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Can one live as their target gender without passing?

Started by Nero, December 05, 2007, 12:58:46 AM

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SarahFaceDoom

Quote from: Rachael on December 12, 2007, 04:57:42 AM
im with nero... there are some like that... then theres those like me, that cant take a photo for fudge.... and pass really nicely and never get the wrong pronouns... only look like crap   camera :P


Yeah I don't photograph well.  I look better on video in motion.  Or at least I think  I do.  I have a hard time getting good photos because I'm so pale and I just have my camera phone and my apartment lighting.  I used to have photoshop which helped in adjusting the lighting.  But now I don't.  So it's hard to get picturers where I'm not so pale as to be featureless.
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Keira


Most time those that don't photograph just
don't know how to take a good photo.

Many model's are deathly white. Its lighting, proper lenses
distance, depth of field, and
proper makeup (and some post production)
that makes them look so good.
If you saw them on the street, they look as bland as can be.

If you look bland, maybe you wear the wrong color clothes.
If I wear white. My face looks like a vampire. But, if
I wear deep autumn colors, like orange, gold, aubergine, etc.
My golden beige skin tone just
pops out and I look much better.

If your skin is white with little pink, bright monochromatic
colors may be for you. There are plenty of sites which
determines your color pallette for your skin tone, eyes and hair.





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SarahFaceDoom

Quote from: Keira on December 13, 2007, 04:07:14 PM

Most time those that don't photograph just
don't know how to take a good photo.




Ha, you think.  I don't know if taking photos using my camera phone and aiming it blindly back at myself is the best way to get the best photo.  It's kind of a crap shoot.  I've never gone and gotten myself photographed by someone who knows what they are doing.  I did have a photographer come up to me at a festival and give me her card, wanting me to model for her.  But I chickened out.
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Rachael

I know i posted this in the bored topic, but after Fruity telling me i didnt pass, and looked like a teen boy. i wish to call an objection to the prosecution....
R :police:
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Sarah

Hmm,
12 pages of fury!
Yeah!
So, hmm, let me address the original post.
From my own perspective.

For me passing isn't an issue.
I don't mean by that that I was born looking like Kiera Knightly o f Tyra Banks.

I mean it doesn't matter to me what people see me as.

I still havn't had facial hair removal, (which is annoying) but I just don't care in some respects.
I'd rather people see me as I am and accept that, than try and wait for their acceptance ofter I have finished medical procedures.

The thing is, it seems to me that acceptance comes from within. Not without.
I accept myself, And so, less and less do I find myself caring what others think of me.
Sure it still happens, but I catch it more, and remind myself that "what others think of me is none of my business".
That's really my Mantra. And it's so true.

It's sorta like confidence and flirting: Ir you want to flirt with someone and you are showing yourself to be shy and timid, no one will be interested usually as a flirt target.
If you are confident, even if you fake it, you seem much more interesting too people.

The same applies here. It doesn't matter what I wear, if I walk in like I own the place, or at least just don't care what anyone thinks, that impresses people. I have gotten many comments about how impressed other people were with how I am not intimidated.
I even had a perfect stranger come up and ask to shake my hand on the outdoor mall a couple of weeks ago.
Courage impresses people. And makes a very strong positive impression.

I almost don't even think about it any more. It is of course always there, but not as an obstacle.
Does that make sense? Whether people accept me doesn't matter. I accept me.
-Sarah
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Nero

Quote from: Rachael on December 13, 2007, 07:53:38 PM
I know i posted this in the bored topic, but after Fruity telling me i didnt pass, and looked like a teen boy. i wish to call an objection to the prosecution....
R :police:

you look great. very soft. you really do look like a gg. even the chin and distance between nose and mouth are perfect. the overall build is right too.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Keira

I'm not so soft :-).
My build is so small its crazy, every woman I meet calls me thin and I eat 2200 calories a day (that's a LOT of calories), The way I'm going I'm going to wear size 4 tops and bottom within a year!! I just measured torso under the breast and I'm down to 30.5 inch!!! My chest muscles pre HRT were 40 (I was well built), now I'm 35.5 inch! (Size 6) and wear tight 34B or small C and some 32's fit!!!. This causes a lot of problem finding clothing cause my frame is petite even if I'm tall, clothing for petite is usually much shorter!! If I fall to 4T (tall, which is not stocked in stores really) I'm worried I'll find nothing to wear in any stores (even those geared towards tall women!). Anyway, just my worry about finding normal clothings soon.

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Sarah

Well as long as we are hijacking this thread for a photo album...


This was taken last Sunday for my friend Amanda's portraiture class
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Nero

Quote from: Sarah on December 13, 2007, 11:43:11 PM
Well as long as we are hijacking this thread for a photo album...


This was taken last Sunday for my friend Amanda's portraiture class

cute. love the red against your pale skin. dramatic effect.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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cindybc

Hi Rachael, well your A-1 in my books, I love your sense of humor as well as your looks. Wish I was 20 younger, well I may feel 20 years younger then I am but I'm afeared my looks don't agree with that. But I have a good knack at making people feel good and laugh, that 's my nature and it ain't never going to change now.

Cindy
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Doc

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cindybc

Hi Doc you can take the left shoulder and Rebis you take the right shoulder, problem solved.  ;D

Cindy
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Sarah

Aww,
wow, what do I say to that?
*curtsies*,*blushes*
Thank you!
^_^
-Sarah
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Rachael

i have ->-bleeped-<- dysphoria....
personally, i cant be happy, or live a normal life, till i pass completely, and nobody knows my past... im a girl, i dont want to live my life as a transexual to others... its almost as bad as being a boy...
But this is just for me.
R :police:
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Valentina

Quote from: Rachael on December 16, 2007, 09:01:03 AM
i have ->-bleeped-<- dysphoria....
personally, i cant be happy, or live a normal life, till i pass completely, and nobody knows my past... im a girl, i dont want to live my life as a transexual to others... its almost as bad as being a boy...
But this is just for me.
R :police:

I like your perspective.  It is far worse than being a boy.  How other peeps see me is important to be accepted as the gender I say I am.  To me peep's approval is as important as my own because I'm part of the world.  I live in it, work in it, evolve in it, etc.
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annajasmine

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Quote from: Steph on December 05, 2007, 08:46:49 PM
A person can live their life as anything they want to, the problem is that if you are not accepted what's the point, their lives will be sheer misery; not really a life at all.

Steph

I just started reading this topic I 'm at page 3 had to comment. Let me ask this question how of you were accepted as who you were before your transition or now. I'm not out yet and still look like a guy. I never been accepted  by a lot of people. Even a gay manager was trying get me come out the closet because he thought I was gay. I don't really plan being accepted afterward and it would be wonderful to go stealth and pass. It also good to have what i am on the inside somewhat match the outside. I am not doing this to pass or be accepted anyone but for myself. If I pass that would a great bonus. If I was worried about what others would think I stop what I'm doing.  (To had update this woke up worried about this so I deleted part of it. Worried that someone might do it. this was not advice was suppose to be example. )

AnnaJasmine

Why so much negativity lately on the board?

Posted on: December 16, 2007, 12:11:22 PM
UPDATE

I looked the mirror realize why I been losing so much weight because passing is important to me. But it is not the only thing. The other day I went to Wal-Mart saw women definitely not all of them were beautiful physically. Some were balding, other has mustaches, and some just looked different. What I'm saying don't judge yourself to harshly. 

Got to go I'm running late see ya later
Anna
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Steph

Okay here we go again...

STAY ON TOPIC OR RISK HAVING YOUR REPLIES DELETED WITHOUT WARNING.  THE TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED IS:

Can one live as their target gender without passing?

Steph
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Berliegh

Quote from: Rachael on December 16, 2007, 09:01:03 AM
i have ->-bleeped-<- dysphoria....
personally, i cant be happy, or live a normal life, till i pass completely, and nobody knows my past... im a girl, i dont want to live my life as a transexual to others... its almost as bad as being a boy...
But this is just for me.
R :police:

I totally agree with you Rachael and that is whole objective of a transition..

Posted on: December 16, 2007, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: Steph on December 16, 2007, 01:44:11 PM
Okay here we go again...

STAY ON TOPIC OR RISK HAVING YOUR REPLIES DELETED WITHOUT WARNING.  THE TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED IS:

Can one live as their target gender without passing?

Steph


you need to clarify who is off topic Steph, as I didn't see any posts in the thread that were off topic?
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Steph

Quote from: Berliegh
Quote from: Steph on December 16, 2007, 01:44:11 PM
Okay here we go again...

STAY ON TOPIC OR RISK HAVING YOUR REPLIES DELETED WITHOUT WARNING.  THE TOPIC BEING DISCUSSED IS:

Can one live as their target gender without passing?

Steph


you need to clarify who is off topic Steph, as I didn't see any posts in the thread that were off topic?

The topic is turning into a picture gallery.  That was not the intent of the question asked.

Steph
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