarah P

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Rachel_Christina

Quote from: Julia1996 on August 25, 2017, 12:45:30 PM
I watched a YouTube video of FFS . OMG it's totally BRUTAL. I can't imagine anyone having it unless they REALLY needed it to pass.
Julia

Thanks Julia, I know you are right, these surgeries are brutal. They make want to faint looking at them.
I would be a reck before going into any one off the surgerys that go with being trans.

Thank you all.
I have been quiet negative on my looks atm so this has me doubting my look alot.
It's very frustrating.
I have had two weeks of facial hair before and after laser. Tomorrow it come out though so that should pick up my spirits.
Face is such an important part of us, and my face is still my face, I would love to be confident 100% in it, but I'm afraid changing it could entail regret.
Hopefully I just learn to love that damn head lol


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RobynD

You are a lovely lady and you will certainly blend in wonderfully.


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KathyLauren

You have a beautiful face.  Your forehead is fine.  Your nose is a little longer than average for a female, but still within the bounds of passability.  The only barrier I see to passability is the moustache shadow.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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elkie-t

You may want to consider cosmetic surgery on you nose and shaping eyebrows a little  (non-surgical! beauty salon kind of treatment). Nice lashes. I didn't see anything that would tell me 'male' in your face


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Rachel_Christina

Quote from: elkie-t on August 25, 2017, 01:44:16 PM
You may want to consider cosmetic surgery on you nose and shaping eyebrows a little  (non-surgical! beauty salon kind of treatment). Nice lashes. I didn't see anything that would tell me 'male' in your face


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Thank you, and yeah maybe the nose could get a touch.
And yep the eye brows I cannot touch as I am not out at work, I have another three months to go.

Yeah I'm working on the hair Kathy, it will fall out tomorrow, I had laser a week ago (8th session)


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elkie-t

Quote from: Rachel_Christina on August 25, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
Thank you, and yeah maybe the nose could get a touch.
And yep the eye brows I cannot touch as I am not out at work, I have another three months to go.

Yeah I'm working on the hair Kathy, it will fall out tomorrow, I had laser a week ago (8th session)
I'm not saying totally thinning out your brows, just plucking out some stray hairs... I'm presenting myself in male mode and do it whenever I feel like it.
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Julia1996

Quote from: Rachel_Christina on August 25, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
Thank you, and yeah maybe the nose could get a touch.
And yep the eye brows I cannot touch as I am not out at work, I have another three months to go.

Yeah I'm working on the hair Kathy, it will fall out tomorrow, I had laser a week ago (8th session)
You're not out at work??? How?? You totally can't pass for a man.
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Tammy Jade

I wish I was that passable. You look stunning.




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Dani2118

I'm with Julia, how CAN you pass as a man! If your forehead bothers you try layering at the front, it's almost like bangs but not quite. Look at some wig adverts. because that's how they hide the wig cap.
I finally get to be me, and I don't want today to be my last! That's a very nice feeling.  ;D ;D ;D
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Lady Lisandra

You could totally pass. You may have some features that might not be normal for standart women, but that doesn't mean that cis women don't have them at all, or that they will make people notice you.

Shaping your brows can make magic. Don't worry about your job, nobody will care.
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Sophia Sage

Facial recognition is a gestalt process.  While some things have more weight than others, there's still an awful lot of variables.  And, don't forget, when it comes to "gender assignment" (how other people instinctively gender you) that process of facial recognition is part of a larger gestalt that includes your voice and your body -- and, just as (if not more) importantly, what you do with them.

In that context, if you've got everything working for you, the only thing you really need to address is your facial hair and the tracheal bump.  Because in your favor you have a very short upper lip, great hair, and though you have some forehead protrusion it doesn't really extend over your orbits, which keeps your eyes open rather than deeply hooded.  The angle of your mandible (described as the "corner" of the line from your chin and the line from your ear) is fairly oblique, so your jaw isn't particularly square.  On the other hand, you do have a glabella (the center of the forehead), nose, and chin that are all larger and longer than average -- features that would be considered "exaggerated" in a cis woman.  That they are all features along the center of your face is at least harmonious, though, for a woman with a long face.

Yes, you could benefit from facial work -- forehead, rhinoplasty, chin reduction and tapering, possibly a scalp advancement -- but you wouldn't ever need this to pass if you, like, had a great voice or an utterly charming personality.  On the other hand, with just a decent voice and the facial work, you'd be unclockable. Unclockable means that if you made a social faux pas, for example, and people looked at you again with a measure of scrutiny, they still wouldn't find anything amiss.

Which is a really nice place to be.
What you look forward to has already come, but you do not recognize it.
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Sinclair

Quote from: KathyLauren on August 25, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
You have a beautiful face.  Your forehead is fine.  Your nose is a little longer than average for a female, but still within the bounds of passability.  The only barrier I see to passability is the moustache shadow.

I agree. Need to get rid of that pesky facial hair. Otherwise, I would not change anything.
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Bari Jo

You are beautiful Rachel.  No, you are not passable as a man.  See what I did there?  Seriously, you look fantastic.
you know how far the universe extends outward? i think i go inside just as deep.

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11/6/17 - came out to sister, best day of my life
9/5/17 - formal diagnosis and stopping DIY in favor if prescribed HRT
6/18/17 - decided to stop fighting the trans beast, back on DIY.
Too many ups and downs, DIY, purges of self inbetween dates.
Age 10 - suppression and denial began
Age 8 - knew I was different
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Rachel_Christina

Lol Julia and Dani,. Passing as a man is easy, put on rough work clothes and boots, tie your hair in a top knot, talk rough, and Strut haha.
Thank you all for the input, I must bide my time for the eyebrows, which is highly annoying.
Same as the facial hair it should be gone soon enough I hope. It's been frustrating watching all the hairs fall out after each session, and then somehow come back :@
Thanks Sophia too, that's the thing with my weird head, if I do the nose or any other part I think I have to do it all.
I also don't know how much I trust the camera, it's a good enough phone (Huawei Mate 9 pro) but sometimes it seems to skew things, I dunno maybe I have just gone gaga with all this.
Thank you all for the input, actually just talking about it made me feel better. You know just interacting.
I'm gonna go get rid of what is left of my facial hair now :3


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