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Working out / Losing Weight / HRT

Started by ToriJo, September 11, 2017, 09:33:31 PM

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ToriJo

I'm probably going to be starting HRT within a month or so.

I've been losing weight at about 1/2 to 1 pound per week this year, and am near the recommended weight range for a male my age now (I could still stand to lose 10-20 pounds, and I'd love to lose a little more belly fat).  My workouts are walking 5 or so miles a day.

I'd like to continue this, but I'm worried that if I start doing HRT that it will keep me from developing in the areas I really want some development in - breasts and hips/butt.  I'm not worried about my legs looking too muscular or bulky.  I just want to have *some* natural breast too!

So, should I keep up the workouts?  I'd love to do that because I feel so much healthier than I did before I did this.
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Deborah

Yes, you should keep up the workouts if for no other reason than health.  You are correct that if your bodyfat and calories are too low the size of your breasts and other places will be smaller.  If this becomes an issue then the solution is easy.  Keep up the workouts for health and eat more food.

This is my experience.  My bodyfat is low now and my breasts are smaller than they would be if I were 20 pounds or so heavier.  However, my belly would be bigger also which is something I don't want.  Even at low bodyfat though they are still there and still noticeable so I'm happy with it.  If I ever change my mind gaining that 20 pounds back would only take about 10 weeks and I'd get back an inch and a half or two inches in no time.  But I'd also get back  couple of inches around the waist. >:(
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Thea

I'm in a similar situation to ToriJo. Through working out and diet, I've been able to loose the weight I wanted to and my waist is the size I want it.
When I start HRT I want body fat to accumulate on my hips and in my boobs but not my waist. I plan to eat more and go heavy on exercises that specifically target the waist.
I just wonder how much weight gain due to getting boobs should I expect? I realize it will vary according to the size they will turn out to be. I guess what I mean is how much more should I eat to give them their best chance?
(I hope that's not a dumb question)
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Charlie Nicki

Everyone is different so you'll have to wait and see what HRT does to you. In my case I also decided to lose weight before starting but once I started I kept losing pounds without trying to the point where I felt underweight and looked kinda sick. I'm trying to gain the weight back. So don't go too crazy with the diet and exercise until you know how your body will react to HRT.


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LexiDreamer

Eat more proteins and fats. Cut out the carbs (bread, pasta, sugar).

But don't skimp on the vegetables. You need those for essential nutrients and roughage.

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KayXo

Quote from: LexiDreamer on September 16, 2017, 03:21:04 AMBut don't skimp on the vegetables. You need those for essential nutrients and roughage.

Have to disagree about this as it's been shown Inuits and other populations thrived on just animal protein and fat without any vegetables. Veggies are not essential.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Deborah

Quote from: KayXo on September 17, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
Have to disagree about this as it's been shown Inuits and other populations thrived on just animal protein and fat without any vegetables. Veggies are not essential.
I agree with that with the caveat that to get essential nutrients one needs to steer away from lean meats and eat fatty cuts and organ meats like liver.  Eating lean meat only without vegetables  is a recipe for poor health.

In hunter gather cultures like the Inuit the dogs got the lean meat and the humans ate the rest.
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LexiDreamer

Quote from: KayXo on September 17, 2017, 10:00:54 AM
Have to disagree about this as it's been shown Inuits and other populations thrived on just animal protein and fat without any vegetables. Veggies are not essential.
Although the Inuit population's diet did consist of animal protein and fats, they mostly ate them raw.
Raw meat has a higher carbohydrate content than cooked meat.
This is why carnivorous animals can survive on all meat diets.

Furthermore, seals were the staple of their diet and provided much of their needed nutrients by eating not just the muscle, but also the raw liver and brains of these animals.

They were not eating cooked chickens, pigs and cows.

For obvious reasons, this diet is not suitable for most of us.

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KayXo

It was reported by one man who lived among the Inuits for several years that they actually gave the liver and all sweetbreads and most organ meats to the dogs, keeping the heart and kidneys for themselves and when shared amongst them, that wouldn't amount to much organ meat consumed.

Food was also boiled and roasted at times, and they actually admitted to preferring the taste of meat when it was cooked except for seal liver which was more savory eaten raw, if they happened to eat it, at all.

A study in the 1920's found that when on a cooked meat diet alone, just fat, no carbs, for one full year, the men did fine, experienced no shortcomings.

Many in the community of zero-carb eating have argued and testified that eating only muscle meat, even if cooked, as long as it's fatty and as long as enough salt is consumed, is sufficient.

I also doubt that veggies, at least those produced by agriculture today (in comparison to their wild counterparts), have that much to offer us anyways. I also don't believe fiber is necessary as fat alone helps things move through the intestines quite smoothly.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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Dani

Most all dietitians agree that for a modern western culture, that a balanced diet is best for many reasons. Eating only one food item from a totally different culture may have unwanted consequences.

My diet that helped me lose over 100 pounds is  50% fresh vegetables and 25% fresh fruit with the remainder made up of a little bit of lean meat, dairy and grains. I try to avoid processed foods as much as possible. I do not eat at a restaurant unless it is necessary and then I chose my meal to be the most natural one on the menu.
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KayXo

Quote from: Dani on September 18, 2017, 03:26:02 AM
Most all dietitians agree that for a modern western culture, that a balanced diet is best for many reasons.

Most of these dietitians also advise a very low amount of saturated fat relative to other fats and a greater carb consumption relative to fat. I wouldn't call that a balanced diet, especially considering that the studies to date do not justify those recommendations. What is advised these days is anything BUT balanced.
I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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