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Parents pull children out of school after lesson on trans issues

Started by stephaniec, September 04, 2017, 03:01:01 PM

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DawnOday

Laurie sorry. Guess I should save it for Huff post or Facebook.[emoji39] Unfortunately my Engineering background forces me to look for root causes.

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Laurie

Quote from: DawnOday on September 10, 2017, 10:39:02 PM
Laurie sorry. Guess I should save it for Huff post or Facebook.[emoji39] Unfortunately my Engineering background forces me to look for root causes.

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  No harm no foul Dawn I could easily head there myself. I have to keep reign on my emotions on those subjects as I have some very strong feelings about certain volatile subjects that can only get me in trouble (and have) if I give voice to them here. Now I relegate them to my facebook page and annoy my nephew, his wife and several other relatives.

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   Laurie
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MaryT

Quote from: DawnOday on September 10, 2017, 05:08:33 PM


Right voted for Trump. Right wing is setting about taking peoples hard won rights away. I know the right has been on this path since Nixon. Left is for diversity, equality, LGBTQ, minorities. The right has swerved from it's Christian beliefs that all men are created equal. The left has not abandoned it's religious belief in favor of Charlatans and greed. Love thy neighbor as thyself,comes to mind. The right has taken up Nationalism. Left promotes diversity, job creation, workers rights, unions, tax reform that lowers the middle class tax burden and distributes it more fairly. Left is looking to keep the earth functioning right is looking for armageddon. So just where is the middle? I will not give up my liberal identity to promote hate groups, religious zealots as this was not the intent of the Founding Fathers.

It is sad about some parents shutting out the notion that their children just might turn out to be "different", and I approve of DawnOday's liberal sentiments, but I agree with Deborah that neither right nor left have a monopoly on virtue. 

In fact, I am always confused about who is right wing and who is left wing, especially in the US.  With my admittedly limited understanding of US history, it seemed to me that there were once four major parties in America, not two.  In the north were the fiercely capitalistic right wing Republicans, and the more socially concerned left wing Democrats.  In the south, there were the left wing Republicans who supported suffrage for black people, and the right wing Democrats who supported the Jim Crow laws.  And if nationalism is right wing and socialism is left wing, was the National Socialist leader Adolf Hitler a mixture of the two, and therefore a moderate?

I think that we tend to regard any politics we don't like as right wing, while we regard the politics we do like as either moderate or left wing.

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MaryT

Thanks, Dawn for the PM.  As a Visitor, I can't reply by PM yet, so I have to acknowledge it here.  I do applaud your compassionate and liberal views, and now I also know a bit more about modern US history, politics and current affairs.
Thanks again.

To add something on the subject of the school, I'll just mention that I don't understand how the parents could even be worried.  The transgender child who "came out" was a fait accompli and the other children would have been even more confused if the teacher hadn't tried to explain it to them in terms that they might understand.
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Dee Marshall

They're upset because they wanted to be warned in advance so that they could explain the situation their way. Their way is religious and false to fact. (Not that I think that those two necessarily go together.)

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April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!

Think outside the voice box!

April 22, 2015, the day of my first face to face pass in gender neutral clothes and no makeup. It may be months to the next one, but I'm good with that!

Being transgender is just a phase. It hardly ever starts before conception and always ends promptly at death.

They say the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train. I say, climb aboard!
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Stevi

I could be wrong, but, I seriously doubt that many of the parents who objected can truthfully say they read any substantial portion of either one of the books.  As I see it, their objection was that the teacher and school were ready to accommodate the transgender child's needs. Part of that accommodation was to head off the potential problems associated with the classmate's new experience by explaining what was going on.  The objecting parents, simply, did not want their children exposed to the transgender scourge in any way shape or form.  Instead of being taught how to deal with the new situation, the parents would have rather, I suppose, had their children bully and demean the transgender child.

Stephanie
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MaryT

After seeing a few TV documentaries in the last year or two, I thought "how lucky transgender children are today, to be accepted by their families and even allowed to go to school wearing the clothes of their true gender".

Clearly, though, even today, only a tiny minority of transgender children are accepted any more than they were half a century ago.  Even the ones that are accepted by their families and schools are not having such an easy time that they could be described as "lucky".
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staciM

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 10, 2017, 01:06:07 PM
Laurie, when our generation dies out, the world is going to be a better place. Kids nowadays don't give a rat's ass about gender or race, that's our issue.

Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Lady Sarah on September 10, 2017, 09:54:22 PM
That would depend on what type of people the parents are. I am aware of some that are open minded, and teach their children to think on their own, and not be haters. I also know of some that teach their children to be bigots before they are even old enough to attend school.


These I agree with.  The irony is that kids don't have a care in the world about gender and who wears what until they are poisoned by ignorant adults.  If these parents continue to "teach" in an uneducated way about our lifestyle,  nothing is going to change, and that thinking won't die out until the chain is broken. 

My concern is that the message gets thrown down everyone's throat and they get a real bad taste in their mouth about the politics.  Some that wouldn't have cared in the past, now are expressing subtle displeasure....which feeds back through the generations and it grows.  My feeling FWIW, is we need to tread lighter.
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